Voltage from a plugpack measured with no load

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I have a no-brand plugpack that is labeled "output 9V DC".
If I try to measure the voltage using a DMM, I get a value of 14odd volts.
I believe trying to read the output voltage of such a device without load
gives unreliable results.
Is this so?
If so, how can I check the output voltage on this plugpack?
 
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I have a no-brand plugpack that is labeled "output 9V DC".
If I try to measure the voltage using a DMM, I get a value of 14odd volts.
I believe trying to read the output voltage of such a device without load
gives unreliable results.
Is this so?
If so, how can I check the output voltage on this plugpack?
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What is the current rating for the plug pack?

Load the plug pack with say 50%, 75% of the rated current output and see
what the voltage supplied is.

If you dont have power resistors for a load try using automotive globes.
 
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I have a no-brand plugpack that is labeled "output 9V DC".
If I try to measure the voltage using a DMM, I get a value of 14odd
volts.
I believe trying to read the output voltage of such a device without load
gives unreliable results.
Is this so?
If so, how can I check the output voltage on this plugpack?


What is the current rating for the plug pack?

Load the plug pack with say 50%, 75% of the rated current output and see
what the voltage supplied is.

If you dont have power resistors for a load try using automotive globes.

That was quick! Thank you.
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The plugpack is labeled 9Volt DC 1 Amp. It is from an old Casio music
keyboard.
I will hunt around for a suitable globe.
 
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I have a no-brand plugpack that is labeled "output 9V DC".
If I try to measure the voltage using a DMM, I get a value of 14odd
volts.
I believe trying to read the output voltage of such a device without
load gives unreliable results.
Is this so?
If so, how can I check the output voltage on this plugpack?


What is the current rating for the plug pack?

Load the plug pack with say 50%, 75% of the rated current output and see
what the voltage supplied is.

If you dont have power resistors for a load try using automotive globes.

That was quick! Thank you.
The plugpack is labeled 9Volt DC 1 Amp. It is from an old Casio music
keyboard.
I will hunt around for a suitable globe.
Click to expand...
Perhaps more importantly, what load did you want to run off the plug pack?
How much will it draw?
 
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I have a no-brand plugpack that is labeled "output 9V DC".
If I try to measure the voltage using a DMM, I get a value of 14odd
volts.
I believe trying to read the output voltage of such a device without
load gives unreliable results.
Is this so?
If so, how can I check the output voltage on this plugpack?


What is the current rating for the plug pack?

Load the plug pack with say 50%, 75% of the rated current output and see
what the voltage supplied is.

If you dont have power resistors for a load try using automotive globes.

That was quick! Thank you.
The plugpack is labeled 9Volt DC 1 Amp. It is from an old Casio music
keyboard.
I will hunt around for a suitable globe.


Perhaps more importantly, what load did you want to run off the plug pack?
How much will it draw?
I don't know. The keyboard must be twenty years old, and I was asked to look
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at it by the organist at the church. The keyboard had died and at first
sight it looked as if the plugpack was dead. A closer look revealed that the
coaxial plug that plugs into the keyboard had pulled out of the two-pin
connector on the end of the cable from the plugpack. It wasn't easy to see
because the join was covered in heat-shrink. It was hard to see which way
the co-ax plug had been connected to the cable, and I assumed that the
centre connector was the positive and the outer was the negative. That is
when I used the DMM, to check the polarity. And that is when I became a bit
worried about the high voltage reading. I'm still looking for a globe.
I guess the correct answer to your question(s) is I will be running whatever
load was being required of it before.
 
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I have a no-brand plugpack that is labeled "output 9V DC".
If I try to measure the voltage using a DMM, I get a value of 14odd
volts.
I believe trying to read the output voltage of such a device without
load gives unreliable results.
Is this so?
If so, how can I check the output voltage on this plugpack?


What is the current rating for the plug pack?

Load the plug pack with say 50%, 75% of the rated current output and
see what the voltage supplied is.

If you dont have power resistors for a load try using automotive
globes.

That was quick! Thank you.
The plugpack is labeled 9Volt DC 1 Amp. It is from an old Casio music
keyboard.
I will hunt around for a suitable globe.


Perhaps more importantly, what load did you want to run off the plug
pack?
How much will it draw?
I don't know. The keyboard must be twenty years old, and I was asked to
look at it by the organist at the church. The keyboard had died and at
first sight it looked as if the plugpack was dead. A closer look revealed
that the coaxial plug that plugs into the keyboard had pulled out of the
two-pin connector on the end of the cable from the plugpack. It wasn't
easy to see because the join was covered in heat-shrink. It was hard to
see which way the co-ax plug had been connected to the cable, and I
assumed that the centre connector was the positive and the outer was the
negative. That is when I used the DMM, to check the polarity. And that is
when I became a bit worried about the high voltage reading. I'm still
looking for a globe.
I guess the correct answer to your question(s) is I will be running
whatever load was being required of it before.
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I'd be confident the plug pack is ok and wouldn't worry about testing with a
globe.

Centre positive is common but not always the case, I'd suggest opening up
the keyboard and working out what the polarity should be, perhaps there is a
protection diode off the power connector that would indicate polarity -
otherwise look for filter capacitors or a voltage regulator.

Perhaps look for dry joints / cracking where the power connector is soldered
to the PCB.
 
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I have a no-brand plugpack that is labeled "output 9V DC".
If I try to measure the voltage using a DMM, I get a value of 14odd
volts.
I believe trying to read the output voltage of such a device without
load gives unreliable results.
Is this so?
If so, how can I check the output voltage on this plugpack?


