Vendor fraud? Electromechanical relays

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I've been ordering relays from a place online for almost a year now. I
order anything from Magnecraft, American Zettler, MEC, Omron, relays,
etc.

However, I realized recently that they are stamping the part numbers on
brandless relays, and at times, the ink smears onto the cellophane or
clear plastic cases.

I found this out last week after I ordered a 4PDT Magnecraft relay, and
received a DPDT, but there was a stamp (with what looks like an ink
stamper you can buy from an office supply store) that did bear the
desired name and part number of the 4PDT part.

It seems misleading for them to be shipping me generic relays from who
knows where, when I think i'm ordering a certain brand and paying top
bucks. What's worse is that relays with the same pcboard footprints are
not necessarily all "equal", each with slightly different
characteristics.

If such activity is illegal, whom should i contact?
 
I read in sci.electronics.design that valemike@yahoo.com wrote (in
<1104325837.498455.194690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>) about 'Vendor
fraud? Electromechanical relays', on Wed, 29 Dec 2004:

If such activity is illegal, whom should i contact?
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It depends which country you are in, and which country the vendor is in.

You could contact the manufacturers of the relays and tell them that you
suspect that inferior products are being 'passed off' as theirs, and
leave the action to them.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
 
"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
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I read in sci.electronics.design that valemike@yahoo.com wrote (in
1104325837.498455.194690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>) about 'Vendor
fraud? Electromechanical relays', on Wed, 29 Dec 2004:

If such activity is illegal, whom should i contact?

It depends which country you are in, and which country the vendor is in.

You could contact the manufacturers of the relays and tell them that you
suspect that inferior products are being 'passed off' as theirs, and
leave the action to them.
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I'd definitely start there... And probably dump the supplier!

Cheers,
Anders
 
You could at least have posted the name of this vendor, so we can all
avoid it...
 
larwe@larwe.com wrote:
You could at least have posted the name of this vendor, so we can all
avoid it...
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I was very tempted to post the name in the original post, but I didn't
want to libel anyone.

So to rephrase my comment...
The vendor who sold me relays with stamped-on part numbers that smeared
off is
www.onlinecomponents.com
 
valemike@yahoo.com wrote:
I've been ordering relays from a place online for almost a year now. I
order anything from Magnecraft, American Zettler, MEC, Omron, relays,
etc.
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There are no counterfeit product reports for any of those manufacturers:
http://www.erai.com/scripts/counterfeit.asp
 
"Anders F" <af-spam@hi5.dk> wrote in message
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"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
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I read in sci.electronics.design that valemike@yahoo.com wrote (in
1104325837.498455.194690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>) about 'Vendor
fraud? Electromechanical relays', on Wed, 29 Dec 2004:

If such activity is illegal, whom should i contact?

It depends which country you are in, and which country the vendor is in.

You could contact the manufacturers of the relays and tell them that you
suspect that inferior products are being 'passed off' as theirs, and
leave the action to them.

I'd definitely start there... And probably dump the supplier!

Cheers,
Anders
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"Probably" ??

Ken
 
<valemike@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104340755.834920.40780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
larwe@larwe.com wrote:
You could at least have posted the name of this vendor, so we can
all
avoid it...

I was very tempted to post the name in the original post, but I didn't
want to libel anyone.

So to rephrase my comment...
The vendor who sold me relays with stamped-on part numbers that
smeared
off is
www.onlinecomponents.com
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Oh and look, they sell medical equipment too. I can't fathom why
someone that's allowed to sell medical equipment would risk that over
some relays.
 
I found out about them since they are listed in American Zettler's list
of distributors. azettler.com
 
"Jon Elson" <jmelson@artsci.wustl.edu> wrote

I got a tape of Analog Devices op amp chips that were about 50% bad.
... the tape had a dozen different date codes on the chips
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Most likely via China and swapped for a real tape w/o vendor's or
distributor's knowledge.

The high-price (titanium, class 10, inconel ...) fastener industry
was overwhelmed with this about 15 (?) years ago. Structural
failure on airplanes, etc.

--
Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics.
Remove spaces etc. to reply: n o lindan at net com dot com
psst.. want to buy an f-stop timer? nolindan.com/da/fstop/
 
"Ken Taylor" <ken123@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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"Anders F" <af-spam@hi5.dk> wrote in message
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"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:Ep5EsxBher0BFwtk@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
I read in sci.electronics.design that valemike@yahoo.com wrote (in
1104325837.498455.194690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>) about 'Vendor
fraud? Electromechanical relays', on Wed, 29 Dec 2004:

If such activity is illegal, whom should i contact?

It depends which country you are in, and which country the vendor is
in.

You could contact the manufacturers of the relays and tell them that
you
suspect that inferior products are being 'passed off' as theirs, and
leave the action to them.

I'd definitely start there... And probably dump the supplier!

Cheers,
Anders



"Probably" ??
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Well, he might stock hard-to-find parts that I /really/ needed ;-)
But you're naturally right....

Happy New Year =)
/Anders


Ken
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You might want to think about going to the manufacture's website,
finding
their American office, email or call to get a RMA(Return Material
Authorization), and sending the suspected part to them.

You might be snubbing a perfectly good distributor when its the
manufacturer
with poor quality control.
 
"Sharptop" <goldwinger837@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1104415082.784662.34230@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
You might want to think about going to the manufacture's website,
finding
their American office, email or call to get a RMA(Return Material
Authorization), and sending the suspected part to them.

You might be snubbing a perfectly good distributor when its the
manufacturer
with poor quality control.
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That's actually a fair call. I remembered after posting my post, a few years
back when people were getting caught with all those "MILSPEC" bits coming
out of India (IC's, plane components, etc). Some of the IC's even had
silicon in them! :) USAF and others were caught, so I guess if they can,
then so can a distributor.

Ken
 
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