Wafer switches?

R

Ray Zorblade

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Hi all, being an amateur repair freak I derive great pleasure from repairing
my own items for pennies, deemed f**ked by experts or young people reading
from a fault chart over the phone, my latest quest is a shower, I have
traced the problem I think to a couple of switches which are of the type
behind a vinyl panel, the space is so limited behind that I am not sure what
type of switch is used or where to get a spare, the shower company as you
might guess have no current spare part and recommend buying another Ł180
shower. Can an any brains on here help out
Thanks
 
Huh! this group is for repairs and advice??
"john" <va3mmTAKEOUTTHIS@niagara.com> wrote in message
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Wrong News group Pal.

kip

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"Ray Zorblade" <unreal@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Huh! this group is for repairs and advice??
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Both, I'm not entirely sure what he's going on about, nothing wrong with
your post.
 
On 14-Nov-2003, "john" <va3mmTAKEOUTTHIS@niagara.com> wrote:

Wrong News group Pal.

kip

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, deemed f**ked by experts
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How is this the wrong newsgroup? The OP was asking about a switch, and
where he might be able to purchase one. who cares if the switch actually
went in a shower. the post was still pretty much on topic, since his
request has to do with electronics repair.
 
"Daniel L. Belton" <abuse@spam.gov> wrote in message
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On 14-Nov-2003, "john" <va3mmTAKEOUTTHIS@niagara.com> wrote:

Wrong News group Pal.

kip

--
, deemed f**ked by experts

How is this the wrong newsgroup? The OP was asking about a switch, and
where he might be able to purchase one. who cares if the switch actually
went in a shower. the post was still pretty much on topic, since his
request has to do with electronics repair.
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Ah ha, another hapless victim falls foul of the intricate netiquette of
electronics repair, he should have posted to sci.electronics.repair
includingshowercontrol, a simple but frequently made mistake
 
I think the OP might have been a bit more clear, or included more detail.
IIRC, he said the switch was in a *shower.* There's not any switches in any
shower with which I am familiar, but I don't make it a habit to peek into
other peoples bathrooms.... ;-)

jak

"Daniel L. Belton" <abuse@spam.gov> wrote in message
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On 14-Nov-2003, "john" <va3mmTAKEOUTTHIS@niagara.com> wrote:

Wrong News group Pal.

kip

--
, deemed f**ked by experts

How is this the wrong newsgroup? The OP was asking about a switch, and
where he might be able to purchase one. who cares if the switch actually
went in a shower. the post was still pretty much on topic, since his
request has to do with electronics repair.
Click to expand...
 
"jakdedert" <jdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:NwAtb.11517$oo.3379@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
I think the OP might have been a bit more clear, or included more detail.
IIRC, he said the switch was in a *shower.* There's not any switches in
any
shower with which I am familiar, but I don't make it a habit to peek into
other peoples bathrooms.... ;-)

jak
Click to expand...
All electric showers which outnumber mixer types by a ratio of 7x1 have at
least an off /on switch, a circuit board, an immersion heater and
thermostat, and they connect to a safety breaker which is a lot more stuff
than a kettle for instance
 
"Ray Zorblade" <xxxxx@xxxxxx.com> writes:

"jakdedert" <jdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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I think the OP might have been a bit more clear, or included more detail.
IIRC, he said the switch was in a *shower.* There's not any switches in
any
shower with which I am familiar, but I don't make it a habit to peek into
other peoples bathrooms.... ;-)

jak

All electric showers which outnumber mixer types by a ratio of 7x1 have at
least an off /on switch, a circuit board, an immersion heater and
thermostat, and they connect to a safety breaker which is a lot more stuff
than a kettle for instance
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Then you probably aren't familiar with the $11,000 Japanese toilet
that.... Well, let's just say it does just about everything. :)

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On 15-Nov-2003, "jakdedert" <jdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote:

I think the OP might have been a bit more clear, or included more detail.
IIRC, he said the switch was in a *shower.* There's not any switches in
any
shower with which I am familiar, but I don't make it a habit to peek into
other peoples bathrooms.... ;-)

jak

"Daniel L. Belton" <abuse@spam.gov> wrote in message
news:UYftb.30370$oC5.19386@clmboh1-nws5.columbus.rr.com...

On 14-Nov-2003, "john" <va3mmTAKEOUTTHIS@niagara.com> wrote:

Wrong News group Pal.

kip

--
, deemed f**ked by experts

How is this the wrong newsgroup? The OP was asking about a switch, and
where he might be able to purchase one. who cares if the switch
actually
went in a shower. the post was still pretty much on topic, since his
request has to do with electronics repair.
Click to expand...
I agree... The OP should have been more specific in what he was asking,
since it's next to impossible to help him given the information he supplied
 
"Daniel L. Belton" <abuse@spam.gov> wrote in message
news:UYftb.30370$oC5.19386@clmboh1-nws5.columbus.rr.com...
I agree... The OP should have been more specific in what he was asking,
since it's next to impossible to help him given the information he
supplied
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Ok I suppose what I am asking is where to obtain momentary switches no
thicker than a piece of card,I have seen the same arrangment on some alarm
panels and microwaves
Thanks
 
"Daniel L. Belton" <abuse@spam.gov> wrote in message
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On 15-Nov-2003, "jakdedert" <jdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote:

I think the OP might have been a bit more clear, or included more
detail.
IIRC, he said the switch was in a *shower.* There's not any switches in
any
shower with which I am familiar, but I don't make it a habit to peek
into
other peoples bathrooms.... ;-)

jak

"Daniel L. Belton" <abuse@spam.gov> wrote in message
news:UYftb.30370$oC5.19386@clmboh1-nws5.columbus.rr.com...

