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This is one of the major groups that brought us forward.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYPNjSoDrqw>
 
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC+11, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
This is one of the major groups that brought us forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYPNjSoDrqw

BASIC was an advance? Anything I could do in that I could do better and faster in FORTRAN, (or assembler, for that matter).

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:99512f81-c9f0-4335-8c39-08c0f28581ff@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC+11,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
This is one of the major groups that brought us forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYPNjSoDrqw

BASIC was an advance? Anything I could do in that I could do
better and faster in FORTRAN, (or assembler, for that matter).

You are truly an idiot and obviously did NOT watch the video.
 
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 8:39:36 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC+11,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:



You are truly an idiot and obviously did NOT watch the video.

Thanks for posting that link. It refreshed my memory of the development of operating systems.

Do not pay any attension to Bill. He has a condition similar to turrets syndrome. He has to post something negative about nearly all posts.

Dan
 
"dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> wrote in
news:b26cc932-cf36-4cfc-a19e-52d98ace36b2@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 8:39:36 AM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:


On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC+11,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:



You are truly an idiot and obviously did NOT watch the video.

Thanks for posting that link. It refreshed my memory of the
development of operating systems.

Do not pay any attension to Bill. He has a condition similar to
turrets syndrome. He has to post something negative about nearly
all posts.

Dan

I like how he keeps saying "And they were all undergraduates."

Another cool refresher I watched was the one about Einstein's
brain.
 
On 2020/02/02 3:38 a.m., DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
This is one of the major groups that brought us forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYPNjSoDrqw

This story doesn't just honour a major group, but the man - Professor
John Kemeny - as the visionary who brought the concept forward of
getting computers into everyone's hands.

An amazing man, movies need to be made about his life and influence on
the world of computing.

John
 
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 5:59:32 AM UTC+11, dca...@krl.org wrote:
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 8:39:36 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:


On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC+11,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:



You are truly an idiot and obviously did NOT watch the video.

Thanks for posting that link. It refreshed my memory of the development of operating systems.

Do not pay any attention to Bill. He has a condition similar to turrets syndrome. He has to post something negative about nearly all posts.

This isn't accurate. I do post negative comments about defective posts - which are numerous, and Dan doesn't know enough to realise quite how many of them are defective (including his).

There is no "turrets syndrome". What he was probably thinking of was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourette_syndrome

It was kind of him to illustrate his unfortunate ignorance in his post. He also misspelled attention, but we all make minor mistakes.

--
Bil Sloman, Sydney
 
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 12:39:36 AM UTC+11, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:99512f81-c9f0-4335-8c39-08c0f28581ff@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC+11,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
This is one of the major groups that brought us forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYPNjSoDrqw

BASIC was an advance? Anything I could do in that I could do
better and faster in FORTRAN, (or assembler, for that matter).


You are truly an idiot and obviously did NOT watch the video.

BASIC wasn't any kind of advance. It was just a cut-down FORTRAN shrunk to run on really cheap, small computers.

Dartmouth did get in early on training undergraduates in programming, which was a good thing, but BASIC wasn't any kind of advance.

FORTH, LISP, PASCAL and Algol were designed around that time to be better computing languages than FORTRAN (which wasn't a particularly ambitious target).

The ideas from Algol and PASCAL showed up later in "C" which might qualify them as "advances".

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
mandag den 3. februar 2020 kl. 01.16.01 UTC+1 skrev Bill Sloman:
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 12:39:36 AM UTC+11, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:99512f81-c9f0-4335-8c39-08c0f28581ff@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC+11,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
This is one of the major groups that brought us forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYPNjSoDrqw

BASIC was an advance? Anything I could do in that I could do
better and faster in FORTRAN, (or assembler, for that matter).


You are truly an idiot and obviously did NOT watch the video.

BASIC wasn't any kind of advance. It was just a cut-down FORTRAN shrunk to run on really cheap, small computers.

Dartmouth did get in early on training undergraduates in programming, which was a good thing, but BASIC wasn't any kind of advance.

FORTH, LISP, PASCAL and Algol were designed around that time to be better computing languages than FORTRAN (which wasn't a particularly ambitious target).

The ideas from Algol and PASCAL showed up later in "C" which might qualify them as "advances".

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

https://youtu.be/seM9SqTsRG4
 
"dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> wrote in
news:28ed6cc1-0e62-4f90-9a63-325fcb81980d@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 7:01:40 PM UTC-5, Bill Sloman
wrote:
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 5:59:32 AM UTC+11, dca...@krl.org
wrote:
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 8:39:36 AM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:


On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC+11,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:



You are truly an idiot and obviously did NOT watch the
video.

Thanks for posting that link. It refreshed my memory of the
development of operating systems.

Do not pay any attention to Bill. He has a condition similar
to turrets syndrome. He has to post something negative about
nearly all posts.

This isn't accurate. I do post negative comments about defective
posts - which are numerous, and Dan doesn't know enough to
realise quite how many of them are defective (including his).

