W10 PC slower than 8MHz 286/W3.11FWG!

[Ian Field]

Originally W10 upgrade on W7 - that fell over after about a month.

A clean ground up install isn't much better...................

When W10 imploded - I couldn't repair, re-install or anything. The only cure
was to overwrite the HDD by installing Linux, then clear all that out and
start over with W10.

Pretty much every application starts off; "not responding", the HDD activity
light is busy almost all the time. The cursor frequently changes from an
arrow to a little blue circle, either way the response is usually hesitant -
if it gets around to moving at all.....................

It was tolerable when I was using freeAVG, someone told me that was the
cause of the problems and I should switch to Avira - I did that and now the
PC is pretty much unuseable.

When I tried to go back to AVG, the installation failed, so it looks like
I'm stuck with Avira.

Thanks for any help.

 

My system with W10 would freeze every other day or so. Once I removed Avira, it has not frozen. I am now using AVG with no issues. I'm not sure if Avira was the problem or it just exercised code that showed the problem. YMMV
Dan

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 27/07/2016 6:54 AM, Ian Field wrote:

Originally W10 upgrade on W7 - that fell over after about a month.

A clean ground up install isn't much better...................

When W10 imploded - I couldn't repair, re-install or anything. The only
cure was to overwrite the HDD by installing Linux, then clear all that
out and start over with W10.

Pretty much every application starts off; "not responding", the HDD
activity light is busy almost all the time. The cursor frequently
changes from an arrow to a little blue circle, either way the response
is usually hesitant - if it gets around to moving at
all.....................

It was tolerable when I was using freeAVG, someone told me that was the
cause of the problems and I should switch to Avira - I did that and now
the PC is pretty much unuseable.

When I tried to go back to AVG, the installation failed, so it looks
like I'm stuck with Avira.

Thanks for any help.

**Well, I've been using Windows 10 on a laptop since November 2015. It
is an i5 with 8GB RAM, a standard 1TB HDD. It boots in less than 30
seconds and responds MUCH faster than my desktop PC, which uses an old
i5 processor, 16GB RAM and a 256GB SSD, running Win7. So far, Windows 10
seems to be just fine. Stable, fast and slightly more cumbersome than
Win7, but I can get used to it.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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[Ian Field]

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:dvq16nFh0l6U1@mid.individual.net...

On 27/07/2016 6:54 AM, Ian Field wrote:
Originally W10 upgrade on W7 - that fell over after about a month.

A clean ground up install isn't much better...................

When W10 imploded - I couldn't repair, re-install or anything. The only
cure was to overwrite the HDD by installing Linux, then clear all that
out and start over with W10.

Pretty much every application starts off; "not responding", the HDD
activity light is busy almost all the time. The cursor frequently
changes from an arrow to a little blue circle, either way the response
is usually hesitant - if it gets around to moving at
all.....................

It was tolerable when I was using freeAVG, someone told me that was the
cause of the problems and I should switch to Avira - I did that and now
the PC is pretty much unuseable.

When I tried to go back to AVG, the installation failed, so it looks
like I'm stuck with Avira.

Thanks for any help.

**Well, I've been using Windows 10 on a laptop since November 2015. It is
an i5 with 8GB RAM, a standard 1TB HDD. It boots in less than 30 seconds
and responds MUCH faster than my desktop PC, which uses an old i5
processor, 16GB RAM and a 256GB SSD, running Win7. So far, Windows 10
seems to be just fine. Stable, fast and slightly more cumbersome than
Win7, but I can get used to it.

So far - I'm thinking bad caps in the PSU or a virus got in when I burned
the install disk .ISO

Starting over on a completely cleansed HDD didn't improve matters much, but
a dodgy PSU should've gone tits up by
now......................................

It had been getting progressively slower while I was using AVG - when I
switched to Avira; it became unuseable within a week.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 27/07/2016 7:22 AM, Ian Field wrote:

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:dvq16nFh0l6U1@mid.individual.net...
On 27/07/2016 6:54 AM, Ian Field wrote:
Originally W10 upgrade on W7 - that fell over after about a month.

A clean ground up install isn't much better...................

When W10 imploded - I couldn't repair, re-install or anything. The only
cure was to overwrite the HDD by installing Linux, then clear all that
out and start over with W10.

Pretty much every application starts off; "not responding", the HDD
activity light is busy almost all the time. The cursor frequently
changes from an arrow to a little blue circle, either way the response
is usually hesitant - if it gets around to moving at
all.....................

