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vivian
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Is bsim3v3 the only valid Mosfet model of doing analog simulation in
spectre?
Thank you.
spectre?
Thank you.
J
Jim Thompson
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On 17 Oct 2005 12:42:08 -0700, "vivian" <wangllu@yahoo.com> wrote:
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"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> a écrit dans le message de
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Fred.
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Fred.
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Jim Thompson
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:40:24 +0200, "Fred Bartoli"
<fred._canxxxel_this_bartoli@RemoveThatAlso_free.fr_AndThisToo> wrote:
I don't of any simulator that doesn't at least handle CMOS model
Level=1 up into the first versions of BSIM3.
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<fred._canxxxel_this_bartoli@RemoveThatAlso_free.fr_AndThisToo> wrote:
Then RTFM ;-)
I don't of any simulator that doesn't at least handle CMOS model
Level=1 up into the first versions of BSIM3.
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vivian
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what about tsmc25, level 49? It seems that spectre doesn't recognize
'NMOS' or 'PMOS' device.
'NMOS' or 'PMOS' device.
J
Jim Thompson
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On 18 Oct 2005 11:37:04 -0700, "vivian" <wangllu@yahoo.com> wrote:
PSpice calls it "Level=7"
Works just ducky in PSpice...
***************** CORNER_LIB OF TYPICAL MODEL ******************
*.LIB TT
..param toxp = 5.4e-9 toxn = 5.4e-9
+dxl = 0 dxw = 0
+dvthn = 0.0 dvthp = 0.00
+cjn = 1.836615E-03 cjp= 1.833935E-03
+cjswn = 4.234822E-10 cjswp = 3.472876E-10
+cgon = 3.5E-10 cgop = 3.3E-10
+cjgaten = 3.286035E-10 cjgatep = 2.500235E-10
+hdifn = 2.625e-07 hdifp = 2.625e-7
*.lib 'mix025.l' MOS
*.ENDL TT
..lib C:\PSpice\DeviceLib\TSMC_0p25\CMOS.lib
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"Level=49" is an HSpice designation. What does Spectre call it?
PSpice calls it "Level=7"
Works just ducky in PSpice...
***************** CORNER_LIB OF TYPICAL MODEL ******************
*.LIB TT
..param toxp = 5.4e-9 toxn = 5.4e-9
+dxl = 0 dxw = 0
+dvthn = 0.0 dvthp = 0.00
+cjn = 1.836615E-03 cjp= 1.833935E-03
+cjswn = 4.234822E-10 cjswp = 3.472876E-10
+cgon = 3.5E-10 cgop = 3.3E-10
+cjgaten = 3.286035E-10 cjgatep = 2.500235E-10
+hdifn = 2.625e-07 hdifp = 2.625e-7
*.lib 'mix025.l' MOS
*.ENDL TT
..lib C:\PSpice\DeviceLib\TSMC_0p25\CMOS.lib
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vivian
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Thank you, Jim.
I checked the document of spectre, and found that it supports bsim1, 2,
3, 3v3, 4, and some other device models.
it deos not have NMOS or PMOS deveice model at all, which means the
tsmc25 spectre model
(level 11)can not be used in spectre. So I will use bsim3v3 and see the
results.
I checked the document of spectre, and found that it supports bsim1, 2,
3, 3v3, 4, and some other device models.
it deos not have NMOS or PMOS deveice model at all, which means the
tsmc25 spectre model
(level 11)can not be used in spectre. So I will use bsim3v3 and see the
results.
J
Jim Thompson
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On 19 Oct 2005 09:20:22 -0700, "vivian" <wangllu@yahoo.com> wrote:
the foundry, as in...
..model N NMOS Level=7 ; [Level=49 in HSpice]
*
* NMOS (3.3 Volts, 70A, NChannel)
*
+ version = 3.2
+ xpart = 1
+ hdif = 0.42e-6
+ tox={6.9e-9+tox_skew_n}
+ vth0={0.53231+vtnhf_skew}
+ lint={2.73e-8-((2*poly2_bias)+poly2_skew_n)/2}
+ wint={1.07453e-7-((2*act_bias)+act2_skew_n-0.0)/2}
+ cgso={3.77e-11*7.0e-9/(7.0e-9+tox_skew_n)}
+ cgdo={3.77e-11*7.0e-9/(7.0e-9+tox_skew_n)}
+ dlc = {2.73e-8-((2*poly2_bias)+poly2_skew_n)/2}
+ cjswg = {1.55e-10*capa_skew_n}
+ cj={9.44e-4*capa_skew_n}
+ cjsw={1.6e-10*capa_skew_n}
*
+t_measured = 27
+xj = 1.5e-7 nch = 1.75528e17
+k1 = 0.588564 k2 = -0.0118365
+k3 = 1.14815 k3b = 0 w0 = 1.63e-6
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...Jim Thompson
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NMOS and PMOS are device TYPES. The actual MODEL will be supplied by
the foundry, as in...
..model N NMOS Level=7 ; [Level=49 in HSpice]
*
* NMOS (3.3 Volts, 70A, NChannel)
*
+ version = 3.2
+ xpart = 1
+ hdif = 0.42e-6
+ tox={6.9e-9+tox_skew_n}
+ vth0={0.53231+vtnhf_skew}
+ lint={2.73e-8-((2*poly2_bias)+poly2_skew_n)/2}
+ wint={1.07453e-7-((2*act_bias)+act2_skew_n-0.0)/2}
+ cgso={3.77e-11*7.0e-9/(7.0e-9+tox_skew_n)}
+ cgdo={3.77e-11*7.0e-9/(7.0e-9+tox_skew_n)}
+ dlc = {2.73e-8-((2*poly2_bias)+poly2_skew_n)/2}
+ cjswg = {1.55e-10*capa_skew_n}
+ cj={9.44e-4*capa_skew_n}
+ cjsw={1.6e-10*capa_skew_n}
*
+t_measured = 27
+xj = 1.5e-7 nch = 1.75528e17
+k1 = 0.588564 k2 = -0.0118365
+k3 = 1.14815 k3b = 0 w0 = 1.63e-6
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...Jim Thompson
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