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N_Cook
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Anyone know?
No underlying idents , only 3 years old at most
No underlying idents , only 3 years old at most
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N_Cook
Guest
From pcb Enumber, the boards are made in Hong Kong, despite Union flag logo
on the overlay and "Made in England" on the chassis. I will assume No-Name
Chinese valves unless anyone knows any better
on the overlay and "Made in England" on the chassis. I will assume No-Name
Chinese valves unless anyone knows any better
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Phil Allison
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"Nutcase Kook"
** Orange Amps do not use or recommend any particular brand of valve.
But you would be a fool to use anything less that the best EL84s and EL34s
you can get - cos those amps are sooooooo tough on output valves.
Svetlana and JJ are the ones to look at with EH down the list somewhat.
...... Phil
** Orange Amps do not use or recommend any particular brand of valve.
But you would be a fool to use anything less that the best EL84s and EL34s
you can get - cos those amps are sooooooo tough on output valves.
Svetlana and JJ are the ones to look at with EH down the list somewhat.
...... Phil
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Gareth Magennis
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"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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years or so. I bought a whole bunch straight from the factory (EL34, EL84,
6L6, ECC83 - not tried any JJ6550's, usually get Svetlanas as required).
I can't remember seeing any amps come back with a failed JJ Tube I fitted.
When I do see an amp back I recheck the bias current and they are always
still closely matched.
They are priced well towards the cheaper end of the quality tube market.
(Last Orange amp I had, a Rockverb 50, I replaced 4 x 6V6 with JJ's, haven't
seen it since)
Gareth.
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I've been buying and fitting JJ Tesla valves exclusively for the last 5
years or so. I bought a whole bunch straight from the factory (EL34, EL84,
6L6, ECC83 - not tried any JJ6550's, usually get Svetlanas as required).
I can't remember seeing any amps come back with a failed JJ Tube I fitted.
When I do see an amp back I recheck the bias current and they are always
still closely matched.
They are priced well towards the cheaper end of the quality tube market.
(Last Orange amp I had, a Rockverb 50, I replaced 4 x 6V6 with JJ's, haven't
seen it since)
Gareth.
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N_Cook
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Gareth Magennis <sound.service@btconnect.com> wrote in message
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I take it from that , that the Orange amp reputation as valve-eaters is due
to whether Chinese or whatever Orange re-badged valves they use, for
reliability replace with good named brand ones at the first opportunity.
news:VLKdnWhZzK4LF0LQnZ2dnUVZ8s-dnZ2d@bt.com...
I take it from that , that the Orange amp reputation as valve-eaters is due
to whether Chinese or whatever Orange re-badged valves they use, for
reliability replace with good named brand ones at the first opportunity.
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Gareth Magennis
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"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
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Dunno about the Orange valve eaters, but cheap junk tubes break like any
other cheap junk.
I don't fit cheap junk cos I don't want the amps coming back, having failed
halfway though a gig, and being accused of fitting cheap junk!
Gareth.
news:iro3b6$pao$1@dont-email.me...
Dunno about the Orange valve eaters, but cheap junk tubes break like any
other cheap junk.
I don't fit cheap junk cos I don't want the amps coming back, having failed
halfway though a gig, and being accused of fitting cheap junk!
Gareth.
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Gareth Magennis
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"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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Here's an interesting thing - I was told by Marshall that quite a few years
ago they tried using JJ Tesla EL34's on their production line. They say
that they had so many problems with returned amps that they reverted back to
their Svetlanas.
(These are the JJ tubes that have an additional small logo to current
production)
I suspect JJ sorted out what might have been a problem in the early days,
just a guess really as I have no data, unless of course there was some other
business type of dispute.
Gareth.
news:9493k8F5rjU1@mid.individual.net...
Here's an interesting thing - I was told by Marshall that quite a few years
ago they tried using JJ Tesla EL34's on their production line. They say
that they had so many problems with returned amps that they reverted back to
their Svetlanas.
(These are the JJ tubes that have an additional small logo to current
production)
I suspect JJ sorted out what might have been a problem in the early days,
just a guess really as I have no data, unless of course there was some other
business type of dispute.
Gareth.
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Gareth Magennis
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.. Best for my concern would be some NOS Mullards
Yeah well, we could all say that.
Doesn't help.
Yeah well, we could all say that.
Doesn't help.
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Meat Plow
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On Fri, 27 May 2011 17:53:39 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:
limited success with JJs. Best for my concern would be some NOS Mullards
or RCA.
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Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse
I've heard that EH stands up well. I'm not a Svetlana fan. Have had
limited success with JJs. Best for my concern would be some NOS Mullards
or RCA.
--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse
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Gareth Magennis
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"Gareth Magennis" <sound.service@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:mLWDp.24219$Am5.16040@newsfe05.ams2...
Sorry, that post reads a little curt, but for example:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EL34-CV1741-MULLARD-NOS-MATCHED-PAIR-/310210519111?pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item4839fce047Blimey.Gareth.
news:mLWDp.24219$Am5.16040@newsfe05.ams2...
Sorry, that post reads a little curt, but for example:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EL34-CV1741-MULLARD-NOS-MATCHED-PAIR-/310210519111?pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item4839fce047Blimey.Gareth.
