VHS TAPE to DVD How to

[John G]

Briefly what equipment and S/W is required to copy VHS tape to CD/DVD.

Second. what are the location code (?) implications of DVDs made on a
PC here to play in, say, the UK?

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John G

 

[Fred Nurk]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:12:15 +1000, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au>
wrote:

Briefly what equipment and S/W is required to copy VHS tape to CD/DVD.

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Second. what are the location code (?) implications of DVDs made on a
PC here to play in, say, the UK?

 

[Jordan]

On 16/07/12 10:12, John G wrote:

Briefly what equipment and S/W is required to copy VHS tape to CD/DVD.

Second. what are the location code (?) implications of DVDs made on a
PC here to play in, say, the UK?

I have one like this that works well:
<http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EZCap-Easycap-DC60-USB-2-0-VHS-DVD-Converter-Card-Adapter-VIDEO-CAPTURE-CARD-/110914868612?pt=AU_Components&hash=item19d30a9584>

As to your other question, as far as I know any recently made DVD player
will handle any region disc. Recent = say 5 years or younger.

 

[Rod Speed]

John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote

Briefly what equipment and S/W is required to copy VHS tape to CD/DVD.

There are a variety of ways of doing it equipment wise.

There are some dongles that you can get for not much money
that you can feed the output of the VCR into that will do it too.

You can also use an analog capture card and do it that way too.

Some video cameras do have a composite input and
you can feed that from the VCR into the video camera
and from there into the PC and write it to a CD/DVD.

Second. what are the location code (?) implications
of DVDs made on a PC here to play in, say, the UK?

None if you know what you are doing. Just make them region free.

 

[Petzl]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:12:15 +1000, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au>
wrote:

Briefly what equipment and S/W is required to copy VHS tape to CD/DVD.

Second. what are the location code (?) implications of DVDs made on a
PC here to play in, say, the UK?

If your computer is WIN7 it has a DVD maker (regionless DVD)

Does your computer have RCA input jacks?

If not you will need a "USB to RCA" from Dick Smith or EBAY
This one $20 from Ebay including postage
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The full Ebay search
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[John G]

John G brought next idea :

Briefly what equipment and S/W is required to copy VHS tape to CD/DVD.

Second. what are the location code (?) implications of DVDs made on a PC
here to play in, say, the UK?

Thanks for the replies I did some looking ) while waiting and got
similar answers.
I know, I should have just looked myself.

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John G

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2012-07-16, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

Briefly what equipment and S/W is required to copy VHS tape to CD/DVD.

a VHS player and DVD recorder.

on a pc it can probably be done using a video capture card and the bundled
software, or free stuff like ffmpeg.

Second. what are the location code (?) implications of DVDs made on a
PC here to play in, say, the UK?

AIUI Typically they are uncoded, and will play in any location.
special "authoring" media is needed for recording regoion coded DVDs as the
CSS keys are recorded in the lead-in area of the disc..

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[Rod Speed]

asdf <asdf@nospam.com> wrote

John G wrote

Briefly what equipment and S/W is required to copy VHS tape to CD/DVD.

Second. what are the location code (?) implications of DVDs made on a PC
here to play in, say, the UK?

Any PC with video a capture card will do. Most decent quality TV cards
have
a fairly good analog video input which would exceed the VHS capabilities.

Not anymore, fuck all do anymore.

I would encode the videos as H264 files then burn the CD/DVD as data
ones. Most (all) DVD video players will play them without problems
anyway, files will be smaller and easily moveable between storage media.

Keep in mind that burned CD and DVD media have a much shorter life
span than the ones you buy: in 2 to 5 years most DVDs lose their content,
regardless of how they were kept (speaking from actual experience).

Oh bullshit.

If you choose the DVD media anyway, take a look at new
developments such as the M-Disc, or backup your DVDs often.

 

[asdf]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:12:15 +1000, John G wrote:

Briefly what equipment and S/W is required to copy VHS tape to CD/DVD.

Second. what are the location code (?) implications of DVDs made on a PC
here to play in, say, the UK?