On 14-Nov-2003, "john" <va3mmTAKEOUTTHIS@niagara.com> wrote:

Wrong News group Pal.

kip

--
, deemed f**ked by experts

How is this the wrong newsgroup? The OP was asking about a switch,
and
where he might be able to purchase one. who cares if the switch
actually
went in a shower. the post was still pretty much on topic, since his
request has to do with electronics repair.

I agree... The OP should have been more specific in what he was asking,
since it's next to impossible to help him given the information he
supplied
Click to expand...

I've seen a shower with switches, it had an electronic temperature regulator
with buttons to set it and a numerical display.
 
"Ray Zorblade" <xxxxx@xxxxxx.com> wrote in message
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"Daniel L. Belton" <abuse@spam.gov> wrote in message
news:UYftb.30370$oC5.19386@clmboh1-nws5.columbus.rr.com...
I agree... The OP should have been more specific in what he was asking,
since it's next to impossible to help him given the information he
supplied

Ok I suppose what I am asking is where to obtain momentary switches no
thicker than a piece of card,I have seen the same arrangment on some alarm
panels and microwaves
Thanks
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Those are generally made as a one piece custom unit, your device may not use
one of those though, I've seen similar looking ones that had normal PCB
mounted switcheswith just a plastic pad over them, you'll have to take it
apart to find out. The problem may not be switches at all, if moisture got
in and bridged some of the contacts it may think a button is stuck down
causing others to not respond.
 
"Ray Zorblade" <xxxxx@xxxxxx.com> wrote in message
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"jakdedert" <jdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:NwAtb.11517$oo.3379@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
I think the OP might have been a bit more clear, or included more
detail.
IIRC, he said the switch was in a *shower.* There's not any switches in
any
shower with which I am familiar, but I don't make it a habit to peek
into
other peoples bathrooms.... ;-)

jak

All electric showers which outnumber mixer types by a ratio of 7x1 have at
least an off /on switch, a circuit board, an immersion heater and
thermostat, and they connect to a safety breaker which is a lot more stuff
than a kettle for instance

I assume that we're talking about a European convention. In the U.S., most
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common showers are completely mechanical in nature...two faucets, one
spout...turn one or the other faucet to regulate temperature and flow.
There are fancy temp regulators which rely on bimetallic strips to set
temperature like a thermostat. I suppose Bill Gates has an electronic
shower, but they are not common items, at least in my socio-economic strata.

jak

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"jakdedert" <jdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Ray Zorblade" <xxxxx@xxxxxx.com> wrote in message
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"jakdedert" <jdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:NwAtb.11517$oo.3379@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
I think the OP might have been a bit more clear, or included more
detail.
IIRC, he said the switch was in a *shower.* There's not any switches
in
any
shower with which I am familiar, but I don't make it a habit to peek
into
other peoples bathrooms.... ;-)

jak

All electric showers which outnumber mixer types by a ratio of 7x1 have
at
least an off /on switch, a circuit board, an immersion heater and
thermostat, and they connect to a safety breaker which is a lot more
stuff
than a kettle for instance

I assume that we're talking about a European convention. In the U.S.,
most
common showers are completely mechanical in nature...two faucets, one
spout...turn one or the other faucet to regulate temperature and flow.
There are fancy temp regulators which rely on bimetallic strips to set
temperature like a thermostat. I suppose Bill Gates has an electronic
shower, but they are not common items, at least in my socio-economic
strata.

jak




Here is where we have got mixed up, 7 out of ten showers in the UK are of
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the instant type requiring not hot water tank, they employ a 8>10.5 Kw
heater, have many fancy controls , temp memory, timer etc although they can
be expensive a basic unit can be ac little as Ł50 and they cost a fraction
of the price of a mixer type to use.
 
"paybal" <siht@tokjo.com> wrote in message
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"jakdedert" <jdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Ray Zorblade" <xxxxx@xxxxxx.com> wrote in message
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"jakdedert" <jdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:NwAtb.11517$oo.3379@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
I think the OP might have been a bit more clear, or included more
detail.
IIRC, he said the switch was in a *shower.* There's not any
switches
in
any
shower with which I am familiar, but I don't make it a habit to peek
into
other peoples bathrooms.... ;-)

jak

All electric showers which outnumber mixer types by a ratio of 7x1
have
at
least an off /on switch, a circuit board, an immersion heater and
thermostat, and they connect to a safety breaker which is a lot more
stuff
than a kettle for instance

I assume that we're talking about a European convention. In the U.S.,
most
common showers are completely mechanical in nature...two faucets, one
spout...turn one or the other faucet to regulate temperature and flow.
There are fancy temp regulators which rely on bimetallic strips to set
temperature like a thermostat. I suppose Bill Gates has an electronic
shower, but they are not common items, at least in my socio-economic
strata.

jak




Here is where we have got mixed up, 7 out of ten showers in the UK are of
the instant type requiring not hot water tank, they employ a 8>10.5 Kw
heater, have many fancy controls , temp memory, timer etc although they
can
be expensive a basic unit can be ac little as Ł50 and they cost a fraction
of the price of a mixer type to use.
Click to expand...
Although I've spent some time in the UK, I've never seen these...of course
it's been 20 years and I was living in Council Housing in North London...no
cutting edge technology there. On the continent I saw a lot of 'on demand'
water heaters, and a lot of water heaters which one had to crank up, and
wait until it got hot before use.

The convention here in the land of cheap energy is to have a unit which
constantly keeps 25-75 U.S. gallons of water hot and ready to use. Energy
is supplied either by electricity or natural gas. On-demand units are
available, but not common, by any means. More expensive/extensive systems
combine that system with the heating/cooling in the dwelling.

jak
 
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