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Arfa Daily
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"Gareth Magennis" <sound.service@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:LQ6Ep.27950$yI6.1646@newsfe06.ams2...
price, if he thought that they were going to improve one of his many
amplifiers - to his ears at least ...
Arfa
news:LQ6Ep.27950$yI6.1646@newsfe06.ams2...
Blimey indeed. However, I know a hifi nutter who wouldn't blink at that
price, if he thought that they were going to improve one of his many
amplifiers - to his ears at least ...
Arfa
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Meat Plow
Guest
On Sat, 28 May 2011 14:33:30 +0100, Gareth Magennis wrote:
I know a few that wouldn't bat an eyelash at that price.
If all my posts don't help everyone, tough shite.
--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse
pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item4839fce047Blimey.Gareth.
I know a few that wouldn't bat an eyelash at that price.
If all my posts don't help everyone, tough shite.
--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse
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N_Cook
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While at it with Orange amps. Nasty metallic buzz like mains powered shaver/
engraver/ poodle clippers. Varying level of noise with amount of load.
Mains Tx central bar of an outer "E" lamination loose. Simple enough to deal
with once you know the cause. Remove the matching "I" to drible lacquer both
sides. The wiring bobbin is loose within the iron laminations block, so
plenty of space to allow a lamination to break away. Will also push some
silicone rubber sheet in there to avoid re-occurance hopefully.
engraver/ poodle clippers. Varying level of noise with amount of load.
Mains Tx central bar of an outer "E" lamination loose. Simple enough to deal
with once you know the cause. Remove the matching "I" to drible lacquer both
sides. The wiring bobbin is loose within the iron laminations block, so
plenty of space to allow a lamination to break away. Will also push some
silicone rubber sheet in there to avoid re-occurance hopefully.
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N_Cook
Guest
spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On May 29, 8:11 am, "N_Cook" <dive...@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
+++++
They must be esceedingly good because they are exceedingly expensive.
Makes you wonder what the difference is , in Sterling terms, the money going
out to China for making the things compared to the UK selling price.
news:3ceaba6a-6e5b-4e3a-880f-ae17ec71abf3@y27g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On May 29, 8:11 am, "N_Cook" <dive...@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
They sound like absolute garbage. Were Orange amps ever any good?
+++++
They must be esceedingly good because they are exceedingly expensive.
Makes you wonder what the difference is , in Sterling terms, the money going
out to China for making the things compared to the UK selling price.
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spamtrap1888
Guest
On May 29, 8:11 am, "N_Cook" <dive...@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
They sound like absolute garbage. Were Orange amps ever any good?
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N_Cook
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spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On May 29, 8:11 am, "N_Cook" <dive...@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
++++
The other notorious Orange problem - intermittant loss of one channel,
whether by sw on front or footswitch.
Although they use latching 1/4 inch spade connectors, just because they will
not dislodge, does not necessarily mean they retain electrical connection.
news:3ceaba6a-6e5b-4e3a-880f-ae17ec71abf3@y27g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On May 29, 8:11 am, "N_Cook" <dive...@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
They sound like absolute garbage. Were Orange amps ever any good?
++++
The other notorious Orange problem - intermittant loss of one channel,
whether by sw on front or footswitch.
Although they use latching 1/4 inch spade connectors, just because they will
not dislodge, does not necessarily mean they retain electrical connection.
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Gareth Magennis
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"Meat Plow" <mhywattt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You could experiment to see if any of them could really tell the difference
in a properly controlled double blind test.
I am highly suspicious of any opinions regarding "sound quality" obtained
otherwise.
Gareth.
news
an.2011.05.28.22.58.44@emutt.macspoofer.lmao...You could experiment to see if any of them could really tell the difference
in a properly controlled double blind test.
I am highly suspicious of any opinions regarding "sound quality" obtained
otherwise.
Gareth.
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Meat Plow
Guest
On Sun, 29 May 2011 23:21:24 +0100, Gareth Magennis wrote:
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You left out durability factor."Meat Plow" <mhywattt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news
On Sat, 28 May 2011 14:33:30 +0100, Gareth Magennis wrote:
"Gareth Magennis" <sound.service@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:mLWDp.24219$Am5.16040@newsfe05.ams2...
. Best for my concern would be some NOS Mullards
or RCA.
Yeah well, we could all say that.
Doesn't help.
Sorry, that post reads a little curt, but for example:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EL34-CV1741-MULLARD-NOS-MATCHED-
PAIR-/310210519111?
pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item4839fce047Blimey.Gareth.
I know a few that wouldn't bat an eyelash at that price.
You could experiment to see if any of them could really tell the
difference in a properly controlled double blind test.
I am highly suspicious of any opinions regarding "sound quality"
obtained otherwise.
Gareth.
--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse
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N_Cook
Guest
The owner had lived with the "shaver" noise for months,but had gradually got
worse. Masked by the demand effect, no music - light buzz, high music
volume - loud buzz.
Absolutely quiet transformer now. Just hope the other end "E" does not play
up as that would require removing the Tx and its wiring from the chassis. It
is now tight up against the bobbin now so not too likely .
worse. Masked by the demand effect, no music - light buzz, high music
volume - loud buzz.
Absolutely quiet transformer now. Just hope the other end "E" does not play
up as that would require removing the Tx and its wiring from the chassis. It
is now tight up against the bobbin now so not too likely .