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Jan Panteltje

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What more can I say: I lost yahoo now.
That virus searches Usenet for email addresses, and then sends
thousands of times that microft fix with the worm.
 
Jan Panteltje <panteltjeNSOAPM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<1064411674.535376@evisp-news-01.ops.asmr-01.energis-idc.net>...
What more can I say: I lost yahoo now.
That virus searches Usenet for email addresses, and then sends
thousands of times that microft fix with the worm.
Click to expand...
Hi,

I am also facing the same problem.Is there a fix to avoid this?

Regards,

Jaideep
 
Get your own domain name (register privately with no info about you
revealed) and email addresses in your private domain which you can easily
control. I did it a couple of years ago now and got an address for me and
one each for the family. Spam blocking software can be included, web mail
access is available, and you can switch ISP's at any time and be independent
of their spam-ridden email systems. Web hosting is also there if you need
it.

Got mine from www.mydoname.com and for about $20 per year, it's a steal.

"jaideep" <jaideep@sasken.com> wrote in message
news:c4312ee4.0309252242.2fa34638@posting.google.com...
Jan Panteltje <panteltjeNSOAPM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<1064411674.535376@evisp-news-01.ops.asmr-01.energis-idc.net>...
What more can I say: I lost yahoo now.
That virus searches Usenet for email addresses, and then sends
thousands of times that microft fix with the worm.

Hi,

I am also facing the same problem.Is there a fix to avoid this?

Regards,

Jaideep
Click to expand...
 
My fix was to stop forwarding my mail to my Verizon.com isp and redirect it
to my email-only account with nwlink.com. Verizon doesn't filter the junk.
My forwarding service mail.com doesn't filter the junk. NWlink.com filters
out the "microsoft patch" junk easily. Beautiful.

Some ISPs are on the ball.

"jaideep" <jaideep@sasken.com> wrote in message
news:c4312ee4.0309252242.2fa34638@posting.google.com...
Jan Panteltje <panteltjeNSOAPM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<1064411674.535376@evisp-news-01.ops.asmr-01.energis-idc.net>...
What more can I say: I lost yahoo now.
That virus searches Usenet for email addresses, and then sends
thousands of times that microft fix with the worm.

Hi,

I am also facing the same problem.Is there a fix to avoid this?

Regards,

Jaideep
Click to expand...
 
It's interesting you say this. I have my own domain name which I use
for private email but I would never post the email address on Usenet
(even with a NOSPAM thing in it). You can use filter software to put
things into different folders. For example, when registering on
various corporate web pages, I often use newly generated emails:

robert-analogdevices@mydomain.com
robert-xilinx@mydomain.com

When mail comes from those sites, it is placed into my folders "Analog
Devices" or "Xilinx". If I start getting spam on one, I know who sold
the database! And, it does a much better job at keeping my real email
address clean (which has been clean for almost four years now).

For usenet, you can see I signed up using a different email address on
Yahoo.

Jake



"Mark" <markp100@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3HUcb.124132$bo1.76644@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
Get your own domain name (register privately with no info about you
revealed) and email addresses in your private domain which you can easily
control. I did it a couple of years ago now and got an address for me and
one each for the family. Spam blocking software can be included, web mail
access is available, and you can switch ISP's at any time and be independent
of their spam-ridden email systems. Web hosting is also there if you need
it.
Click to expand...
 
jaideep wrote:
Jan Panteltje <panteltjeNSOAPM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<1064411674.535376@evisp-news-01.ops.asmr-01.energis-idc.net>...

What more can I say: I lost yahoo now.
That virus searches Usenet for email addresses, and then sends
thousands of times that microft fix with the worm.


Hi,

I am also facing the same problem.Is there a fix to avoid this?
Click to expand...
The normal fix is to replace your From email address with a munged or
fake one, something like mine. At least with Mozilla/Netscape, that is
easy to do; just create a new email account with a fake return address.
If you do that, you normally should include a brief message at the
bottom in your signature indicating that your email address is faked.

It is unfortunate that things have come to this.

--
My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).
 
the same with me, my inbox is pounded with bulk mail and i exceed storage in 20 min.
i lost my id too
Is there any soln to get away from this
ram
 
Hi,

e-mail address with own domain is the best. I used for the first
time. After I started to receive this "microsoft patch", I simply
blocked it.
Now I changed to yahoo, which recognizes this spam too.