Any PC with video a capture card will do. Most decent quality TV cards
have a fairly good analog video input which would exceed the VHS
capabilities.
I would encode the videos as H264 files then burn the CD/DVD as data
ones. Most (all) DVD video players will play them without problems
anyway, files will be smaller and easily moveable between storage media.

Keep in mind that burned CD and DVD media have a much shorter life span
than the ones you buy: in 2 to 5 years most DVDs lose their content,
regardless of how they were kept (speaking from actual experience).
If you choose the DVD media anyway, take a look at new developments such
as the M-Disc, or backup your DVDs often.

 

[Rod Speed]

"asdf" <asdf@nospam.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:44:07 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Any PC with video a capture card will do. Most decent quality TV cards
have
a fairly good analog video input which would exceed the VHS
capabilities.

Not anymore, fuck all do anymore.

Look for Easycap then, a dirt cheap USB dongle. We're talking about VHS,
the OP won't need HD or stuff like that, just a clean video input plus a
decent software to do some motion correction and filtering which will
help compression a lot.

Keep in mind that burned CD and DVD media have a much shorter life span
than the ones you buy: in 2 to 5 years most DVDs lose their content,
regardless of how they were kept (speaking from actual experience).

Oh bullshit.

I wish it was bullshit, unfortunately it is not.

Its bullshit. That hasn’t happened with any of the DVDs I have burnt.

 

[Swampfox]

On 16/07/2012 11:17 AM, Jordan wrote:

On 16/07/12 10:12, John G wrote:
Briefly what equipment and S/W is required to copy VHS tape to CD/DVD.

Second. what are the location code (?) implications of DVDs made on a
PC here to play in, say, the UK?


I have one like this that works well:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EZCap-Easycap-DC60-USB-2-0-VHS-DVD-Converter-Card-Adapter-VIDEO-CAPTURE-CARD-/110914868612?pt=AU_Components&hash=item19d30a9584

+1
We converted old videos of the kids with one of those, ridiculously
cheap and does a perfectly acceptable job.

As to your other question, as far as I know any recently made DVD player
will handle any region disc. Recent = say 5 years or younger.

 

[asdf]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:44:07 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Any PC with video a capture card will do. Most decent quality TV cards
have
a fairly good analog video input which would exceed the VHS
capabilities.

Not anymore, fuck all do anymore.

Look for Easycap then, a dirt cheap USB dongle. We're talking about VHS,
the OP won't need HD or stuff like that, just a clean video input plus a
decent software to do some motion correction and filtering which will
help compression a lot.

Keep in mind that burned CD and DVD media have a much shorter life span
than the ones you buy: in 2 to 5 years most DVDs lose their content,
regardless of how they were kept (speaking from actual experience).

Oh bullshit.

I wish it was bullshit, unfortunately it is not.

 

[Krypsis]

On 17/07/2012 7:21 PM, asdf wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:44:07 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Any PC with video a capture card will do. Most decent quality TV cards
have
a fairly good analog video input which would exceed the VHS
capabilities.

Not anymore, fuck all do anymore.

Look for Easycap then, a dirt cheap USB dongle. We're talking about VHS,
the OP won't need HD or stuff like that, just a clean video input plus a
decent software to do some motion correction and filtering which will
help compression a lot.

Keep in mind that burned CD and DVD media have a much shorter life span
than the ones you buy: in 2 to 5 years most DVDs lose their content,
regardless of how they were kept (speaking from actual experience).

Oh bullshit.

I wish it was bullshit, unfortunately it is not.

Not entirely correct, not entirely incorrect either.

Recordable CD and DVD media kept in a dark dry environment will last for
quite some time. Kept in the sunlight and it could be "erased" in
considerably less time than a couple of years. CD-R and DVD-R media have
a lifespan of ~25 years but that is when stored in ideal conditions and
not subject to physical abuse. Quality of the storage media also plays a
very large part.

Back in the 90s, I archived a significant amount of information related
to my work on CD-R media. I used very expensive media back then. All
those discs, at least those I still retain from that era, are still
readable. That is due to their storage in the most ideal conditions I
can provide.