What is the current rating for the plug pack?

Load the plug pack with say 50%, 75% of the rated current output and see
what the voltage supplied is.

If you dont have power resistors for a load try using automotive globes.

That was quick! Thank you.
The plugpack is labeled 9Volt DC 1 Amp. It is from an old Casio music
keyboard.
I will hunt around for a suitable globe.


Perhaps more importantly, what load did you want to run off the plug pack?
How much will it draw?
I don't know. The keyboard must be twenty years old, and I was asked to look
at it by the organist at the church. The keyboard had died and at first
sight it looked as if the plugpack was dead. A closer look revealed that the
coaxial plug that plugs into the keyboard had pulled out of the two-pin
connector on the end of the cable from the plugpack. It wasn't easy to see
because the join was covered in heat-shrink. It was hard to see which way
the co-ax plug had been connected to the cable, and I assumed that the
centre connector was the positive and the outer was the negative. That is
when I used the DMM, to check the polarity. And that is when I became a bit
worried about the high voltage reading. I'm still looking for a globe.
I guess the correct answer to your question(s) is I will be running whatever
load was being required of it before.


I would check the input for possible voltage and resistance , it might
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have electros in there or a diode which should offer a clue as to polarity

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I have a no-brand plugpack that is labeled "output 9V DC".
If I try to measure the voltage using a DMM, I get a value of 14odd
volts.
I believe trying to read the output voltage of such a device without
load gives unreliable results.
Is this so?
If so, how can I check the output voltage on this plugpack?


What is the current rating for the plug pack?

Load the plug pack with say 50%, 75% of the rated current output and
see
what the voltage supplied is.

If you dont have power resistors for a load try using automotive
globes.

That was quick! Thank you.
The plugpack is labeled 9Volt DC 1 Amp. It is from an old Casio music
keyboard.
I will hunt around for a suitable globe.


Perhaps more importantly, what load did you want to run off the plug
pack?
How much will it draw?
I don't know. The keyboard must be twenty years old, and I was asked to
look
at it by the organist at the church. The keyboard had died and at first
sight it looked as if the plugpack was dead. A closer look revealed that
the
coaxial plug that plugs into the keyboard had pulled out of the two-pin
connector on the end of the cable from the plugpack. It wasn't easy to
see
because the join was covered in heat-shrink. It was hard to see which way
the co-ax plug had been connected to the cable, and I assumed that the
centre connector was the positive and the outer was the negative. That is
when I used the DMM, to check the polarity. And that is when I became a
bit
worried about the high voltage reading. I'm still looking for a globe.
I guess the correct answer to your question(s) is I will be running
whatever
load was being required of it before.


I would check the input for possible voltage and resistance , it might
have electros in there or a diode which should offer a clue as to polarity

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All is well. With a taillight globe the voltage read about 9V.
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I was wrong about the polarity. Centre pin is negative and the outer
connector is positive.
Thanks again for your help.
>
 
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I have a no-brand plugpack that is labeled "output 9V DC".
If I try to measure the voltage using a DMM, I get a value of 14odd
volts.
I believe trying to read the output voltage of such a device without
load gives unreliable results.
Is this so?
If so, how can I check the output voltage on this plugpack?


What is the current rating for the plug pack?

Load the plug pack with say 50%, 75% of the rated current output and see
what the voltage supplied is.

If you dont have power resistors for a load try using automotive globes.

That was quick! Thank you.
The plugpack is labeled 9Volt DC 1 Amp. It is from an old Casio music
keyboard.
I will hunt around for a suitable globe.


Perhaps more importantly, what load did you want to run off the plug pack?
How much will it draw?
I don't know. The keyboard must be twenty years old, and I was asked to look
at it by the organist at the church. The keyboard had died and at first
sight it looked as if the plugpack was dead. A closer look revealed that the
coaxial plug that plugs into the keyboard had pulled out of the two-pin
connector on the end of the cable from the plugpack. It wasn't easy to see
because the join was covered in heat-shrink. It was hard to see which way
the co-ax plug had been connected to the cable, and I assumed that the
centre connector was the positive and the outer was the negative. That is
when I used the DMM, to check the polarity. And that is when I became a bit
worried about the high voltage reading. I'm still looking for a globe.
I guess the correct answer to your question(s) is I will be running whatever
load was being required of it before.
Click to expand...
Lot of problems I've noticed with DC plugpacks are dried out electrolitic capacitors. Affected plugpacks show reasonable valuevoltage under no load but at normal operation produce excessive ripple that affect powered circuit. I observed a lot of that with modems, routers and other stuff with microprocessors.

I guess the best test to find out if the plugpack or the keyboard is faulty is to get another 9-12 V known good power supply and power the keyboard from that.

Tom
 
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I have a no-brand plugpack that is labeled "output 9V DC".
If I try to measure the voltage using a DMM, I get a value of 14odd
volts.
I believe trying to read the output voltage of such a device without
load gives unreliable results.
Is this so?
If so, how can I check the output voltage on this plugpack?


What is the current rating for the plug pack?

Load the plug pack with say 50%, 75% of the rated current output and
see what the voltage supplied is.

If you dont have power resistors for a load try using automotive
globes.

That was quick! Thank you.
The plugpack is labeled 9Volt DC 1 Amp. It is from an old Casio music
keyboard. I will hunt around for a suitable globe.
Click to expand...
Oddly enough I have one of these in my Daughters old toy box. It is
marked as you say 9V 1A. The manufacturer is "Niko" who ever they
are ! Off load it measures 14.52 volts, into a 15 ohm resistor load it
drops nicely to 9.15 volts.

HTH.

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