USB Superspeed Cables...

[Rick C]

I\'m looking for good quality USB cables for superspeed devices. It didn\'t register with me that there would be a difference until my phone would not connect to Android Auto other than with one cable that came with a device that uses superspeed, probably a disk drive enclosure. I thought it was just a matter of intermittent connections in the ebay cables I had been buying.. Then it dawned on me that superspeed requires specific design features in the cable. Duh!

Looking on the usual sources doesn\'t turn up a lot of good sources. I want it to be 3 ft/1 m which is common and blue because of the color coding I use for cables. Trying to find that combo is a bit of work and so far, nothing that isn\'t absurdly priced (like >$30) or of dubious sources (like companies that clearly don\'t want you to return anything so they make it as hard as possible).

Where do you buy superspeed cables? Specifically I\'m looking for 3.1 gen 2 cables, but like with other revs that doesn\'t actually give a speed rating (well, maybe gen 2 does) since the standard is backwards compatible.

I was in MicroCenter a while back, but they don\'t really have a good selection of USB cables and they are 95% black. I hate black anything because it is invisible in the bottom of a bag. So many cables look the same in the deep dark recesses of a computer bag.

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[Rick C]

On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 3:33:49 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:

I\'m looking for good quality USB cables for superspeed devices. It didn\'t register with me that there would be a difference until my phone would not connect to Android Auto other than with one cable that came with a device that uses superspeed, probably a disk drive enclosure. I thought it was just a matter of intermittent connections in the ebay cables I had been buying.. Then it dawned on me that superspeed requires specific design features in the cable. Duh!

Looking on the usual sources doesn\'t turn up a lot of good sources. I want it to be 3 ft/1 m which is common and blue because of the color coding I use for cables. Trying to find that combo is a bit of work and so far, nothing that isn\'t absurdly priced (like >$30) or of dubious sources (like companies that clearly don\'t want you to return anything so they make it as hard as possible).

Where do you buy superspeed cables? Specifically I\'m looking for 3.1 gen 2 cables, but like with other revs that doesn\'t actually give a speed rating (well, maybe gen 2 does) since the standard is backwards compatible.

I was in MicroCenter a while back, but they don\'t really have a good selection of USB cables and they are 95% black. I hate black anything because it is invisible in the bottom of a bag. So many cables look the same in the deep dark recesses of a computer bag.

Forgot to mention Type A to Type C and it would be useful to have at least one with the Type C connector being right angled. I don\'t see the right angles very often. Anyone here use them? I find that works better for a cell phone in the car. It lets me set it in the cup holder with less strain on the connector.

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[Dennis]

On 1/12/22 2:38 PM, Rick C wrote:

On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 3:33:49 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
I\'m looking for good quality USB cables for superspeed devices. It didn\'t register with me that there would be a difference until my phone would not connect to Android Auto other than with one cable that came with a device that uses superspeed, probably a disk drive enclosure. I thought it was just a matter of intermittent connections in the ebay cables I had been buying. Then it dawned on me that superspeed requires specific design features in the cable. Duh!

Looking on the usual sources doesn\'t turn up a lot of good sources. I want it to be 3 ft/1 m which is common and blue because of the color coding I use for cables. Trying to find that combo is a bit of work and so far, nothing that isn\'t absurdly priced (like >$30) or of dubious sources (like companies that clearly don\'t want you to return anything so they make it as hard as possible).

Where do you buy superspeed cables? Specifically I\'m looking for 3.1 gen 2 cables, but like with other revs that doesn\'t actually give a speed rating (well, maybe gen 2 does) since the standard is backwards compatible.

I was in MicroCenter a while back, but they don\'t really have a good selection of USB cables and they are 95% black. I hate black anything because it is invisible in the bottom of a bag. So many cables look the same in the deep dark recesses of a computer bag.

Forgot to mention Type A to Type C and it would be useful to have at least one with the Type C connector being right angled. I don\'t see the right angles very often. Anyone here use them? I find that works better for a cell phone in the car. It lets me set it in the cup holder with less strain on the connector.

Can you get super speed with a type A connector? I thought the super
speed had an extra differential pair that isn\'t on an A connector.

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

onsdag den 12. januar 2022 kl. 22.03.27 UTC+1 skrev Dennis:

On 1/12/22 2:38 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 3:33:49 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
I\'m looking for good quality USB cables for superspeed devices. It didn\'t register with me that there would be a difference until my phone would not connect to Android Auto other than with one cable that came with a device that uses superspeed, probably a disk drive enclosure. I thought it was just a matter of intermittent connections in the ebay cables I had been buying. Then it dawned on me that superspeed requires specific design features in the cable. Duh!