It was tolerable when I was using freeAVG, someone told me that was the
cause of the problems and I should switch to Avira - I did that and now
the PC is pretty much unuseable.

When I tried to go back to AVG, the installation failed, so it looks
like I'm stuck with Avira.

Thanks for any help.

**Well, I've been using Windows 10 on a laptop since November 2015. It
is an i5 with 8GB RAM, a standard 1TB HDD. It boots in less than 30
seconds and responds MUCH faster than my desktop PC, which uses an old
i5 processor, 16GB RAM and a 256GB SSD, running Win7. So far, Windows
10 seems to be just fine. Stable, fast and slightly more cumbersome
than Win7, but I can get used to it.

So far - I'm thinking bad caps in the PSU or a virus got in when I
burned the install disk .ISO

Starting over on a completely cleansed HDD didn't improve matters much,
but a dodgy PSU should've gone tits up by
now......................................

It had been getting progressively slower while I was using AVG - when I
switched to Avira; it became unuseable within a week.

**Last time my desktop started being flaky, I ignored it. Naturally, the
HDD was on it's last legs and I lost everything. I've since re-jigged
the system with the OS on the SSD and everything else is on one of those
premium HDDs.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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[isw]

In article <3wQlz.924111$CF.533121@fx41.am4>,
"Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:dvq16nFh0l6U1@mid.individual.net...
On 27/07/2016 6:54 AM, Ian Field wrote:
Originally W10 upgrade on W7 - that fell over after about a month.

A clean ground up install isn't much better...................

When W10 imploded - I couldn't repair, re-install or anything. The only
cure was to overwrite the HDD by installing Linux, then clear all that
out and start over with W10.

Pretty much every application starts off; "not responding", the HDD
activity light is busy almost all the time. The cursor frequently
changes from an arrow to a little blue circle, either way the response
is usually hesitant - if it gets around to moving at
all.....................

It was tolerable when I was using freeAVG, someone told me that was the
cause of the problems and I should switch to Avira - I did that and now
the PC is pretty much unuseable.

When I tried to go back to AVG, the installation failed, so it looks
like I'm stuck with Avira.

Thanks for any help.

**Well, I've been using Windows 10 on a laptop since November 2015. It is
an i5 with 8GB RAM, a standard 1TB HDD. It boots in less than 30 seconds
and responds MUCH faster than my desktop PC, which uses an old i5
processor, 16GB RAM and a 256GB SSD, running Win7. So far, Windows 10
seems to be just fine. Stable, fast and slightly more cumbersome than
Win7, but I can get used to it.

So far - I'm thinking bad caps in the PSU or a virus got in when I burned
the install disk .

If the caps are an issue, why wouldn't it have affected the Linux
install too?

Isaac

 

"If the caps are an issue, why wouldn't it have affected the Linux
install too? "

Hmm, years ago I had a Windows OS go bad. I stuck a Linux live disk in it and as it was booting I noticed it said "SOMETHING WICKED HAPPENED". But it did run after that. I am pretty sure it was bad caps.

The REAL problem comes when the bad caps cause the BIOS to get corrupted. Seen that a few times.

 

[Adrian Caspersz]

On 26/07/16 21:54, Ian Field wrote:

Originally W10 upgrade on W7 - that fell over after about a month.

A clean ground up install isn't much better...................

When I tried to go back to AVG, the installation failed, so it looks
like I'm stuck with Avira.

Windows is like that. The alternatives aren't.

Do you want to get on with work or play games?

--
Adrian C

 

[Wayne Chirnside]

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 08:48:05 +0100, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

On 26/07/16 21:54, Ian Field wrote:
Originally W10 upgrade on W7 - that fell over after about a month.

A clean ground up install isn't much better...................

When I tried to go back to AVG, the installation failed, so it looks
like I'm stuck with Avira.

Windows is like that. The alternatives aren't.

Do you want to get on with work or play games?

I started with Windows 3.1 -DOS 5 and played around with Slackware,
Knoppix then moved to a matured Mint.

I do not play games.

I do not miss the everyday hassle of keeping up with virus, Trojans and
maleware.

Looked at Win 95 and 98 and saw nothing but the same and more intrusive
EULA agreements.

I see the handwriting on the wall with MicroSlop going down in flames
shortly as they themselves move to Linux calling it Azure but they still
seek to own the consumer.

I cannot think of one single complaint of any of the GNU/Linux I used and
there have been many yet none so far has let me down nor been the endless
hassle MicroSlop was.

My very last encounter with Windows dual booting Linux left me infected
with a boot sector virus rendering one of the two hard drives useless,
care to guess what OS was on that one?