There is no "turrets syndrome". What he was probably thinking of
was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourette_syndrome

It was kind of him to illustrate his unfortunate ignorance in his
post. He also misspelled attention, but we all make minor
mistakes.

--
Bil Sloman, Sydney

Higher IQ, Better University, More Moneya

Dan

I think you got it right... turrets syndrome. He sits on Usenet in
one place (sed) and turns and fires off in all directions. Just like
a turret.

His projectiles are deformed and his barrel lacks rifling, a long
known improvement. His bearings are probably getting gummed up too.
Maybe a good thing. Used to be the guy one would see standing on a
soap box in the middle of an intersection, uninvited.
 
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 7:01:40 PM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 5:59:32 AM UTC+11, dca...@krl.org wrote:
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 8:39:36 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:


On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC+11,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:



You are truly an idiot and obviously did NOT watch the video.

Thanks for posting that link. It refreshed my memory of the development of operating systems.

Do not pay any attention to Bill. He has a condition similar to turrets syndrome. He has to post something negative about nearly all posts.

This isn't accurate. I do post negative comments about defective posts - which are numerous, and Dan doesn't know enough to realise quite how many of them are defective (including his).

There is no "turrets syndrome". What he was probably thinking of was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourette_syndrome

It was kind of him to illustrate his unfortunate ignorance in his post. He also misspelled attention, but we all make minor mistakes.

--
Bil Sloman, Sydney

Higher IQ, Better University, More Moneya

Dan
 
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 12:28:59 PM UTC+11, dca...@krl.org wrote:
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 7:01:40 PM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 5:59:32 AM UTC+11, dca...@krl.org wrote:
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 8:39:36 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:


On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC+11,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:



You are truly an idiot and obviously did NOT watch the video.

Thanks for posting that link. It refreshed my memory of the development of operating systems.

Do not pay any attention to Bill. He has a condition similar to turrets syndrome. He has to post something negative about nearly all posts.

This isn't accurate. I do post negative comments about defective posts - which are numerous, and Dan doesn't know enough to realise quite how many of them are defective (including his).

There is no "turrets syndrome". What he was probably thinking of was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourette_syndrome

It was kind of him to illustrate his unfortunate ignorance in his post. He also misspelled attention, but we all make minor mistakes.

Higher IQ, Better University, More Money.

Pity about Dan. He posts his delusions so we get to appreciate how far he falls short of being able to proceed from facts to reliable conclusions.

Sadly, he illustrates that scoring well enough on an IQ test to get into a high prestige university doesn't mean that you have enough sense to profit from the advantage that it might have given to somebody who could think straight.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:fe6de236-bb0d-43e8-
a0bc-d1c4812556c1@googlegroups.com:

> somebody who could think straight.

And yet you trickled through, an interloper to the entire human
condition.

Maybe one day you will get one thing right. Your demise.
 
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 4:46:32 PM UTC+11, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:fe6de236-bb0d-43e8-
a0bc-d1c4812556c1@googlegroups.com:

somebody who could think straight.

And yet you trickled through, an interloper to the entire human
condition.

Who stumbled on three patentable ideas. And picked a fourth one as patentable, but the guy who had edited the paper that had triggered that thought had got there first.

> Maybe one day you will get one thing right. Your demise.

AlwaysWrong back on form.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 12:05:12 AM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 12:28:59 PM UTC+11, dca...@krl.org wrote:
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 7:01:40 PM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 5:59:32 AM UTC+11, dca...@krl.org wrote:
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 8:39:36 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:


On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC+11,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:



You are truly an idiot and obviously did NOT watch the video.

Thanks for posting that link. It refreshed my memory of the development of operating systems.

Do not pay any attention to Bill. He has a condition similar to turrets syndrome. He has to post something negative about nearly all posts.

This isn't accurate. I do post negative comments about defective posts - which are numerous, and Dan doesn't know enough to realise quite how many of them are defective (including his).

There is no "turrets syndrome". What he was probably thinking of was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourette_syndrome

It was kind of him to illustrate his unfortunate ignorance in his post. He also misspelled attention, but we all make minor mistakes.

Higher IQ, Better University, More Money.

Pity about Dan. He posts his delusions so we get to appreciate how far he falls short of being able to proceed from facts to reliable conclusions.

Sadly, he illustrates that scoring well enough on an IQ test to get into a high prestige university doesn't mean that you have enough sense to profit from the advantage that it might have given to somebody who could think straight.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

If I do not have enough sense to profit , why do I have so much money?

Dan

Smarter , better university, richer
 
On 2/2/2020 5:38 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
This is one of the major groups that brought us forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYPNjSoDrqw

Yes, I think so. That was a very interesting video.

I remember time-sharing and BASIC as well as Super BASIC. My program
allowed me to design very small high voltage transformers in a few
seconds rather than hours. And other designs as well. That was in the
early 60s.

Note that BASIC still exists in many forms and is very useful for
solving problems quickly. Power Basic comes to mind. I think JL uses it
for several purposes, like for his stock parts inventory.
 