I did transfer a lot of the CD-R data to DVD-R a couple of years back
thereby reducing the storage volume considerably. In the near future I
may commence a move to BluRay media since my PowerMac is equipped with a
BluRay burner. I would have made that move much sooner but first grade
BluRay media was ridiculously expensive for quite some time after I
bought the PowerMac in 2005 or thereabouts.

I currently have a MacPro Server which will have 8 TeraBytes of storage
capacity by month end. It will be used to house my ISO files in the
future. As insurance, I keep ISO files of stored CDs and DVDs on hard
drive. This is not a difficult task given the state of play with current
hard drive media capacity and provides me with much more ready access to
my files.

--

Krypsis

 

[Rod Speed]

Krypsis <krypsis@optusnet.com.au> wrote

asdf wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Any PC with video a capture card will do. Most decent quality TV cards
have a fairly good analog video input which would exceed the VHS
capabilities.

Not anymore, fuck all do anymore.

Look for Easycap then, a dirt cheap USB dongle. We're talking about VHS,
the OP won't need HD or stuff like that, just a clean video input plus a
decent software to do some motion correction and filtering which will
help compression a lot.

Keep in mind that burned CD and DVD media have a much shorter life span
than the ones you buy: in 2 to 5 years most DVDs lose their content,
regardless of how they were kept (speaking from actual experience).

Oh bullshit.

I wish it was bullshit, unfortunately it is not.

Not entirely correct, not entirely incorrect either.

Recordable CD and DVD media kept in a dark dry environment will last for
quite some time. Kept in the sunlight and it could be "erased" in
considerably less time than a couple of years.

I don’t even bother with cases anymore, let alone
keep them in the dark, and havent lost even one.

CD-R and DVD-R media have a lifespan of ~25 years but that is when stored
in ideal conditions and not subject to physical abuse. Quality of the
storage media also plays a very large part.

And so does what you burn them with too.

Back in the 90s, I archived a significant amount of information related to
my work on CD-R media. I used very expensive media back then. All those
discs, at least those I still retain from that era, are still readable.

Mine too.

That is due to their storage in the most ideal conditions I can provide.

Nope, because I didn’t bother and got the same result.

I did transfer a lot of the CD-R data to DVD-R a couple of years back
thereby reducing the storage volume considerably.

I don’t bother. So mine have been around a lot longer than yours.

In the near future I may commence a move to BluRay media since my PowerMac
is equipped with a BluRay burner. I would have made that move much sooner
but first grade BluRay media was ridiculously expensive for quite some
time after I bought the PowerMac in 2005 or thereabouts.

I'd put it on a couple of xTB drives instead.

I currently have a MacPro Server which will have 8 TeraBytes of storage
capacity by month end. It will be used to house my ISO files in the
future. As insurance, I keep ISO files of stored CDs and DVDs on hard
drive. This is not a difficult task given the state of play with current
hard drive media capacity and provides me with much more ready access to
my files.

So why bother with blueray media at all ?

 

[Krypsis]

On 18/07/2012 5:05 AM, Rod Speed wrote:

Krypsis <krypsis@optusnet.com.au> wrote
asdf wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Any PC with video a capture card will do. Most decent quality TV
cards have a fairly good analog video input which would exceed the
VHS capabilities.

Not anymore, fuck all do anymore.

Look for Easycap then, a dirt cheap USB dongle. We're talking about VHS,
the OP won't need HD or stuff like that, just a clean video input plus a
decent software to do some motion correction and filtering which will
help compression a lot.

Keep in mind that burned CD and DVD media have a much shorter life
span than the ones you buy: in 2 to 5 years most DVDs lose their
content,
regardless of how they were kept (speaking from actual experience).

Oh bullshit.

I wish it was bullshit, unfortunately it is not.

Not entirely correct, not entirely incorrect either.

Recordable CD and DVD media kept in a dark dry environment will last
for quite some time. Kept in the sunlight and it could be "erased" in
considerably less time than a couple of years.

I don’t even bother with cases anymore, let alone
keep them in the dark, and havent lost even one.