Unfortunately I'd lacked a jumper when I put that drive in so I'd
soldered it, so in the trash bin it went more hassle than it was worth.
It was a rather small drive so not a big deal.

Windows has not infected any machine I've owned in the last eighteen
years, oddly enough dating to the last time I had issues with any of my
systems.

Had Windows Ultimate on a used purchased drive, looked at it, dd if=/dev/
zero of=/dev/sda
clear it right up.
YMMV but I'd be skeptical.

 

[Ian Field]

<dansabrservices@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f1fcce65-c8f1-425a-8c58-f6c5b4bc3eba@googlegroups.com...

My system with W10 would freeze every other day or so. Once I removed
Avira, it has not frozen. I am now using AVG with no issues. I'm not
sure if Avira was the problem or it just exercised code that showed the
problem. YMMV
Dan

After having used Avira; the AVG installer failed so I had to continue using
Avira.

It looks like I'll have to cleanse the boot HDD soon - hopefully I can re
install AVG again after that.

 

[Ian Field]

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:dvq9j3Fj146U1@mid.individual.net...

On 27/07/2016 7:22 AM, Ian Field wrote:


"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:dvq16nFh0l6U1@mid.individual.net...
On 27/07/2016 6:54 AM, Ian Field wrote:
Originally W10 upgrade on W7 - that fell over after about a month.

A clean ground up install isn't much better...................

When W10 imploded - I couldn't repair, re-install or anything. The only
cure was to overwrite the HDD by installing Linux, then clear all that
out and start over with W10.

Pretty much every application starts off; "not responding", the HDD
activity light is busy almost all the time. The cursor frequently
changes from an arrow to a little blue circle, either way the response
is usually hesitant - if it gets around to moving at
all.....................

It was tolerable when I was using freeAVG, someone told me that was the
cause of the problems and I should switch to Avira - I did that and now
the PC is pretty much unuseable.

When I tried to go back to AVG, the installation failed, so it looks
like I'm stuck with Avira.

Thanks for any help.

**Well, I've been using Windows 10 on a laptop since November 2015. It
is an i5 with 8GB RAM, a standard 1TB HDD. It boots in less than 30
seconds and responds MUCH faster than my desktop PC, which uses an old
i5 processor, 16GB RAM and a 256GB SSD, running Win7. So far, Windows
10 seems to be just fine. Stable, fast and slightly more cumbersome
than Win7, but I can get used to it.

So far - I'm thinking bad caps in the PSU or a virus got in when I
burned the install disk .ISO

Starting over on a completely cleansed HDD didn't improve matters much,
but a dodgy PSU should've gone tits up by
now......................................

It had been getting progressively slower while I was using AVG - when I
switched to Avira; it became unuseable within a week.

**Last time my desktop started being flaky, I ignored it. Naturally, the
HDD was on it's last legs and I lost everything. I've since re-jigged the
system with the OS on the SSD and everything else is on one of those
premium HDDs.

There's a small stack of HDDs next to the PC - I can't remember for certain
whether the original got swapped out, but I think it did.

The boot disk is only that - everything else is on other drives.

WLM and the program files folder default to C:\ so I have to back up email
stuff and a major crash means I have to re install all the apps.

To a large extent it makes flaky drives and contaminated system easier to
tell apart.

 

[Ian Field]

"isw" <isw@witzend.com> wrote in message
news:isw-B3F018.20242426072016@news-roam.garlic.com...

In article <3wQlz.924111$CF.533121@fx41.am4>,
"Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:dvq16nFh0l6U1@mid.individual.net...
On 27/07/2016 6:54 AM, Ian Field wrote:
Originally W10 upgrade on W7 - that fell over after about a month.

A clean ground up install isn't much better...................

When W10 imploded - I couldn't repair, re-install or anything. The
only
cure was to overwrite the HDD by installing Linux, then clear all that
out and start over with W10.

Pretty much every application starts off; "not responding", the HDD
activity light is busy almost all the time. The cursor frequently
changes from an arrow to a little blue circle, either way the response
is usually hesitant - if it gets around to moving at
all.....................

It was tolerable when I was using freeAVG, someone told me that was
the
cause of the problems and I should switch to Avira - I did that and
now
the PC is pretty much unuseable.

When I tried to go back to AVG, the installation failed, so it looks
like I'm stuck with Avira.

Thanks for any help.