On 2020/02/03 5:13 p.m., Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 6:57:19 AM UTC+11, John S wrote:
On 2/2/2020 5:38 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
This is one of the major groups that brought us forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYPNjSoDrqw


Yes, I think so. That was a very interesting video.

I remember time-sharing and BASIC as well as Super BASIC. My program
allowed me to design very small high voltage transformers in a few
seconds rather than hours. And other designs as well. That was in the
early 60s.

Note that BASIC still exists in many forms and is very useful for
solving problems quickly. Power Basic comes to mind. I think JL uses it
for several purposes, like for his stock parts inventory.

And people think that climate change denial propaganda is worth propagating.

The fact that you can use BASIC and it it's variants to eventually do what you could do faster with a more appropriate language doesn't make a good choice.

DLUNU was claiming that the invention of BASIC represented some kind of advance. Teaching lots of undergraduates to program was a good idea, but that's it.

That's not unlike saying that teaching kids to read and write was a good
idea, but that's it. Probably just use reading and writing to record
cooking recipes - a waste of time!

It seems to me that allowing the average kid access to computers sparked
a major interest in these machines that would not have developed
anywhere near as fast.

In this matter I might fairly claim that you are the denier...(ducking)

John ;-#)#
 
On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 6:57:19 AM UTC+11, John S wrote:
On 2/2/2020 5:38 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
This is one of the major groups that brought us forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYPNjSoDrqw


Yes, I think so. That was a very interesting video.

I remember time-sharing and BASIC as well as Super BASIC. My program
allowed me to design very small high voltage transformers in a few
seconds rather than hours. And other designs as well. That was in the
early 60s.

Note that BASIC still exists in many forms and is very useful for
solving problems quickly. Power Basic comes to mind. I think JL uses it
for several purposes, like for his stock parts inventory.

And people think that climate change denial propaganda is worth propagating.

The fact that you can use BASIC and it it's variants to eventually do what you could do faster with a more appropriate language doesn't make a good choice.

DLUNU was claiming that the invention of BASIC represented some kind of advance. Teaching lots of undergraduates to program was a good idea, but that's it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 2:04:13 AM UTC+11, dca...@krl.org wrote:
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 12:05:12 AM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 12:28:59 PM UTC+11, dca...@krl.org wrote:
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 7:01:40 PM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 5:59:32 AM UTC+11, dca...@krl.org wrote:
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 8:39:36 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:


On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC+11,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:



You are truly an idiot and obviously did NOT watch the video.

Thanks for posting that link. It refreshed my memory of the development of operating systems.

Do not pay any attention to Bill. He has a condition similar to turrets syndrome. He has to post something negative about nearly all posts.

This isn't accurate. I do post negative comments about defective posts - which are numerous, and Dan doesn't know enough to realise quite how many of them are defective (including his).

There is no "turrets syndrome". What he was probably thinking of was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourette_syndrome

It was kind of him to illustrate his unfortunate ignorance in his post. He also misspelled attention, but we all make minor mistakes.

Higher IQ, Better University, More Money.

Pity about Dan. He posts his delusions so we get to appreciate how far he falls short of being able to proceed from facts to reliable conclusions.

Sadly, he illustrates that scoring well enough on an IQ test to get into a high prestige university doesn't mean that you have enough sense to profit from the advantage that it might have given to somebody who could think straight.

If I do not have enough sense to profit , why do I have so much money?

Since we don't know how much money you have, it is difficult to be impressed by your claim that you a lot.

The "profit" I was referring to was an intellectual one, which you've clearly missed out on.

> Smarter , better university, richer

But incapable of evidence-based reasoning, and apparently free of any clear idea of what might constitute evidence. Your opinion of your own intelligence is clearly optimistic, and your idea of your relative wealth could be equally flawed.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:b464839c-0d41-4452-83f3-1b02bf7e20ce@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 6:57:19 AM UTC+11, John S wrote:
On 2/2/2020 5:38 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
This is one of the major groups that brought us forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYPNjSoDrqw


Yes, I think so. That was a very interesting video.

I remember time-sharing and BASIC as well as Super BASIC. My
program allowed me to design very small high voltage transformers
in a few seconds rather than hours. And other designs as well.
That was in the early 60s.

Note that BASIC still exists in many forms and is very useful for
solving problems quickly. Power Basic comes to mind. I think JL
uses it for several purposes, like for his stock parts inventory.

And people think that climate change denial propaganda is worth
propagating.

The fact that you can use BASIC and it it's variants to eventually
do what you could do faster with a more appropriate language
doesn't make a good choice.

DLUNU was claiming that the invention of BASIC represented some
kind of advance. Teaching lots of undergraduates to program was a
good idea, but that's it.

No, idiot. I was relating to the fact that those men changed the
way mainframes and minis were utilized at colleges. Look at my topic
title, dumbass. DTSS. That is a different paradigm over batch
processed computing. Kind of like lean manufacturing.

I know you have to run off and google a couple things now...
 

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