/Vakaras/
 
On a sunny day (26 Sep 2003 14:00:52 -0700) it happened ramntn@yahoo.com (ram)
wrote in <61c2cc9d.0309261300.38798162@posting.google.com>:

the same with me, my inbox is pounded with bulk mail and i exceed storage in 20 min.
i lost my id too
Is there any soln to get away from this
ram

I found some sort of solution here:
Click to expand...
www.sneakemail.com
The way it works is that they create a random email address at their domain,
and you use that.
Then they forward it to your real email.
The sender does not get to see the real email address.
Once the spammers get hold of it, you simply generate a new random address.

I have it now on my website, for feedback, such a random address (for
feedback for open source software), and it seems to work (just testing).
Once they spam it, I will just generate a new one, and change the link.
Also I followed the advice of some person here, (thank you for the link, mm
they should have referral fees) and bought my own domain from
www.mydoname.com..
That site actually is using domainsbyproxy.com.
www.panteltje.com is up now (redirect).
Did cost me 25 $ for a year.
We will see how it goes from here, still need to print new cards (yahoo email
was on it).
Yahoo is still full within the hour...
Anyway its cool to have your own domain :)
JP
 
I have the same problem, and I use the "Message Rules" in Outlook Express,
it has at-least brought down the spam by 50%...as and when the mail arrives
look for the keywords in the subject or in the email address or in the from
line, and go on adding them. The action I've set for emails with these
specific keywords is to delete them from the server so that they are not
downloaded at all ( i use a pop3 mailbox). but it is a menace...and scares
me from posting on usenet...

--Neeraj


"jaideep" <jaideep@sasken.com> wrote in message
news:c4312ee4.0309252242.2fa34638@posting.google.com...
Jan Panteltje <panteltjeNSOAPM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<1064411674.535376@evisp-news-01.ops.asmr-01.energis-idc.net>...
What more can I say: I lost yahoo now.
That virus searches Usenet for email addresses, and then sends
thousands of times that microft fix with the worm.

Hi,

I am also facing the same problem.Is there a fix to avoid this?

Regards,

Jaideep
Click to expand...
 
Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (26 Sep 2003 14:00:52 -0700) it happened ramntn@yahoo.com (ram)
wrote in <61c2cc9d.0309261300.38798162@posting.google.com>:

the same with me, my inbox is pounded with bulk mail and i exceed storage in 20 min.
i lost my id too
Is there any soln to get away from this
ram

I found some sort of solution here:
www.sneakemail.com
The way it works is that they create a random email address at their domain,
and you use that.
Then they forward it to your real email.
The sender does not get to see the real email address.
Once the spammers get hold of it, you simply generate a new random address.

I have it now on my website, for feedback, such a random address (for
feedback for open source software), and it seems to work (just testing).
Once they spam it, I will just generate a new one, and change the link.
Also I followed the advice of some person here, (thank you for the link, mm
they should have referral fees) and bought my own domain from
www.mydoname.com..
That site actually is using domainsbyproxy.com.
www.panteltje.com is up now (redirect).
Did cost me 25 $ for a year.
We will see how it goes from here, still need to print new cards (yahoo email
was on it).
Yahoo is still full within the hour...
Anyway its cool to have your own domain :)
JP
Click to expand...
Let me tell you one downside of having your own domain. Unless you only
use a few addresses, the spammers will make up addresses that don't
exist. If you receive every possible address at that domain, you will
start getting email to all sorts of silly, made up addresses. To
prevent this you will need to either track the made up addresses and
toss them at the server, or you will need to toss everything by default
and just forward the addresses you are using. Also don't plan to keep
using the one address you are forwarding to from domainsbyproxy.com.

BTW, what is the point of printing cards at all if you have to change
your email address from time to time?

--

Rick "rickman" Collins

rick.collins@XYarius.com
Ignore the reply address. To email me use the above address with the XY
removed.