Looking on the usual sources doesn\'t turn up a lot of good sources. I want it to be 3 ft/1 m which is common and blue because of the color coding I use for cables. Trying to find that combo is a bit of work and so far, nothing that isn\'t absurdly priced (like >$30) or of dubious sources (like companies that clearly don\'t want you to return anything so they make it as hard as possible).

Where do you buy superspeed cables? Specifically I\'m looking for 3.1 gen 2 cables, but like with other revs that doesn\'t actually give a speed rating (well, maybe gen 2 does) since the standard is backwards compatible.

I was in MicroCenter a while back, but they don\'t really have a good selection of USB cables and they are 95% black. I hate black anything because it is invisible in the bottom of a bag. So many cables look the same in the deep dark recesses of a computer bag.

Forgot to mention Type A to Type C and it would be useful to have at least one with the Type C connector being right angled. I don\'t see the right angles very often. Anyone here use them? I find that works better for a cell phone in the car. It lets me set it in the cup holder with less strain on the connector.

Can you get super speed with a type A connector? I thought the super
speed had an extra differential pair that isn\'t on an A connector.

yes, it looks and fits like a type A but has more connections (that only connect in the blue USB 3.0 SuperSpeed sockets)

 

[server]

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:9d5b0fd0-24c9-4bc2-b7d3-ae672b6e1631n@googlegroups.com:

I\'m looking for good quality USB cables for superspeed devices.
It didn\'t register with me that there would be a difference until
my phone would not connect to Android Auto other than with one
cable that came with a device that uses superspeed, probably a
disk drive enclosure. I thought it was just a matter of
intermittent connections in the ebay cables I had been buying.
Then it dawned on me that superspeed requires specific design
features in the cable. Duh!

Looking on the usual sources doesn\'t turn up a lot of good
sources. I want it to be 3 ft/1 m which is common and blue
because of the color coding I use for cables. Trying to find that
combo is a bit of work and so far, nothing that isn\'t absurdly
priced (like >$30) or of dubious sources (like companies that
clearly don\'t want you to return anything so they make it as hard
as possible).

Where do you buy superspeed cables? Specifically I\'m looking for
3.1 gen 2 cables, but like with other revs that doesn\'t actually
give a speed rating (well, maybe gen 2 does) since the standard is
backwards compatible.

I was in MicroCenter a while back, but they don\'t really have a
good selection of USB cables and they are 95% black. I hate black
anything because it is invisible in the bottom of a bag. So many
cables look the same in the deep dark recesses of a computer bag.

Manards has good price cloth covered USB3 cables that were cheap. I
went back and bought more. They are there as \"gaming cables\" for the
Xbox. IOW microUSB.

Dang gas stations want $20 for the cheap ones. The one I found at
Manards were cheap and high quality. My iPad cables were too.
Whenever I go there I look in that isle for bargains.

I also paid like $34 for a DeWalt cloth covered high current multi-
cable that has microUSB and Apple\'s and USB-C. The connector changes
stay attached to the cable and cannot get lost.

Amazon and EBay both allow returns of some things, regardless of
what the seller declares.

 

[server]

Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote in
news:03e9b039-5704-4161-ab5f-849d787b229dn@googlegroups.com:

yes, it looks and fits like a type A but has more connections
(that only connect in the blue USB 3.0 SuperSpeed sockets)

USB1 2 and 3 have the same number of pins.

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

torsdag den 13. januar 2022 kl. 00.34.45 UTC+1 skrev DecadentLinux...@decadence.org:

Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote in
news:03e9b039-5704-4161...@googlegroups.com:
yes, it looks and fits like a type A but has more connections
(that only connect in the blue USB 3.0 SuperSpeed sockets)


USB1 2 and 3 have the same number of pins.

slowspeed,fullspeed and high speed all use the same pins,
Superspeed uses extra pins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#/media/File:Connector_USB_3_IMGP6024_wp.jpg

 

[Rick C]

On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 6:34:45 PM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote in
news:03e9b039-5704-4161...@googlegroups.com:
yes, it looks and fits like a type A but has more connections
(that only connect in the blue USB 3.0 SuperSpeed sockets)


USB1 2 and 3 have the same number of pins.

Not correct. USB 2.0 low speed, high speed and full speed all use four pins, two for power and two for data. USB 3 added five more pins in the Type A connector, recessed into the shell of the plug.