For the most part, mine are stored in slimline jewel cases which are in
turn stored in cardboard cartons. I had thought of dispensing with the
jewel cases but I have no shortage of storage space so, for the moment,
the jewel cases stay. I noticed recently that I still had a large box of
empty jewel cases. These were from the CDs which contained less critical
data so I dispensed with the CDs themselves and retained the cases for
DVDs. That was in excess of 1,000 CDs, if my memory serves me correctly.
Ah, technology advances create such waste!

CD-R and DVD-R media have a lifespan of ~25 years but that is when
stored in ideal conditions and not subject to physical abuse. Quality
of the storage media also plays a very large part.

And so does what you burn them with too.

I tend to use Pioneer burners these days and I find the speed of the
burn the most critical issue. I never burn at full speed. With CDs, I
typically burn at 8x, sometimes 16x. DVDs usually at 4x. A colleague of
mine used to burn his at the maximum speed his drive was capable of. I
found his disks very iffy to read on any of my drives. Never could
understand why he was so obssessed with speed as he had plenty of time
on his hands. Reliability of the burn was a much more important criteria
in my estimation.

Back in the 90s, I archived a significant amount of information
related to my work on CD-R media. I used very expensive media back
then. All those discs, at least those I still retain from that era,
are still readable.

Mine too.

That is due to their storage in the most ideal conditions I can provide.

Nope, because I didn’t bother and got the same result.

My archived data is critical, I'd rather not take the chance on
readability down the track as the storage issue isn't a difficult one.

I did transfer a lot of the CD-R data to DVD-R a couple of years back
thereby reducing the storage volume considerably.

I don’t bother. So mine have been around a lot longer than yours.

Not really since I kept all the CD-Rs from which the important data had
been transferred. My first CD Burner was a SCSI 2x burner which used
caddies. The caddies were a blasted nuisance. Can't recall what I paid
for it but it wasn't cheap. The first CD reader I had was an external
SCSI unit that cost me in the order of $5,000 back sometime in the mid
80s. Probably still have all the original receipts kicking around here
somewhere.

In the near future I may commence a move to BluRay media since my
PowerMac is equipped with a BluRay burner. I would have made that move
much sooner but first grade BluRay media was ridiculously expensive
for quite some time after I bought the PowerMac in 2005 or thereabouts.

I'd put it on a couple of xTB drives instead.

That's what I'm currently in the process of doing. It was on 8 x 1TB
drives. I have just moved it all to 2 x 2TB drives. Took about 40+ hours
to transfer but required little actual effort on my part other than
initiating each transfer and then waiting until it finished. I have
another 3 TBs stored on various external hard disk drives here and I
will add them to my server when I get another couple of 2 TB drives.

I currently have a MacPro Server which will have 8 TeraBytes of
storage capacity by month end. It will be used to house my ISO files
in the future. As insurance, I keep ISO files of stored CDs and DVDs
on hard drive. This is not a difficult task given the state of play
with current hard drive media capacity and provides me with much more
ready access to my files.

So why bother with blueray media at all ?

Note, I said I "may commence a move to BluRay media". It seems much less
likely now given the price and capacity of hard disk drives, not to
mention much more effort.

--

Krypsis

 

[asdf]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:28:04 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Its bullshit. That hasn’t happened with any of the DVDs I have burnt.

Then keep your opinion as I keep mine. I lost about 10% in almost 300
disks, different brands and writers, all verified, most read just once
or twice, all kept vertical in their box in a drawer away from sunlight.

Luckily for most of them I realized what was going on before it was too
late. This didn't save the sources of a project I was working on in 2002
though: about 3 years ago they were already gone, both master and backup
disk, all Sony not burned by me.

 

[Krypsis]

On 19/07/2012 4:08 AM, asdf wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:28:04 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Its bullshit. That hasn’t happened with any of the DVDs I have burnt.


Then keep your opinion as I keep mine. I lost about 10% in almost 300
disks, different brands and writers, all verified, most read just once
or twice, all kept vertical in their box in a drawer away from sunlight.