Arius - A Signal Processing Solutions Company
Specializing in DSP and FPGA design URL http://www.arius.com
4 King Ave 301-682-7772 Voice
Frederick, MD 21701-3110 301-682-7666 FAX
 
Jake Janovetz wrote:
It's interesting you say this. I have my own domain name which I use
for private email but I would never post the email address on Usenet
(even with a NOSPAM thing in it). You can use filter software to put
things into different folders. For example, when registering on
various corporate web pages, I often use newly generated emails:

robert-analogdevices@mydomain.com
robert-xilinx@mydomain.com

When mail comes from those sites, it is placed into my folders "Analog
Devices" or "Xilinx". If I start getting spam on one, I know who sold
the database! And, it does a much better job at keeping my real email
address clean (which has been clean for almost four years now).

For usenet, you can see I signed up using a different email address on
Yahoo.
Click to expand...
I do this as well. But I have found that vendors (including FPGA and
CAD vendors) are pretty good at playing dumb about using your email
address for spam. Every time I have given an email address to either
Xilinx or Altera, regardless of whether I ask to be included or excluded
from marketing materials (or even if the address is just given to
support), I have ended up getting one form of spam or another to that
address.

I have even had email addresses twisted and received CAD spam to them.
There is no rock.collins@arius.com, but I get email from a CAD rep and
no matter how much I complain to the rep firm or to their vendors, I
keep getting it.

When it comes to email spam, there is no honor among theives. Even when
you catch otherwise honest vendors at it, they don't stop.

--

Rick "rickman" Collins

rick.collins@XYarius.com
Ignore the reply address. To email me use the above address with the XY
removed.

Arius - A Signal Processing Solutions Company
Specializing in DSP and FPGA design URL http://www.arius.com
4 King Ave 301-682-7772 Voice
Frederick, MD 21701-3110 301-682-7666 FAX
 
I made the mistake of posting *one* article to this group by using my real
e-mail address. Now the Swen (news backwards) spam count is 1157.
Well, I must bear the consequences of my own stupidity.

For those building up filters, this is what I have used to build mine:
- The SUBJECT header is all capitals, as it usually is "Subject"
- The To header never contains your address (good safety rule)
- The size of the attached virus is 106,496 Bytes (also good safety rule)
If you want to be super-safe with false positives, you might even want
to take md5 sum from the attachment by using e.g. [1]
- The attachemt is executable, so the suffix is
.(asd|bat|chm|cmd|com|dll|exe|hlp|hta|js|jse|lnk|ocx|pif|scr|shb|shm|
shs|vb|vbe|vbs|vbx|vxd|wsf) (There might be some more)

And the obvious ones to be used in conjunction with the ones above:
- The body contains:
"September 2003, Cumulative Patch" or
"<BR><BR><BR>Undeliver(able|ed) (message|mail|to)"

[1] http://elonen.iki.fi/code/misc-notes/mpartinfo2hdr/

Hope these helps,

T.Rissa
tpr at doc ic ac uk

Neeraj Varma &lt;&gt; wrote:
I have the same problem, and I use the "Message Rules" in Outlook Express,
it has at-least brought down the spam by 50%...as and when the mail arrives
look for the keywords in the subject or in the email address or in the from
line, and go on adding them. The action I've set for emails with these
specific keywords is to delete them from the server so that they are not
downloaded at all ( i use a pop3 mailbox). but it is a menace...and scares
me from posting on usenet...
Click to expand...
 
On a sunny day (Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:59:02 -0400) it happened rickman
&lt;spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in &lt;3F783AA5.21FAAA7D@yahoo.com&gt;:

Let me tell you one downside of having your own domain. Unless you only
use a few addresses, the spammers will make up addresses that don't
exist. If you receive every possible address at that domain, you will
start getting email to all sorts of silly, made up addresses. To
prevent this you will need to either track the made up addresses and
toss them at the server, or you will need to toss everything by default
and just forward the addresses you are using. Also don't plan to keep
using the one address you are forwarding to from domainsbyproxy.com.

BTW, what is the point of printing cards at all if you have to change
your email address from time to time?
Last first, the www.panteltje.com is on the card:)
Click to expand...
The email link is on the webpage (transparent for the user) and is changed
to a new random one if spam gets in.
Then the email at proxy... is filtered so practically anything and everything
is shredded.
So this fixes 2 problems.
1 my cards are no made and need no change.
2 no more spam seen since the weekend.
3 my emails outgoing have the random address as Reply-To
problem solved.
Now who did it? :)
Greetings
JP
 
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