**Well, I've been using Windows 10 on a laptop since November 2015. It
is
an i5 with 8GB RAM, a standard 1TB HDD. It boots in less than 30
seconds
and responds MUCH faster than my desktop PC, which uses an old i5
processor, 16GB RAM and a 256GB SSD, running Win7. So far, Windows 10
seems to be just fine. Stable, fast and slightly more cumbersome than
Win7, but I can get used to it.

So far - I'm thinking bad caps in the PSU or a virus got in when I burned
the install disk .

If the caps are an issue, why wouldn't it have affected the Linux
install too?

The only thing I used Linux for; was to overwrite the tangled wreckage W10
left all over the HDD.

All the crap from M$ is pushing me ever closer to actually using Linux when
I have to do that to recover the drive.

 

[Ian Field]

"Wayne Chirnside" <wc@faux.com> wrote in message
news:wA1mz.13725$E07.854@fx07.iad...

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 08:48:05 +0100, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

On 26/07/16 21:54, Ian Field wrote:
Originally W10 upgrade on W7 - that fell over after about a month.

A clean ground up install isn't much better...................

When I tried to go back to AVG, the installation failed, so it looks
like I'm stuck with Avira.

Windows is like that. The alternatives aren't.

Do you want to get on with work or play games?

I started with Windows 3.1 -DOS 5 and played around with Slackware,
Knoppix then moved to a matured Mint.

The Mint distro I used to clean the W10 wreckage off the HDD, required an
internet connection - I need something I can practice on that will install
on my isolated PC.

 

[Wayne Chirnside]

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:11:07 +0100, Ian Field wrote:

"Wayne Chirnside" <wc@faux.com> wrote in message
news:wA1mz.13725$E07.854@fx07.iad...
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 08:48:05 +0100, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

On 26/07/16 21:54, Ian Field wrote:
Originally W10 upgrade on W7 - that fell over after about a month.

A clean ground up install isn't much better...................

When I tried to go back to AVG, the installation failed, so it looks
like I'm stuck with Avira.

Windows is like that. The alternatives aren't.

Do you want to get on with work or play games?

I started with Windows 3.1 -DOS 5 and played around with Slackware,
Knoppix then moved to a matured Mint.

The Mint distro I used to clean the W10 wreckage off the HDD, required
an internet connection - I need something I can practice on that will
install on my isolated PC.

It WILL install without an internet connect.
An internet connection is merely preferred.

 

[Ian Field]

"Wayne Chirnside" <faux@notthere.com> wrote in message
newsj7mz.29219$7L2.10690@fx19.iad...

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:11:07 +0100, Ian Field wrote:

"Wayne Chirnside" <wc@faux.com> wrote in message
news:wA1mz.13725$E07.854@fx07.iad...
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 08:48:05 +0100, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

On 26/07/16 21:54, Ian Field wrote:
Originally W10 upgrade on W7 - that fell over after about a month.

A clean ground up install isn't much better...................

When I tried to go back to AVG, the installation failed, so it looks
like I'm stuck with Avira.

Windows is like that. The alternatives aren't.

Do you want to get on with work or play games?

I started with Windows 3.1 -DOS 5 and played around with Slackware,
Knoppix then moved to a matured Mint.

The Mint distro I used to clean the W10 wreckage off the HDD, required
an internet connection - I need something I can practice on that will
install on my isolated PC.

It WILL install without an internet connect.
An internet connection is merely preferred.

 

[Ian Field]

"Wayne Chirnside" <faux@notthere.com> wrote in message
newsj7mz.29219$7L2.10690@fx19.iad...

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:11:07 +0100, Ian Field wrote:

"Wayne Chirnside" <wc@faux.com> wrote in message
news:wA1mz.13725$E07.854@fx07.iad...
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 08:48:05 +0100, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

On 26/07/16 21:54, Ian Field wrote:
Originally W10 upgrade on W7 - that fell over after about a month.

A clean ground up install isn't much better...................

When I tried to go back to AVG, the installation failed, so it looks
like I'm stuck with Avira.

Windows is like that. The alternatives aren't.

Do you want to get on with work or play games?

I started with Windows 3.1 -DOS 5 and played around with Slackware,
Knoppix then moved to a matured Mint.

The Mint distro I used to clean the W10 wreckage off the HDD, required
an internet connection - I need something I can practice on that will
install on my isolated PC.

It WILL install without an internet connect.
An internet connection is merely preferred.

I assumed a virus problem and pulled the power jack out of the router during
install - Mint refused to proceed until I plugged it back in.

The system requirements bit was very pictorial - the box that said;
"internet connection" was greyed out until I powered the router up.