Luckily for most of them I realized what was going on before it was too
late. This didn't save the sources of a project I was working on in 2002
though: about 3 years ago they were already gone, both master and backup
disk, all Sony not burned by me.

I've never been one to keep data backed up onto a single media format. I

especially don't trust magnetic media for the long term. I originally
hoped that optical media would be a salvation of sorts but, whilst it
has a longer storage life than current magnetic media, it isn't proving
as reliable or as convenient as I thought it might.

In the past I used floppy disks and tape. I think I still might have a
few tapes laying about here somewhere however the drive is no longer
functional and was binned many years back. Don't even know if the newer
tape drives will read the old format tapes anyway.

Regardless, I transferred everything to CD-R at first, then progressed
to DVD-R as the technology allowed. It was a time consuming process. I
began the process of moving it to DVD-R, and had completed some 75% of
the transfer, when I started having doubts about the longevity of the
DVD-R medium. The DVDs did not seem to be anywhere near as reliable as
the CDs have been.

With the fall in cost of hard drives, I moved much of my data to hard
disks storage instead. I have found this form to be much more convenient
than any removeable form of storage medium. As capacities grow, I
progressively move the data to larger drives. This is so much easier
than burning CDs or DVDs. Most of my critical stuff is on 6 external 1
TB drives. By the end of this month it will also be on 3 x 2 TB drives
in my MacPro. That gives me 2 forms of storage media. The third will be,
effectively, in the cloud. By that I mean that my MacPro will back up
all its data to the server at my office in the city where it will
subsequently be backed up to tape.

Am I paranoid? Definitely!

--

Krypsis

 

[Rob]

On 19/07/2012 4:08 AM, asdf wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:28:04 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Its bullshit. That hasn’t happened with any of the DVDs I have burnt.


Then keep your opinion as I keep mine. I lost about 10% in almost 300
disks, different brands and writers, all verified, most read just once
or twice, all kept vertical in their box in a drawer away from sunlight.

Luckily for most of them I realized what was going on before it was too
late. This didn't save the sources of a project I was working on in 2002
though: about 3 years ago they were already gone, both master and backup
disk, all Sony not burned by me.

I bought some CD's burnt some data to them, checked etc and the within
two days unreadable. they were of some scanned images to be used the
next day.

 

[Rod Speed]

asdf <asdf@nospam.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote
asdf <asdf@nospam.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
asdf <asdf@nospam.com> wrote

Keep in mind that burned CD and DVD media have a much shorter life
span than the ones you buy: in 2 to 5 years most DVDs lose their
content,
regardless of how they were kept (speaking from actual experience).

Oh bullshit.

I wish it was bullshit, unfortunately it is not.

Its bullshit. That hasn’t happened with any of the DVDs I have burnt.

Then keep your opinion

Mine isnt an opinion, it’s a fact.

as I keep mine. I lost about 10% in almost 300 disks, different
brands and writers, all verified, most read just once or twice,
all kept vertical in their box in a drawer away from sunlight.

Then you either bought some shit media or used a shit burner.

Luckily for most of them I realized what was going on before
it was too late. This didn't save the sources of a project I was
working on in 2002 though: about 3 years ago they were already
gone, both master and backup disk, all Sony not burned by me.

Then a shit burner was used.

 

[Rod Speed]

"Rob" <mesamine@google.com> wrote in message
news:ju7f7f$bv3$1@dont-email.me...

On 19/07/2012 4:08 AM, asdf wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:28:04 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Its bullshit. That hasn’t happened with any of the DVDs I have burnt.


Then keep your opinion as I keep mine. I lost about 10% in almost 300
disks, different brands and writers, all verified, most read just once
or twice, all kept vertical in their box in a drawer away from sunlight.

Luckily for most of them I realized what was going on before it was too
late. This didn't save the sources of a project I was working on in 2002
though: about 3 years ago they were already gone, both master and backup
disk, all Sony not burned by me.

I bought some CD's burnt some data to them, checked etc and the within two
days unreadable.

Then you had a shit burner.

> they were of some scanned images to be used the next day.