Here, this will help you understand.

https://juicedsystems.com/blogs/news/know-your-usb-a-practical-guide-to-the-universal-serial-bus

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[John Doe]

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I\'m looking for good quality USB cables for superspeed devices. It didn\'t register with me that there would be a difference until my phone would not connect to Android Auto other than with one cable that came with a device that uses superspeed, probably a disk drive enclosure. I thought it was just a matter of intermittent connections in the ebay cables I had been buying. Then it dawned on me that superspeed requires specific design features in the cable. Duh!

Looking on the usual sources doesn\'t turn up a lot of good sources. I want it to be 3 ft/1 m which is common and blue because of the color coding I use for cables. Trying to find that combo is a bit of work and so far, nothing that isn\'t absurdly priced (like >$30) or of dubious sources (like companies that clearly don\'t want you to return anything so they make it as hard as possible).

Where do you buy superspeed cables? Specifically I\'m looking for 3.1 gen 2 cables, but like with other revs that doesn\'t actually give a speed rating (well, maybe gen 2 does) since the standard is backwards compatible.

I was in MicroCenter a while back, but they don\'t really have a good selection of USB cables and they are 95% black. I hate black anything because it is invisible in the bottom of a bag. So many cables look the same in the deep dark recesses of a computer bag.

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Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:9d5b0fd0-24c9-4bc2-b7d3-ae672b6e1631n@googlegroups.com:

I\'m looking for good quality USB cables for superspeed devices.
It didn\'t register with me that there would be a difference until
my phone would not connect to Android Auto other than with one
cable that came with a device that uses superspeed, probably a
disk drive enclosure. I thought it was just a matter of
intermittent connections in the ebay cables I had been buying.
Then it dawned on me that superspeed requires specific design
features in the cable. Duh!

Looking on the usual sources doesn\'t turn up a lot of good
sources. I want it to be 3 ft/1 m which is common and blue
because of the color coding I use for cables. Trying to find that
combo is a bit of work and so far, nothing that isn\'t absurdly
priced (like >$30) or of dubious sources (like companies that
clearly don\'t want you to return anything so they make it as hard
as possible).

Where do you buy superspeed cables? Specifically I\'m looking for
3.1 gen 2 cables, but like with other revs that doesn\'t actually
give a speed rating (well, maybe gen 2 does) since the standard is
backwards compatible.

I was in MicroCenter a while back, but they don\'t really have a
good selection of USB cables and they are 95% black. I hate black
anything because it is invisible in the bottom of a bag. So many
cables look the same in the deep dark recesses of a computer bag.


Manards has good price cloth covered USB3 cables that were cheap. I
went back and bought more. They are there as \"gaming cables\" for the
Xbox. IOW microUSB.

Dang gas stations want $20 for the cheap ones. The one I found at
Manards were cheap and high quality. My iPad cables were too.
Whenever I go there I look in that isle for bargains.

I also paid like $34 for a DeWalt cloth covered high current multi-
cable that has microUSB and Apple\'s and USB-C. The connector changes
stay attached to the cable and cannot get lost.

Amazon and EBay both allow returns of some things, regardless of
what the seller declares.

 

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[Edward Hernandez]

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> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

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The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
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CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
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[server]

Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote in
news:a87b3f35-8421-4f8a-9f41-a7b89fdfe264n@googlegroups.com:

torsdag den 13. januar 2022 kl. 00.34.45 UTC+1 skrev
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org:
Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote in
news:03e9b039-5704-4161...@googlegroups.com:
yes, it looks and fits like a type A but has more connections
(that only connect in the blue USB 3.0 SuperSpeed sockets)


USB1 2 and 3 have the same number of pins.

slowspeed,fullspeed and high speed all use the same pins,
Superspeed uses extra pins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#/media/File:Connector_USB_3_I
MGP6024_wp.jpg

That is USB3.1 \"Superspeed\"
The original USB3 did not have the extra pins.

So instead of jumping a whole number, they made it 3.1

So USB3 and USB3.1 are two different animals, but both are backward
compatible with the slower form factors.

 

[server]

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in news:13c69d8a-7b1b-
40f2-b91b-138c15089217n@googlegroups.com:

Here, this will help you understand.

Oh I understand it. I posted a response.

I started decades ago on RS-232 9 pin serial connections and POTS
modems.

I watched this new SERIAL standard since it started in \'96.
And used it and its many iterations since.

As you have as well I am sure.

 

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[John Doe]

Always Wrong is so cute when it\'s mad...

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[Edward Hernandez]

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The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
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CLUELESS...

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incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 13 Jan 2022 09:20:22 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <sroqsm$qak$5@dont-email.me>.

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[Edward Hernandez]

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<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

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The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
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incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 13 Jan 2022 10:05:48 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <sroths$22t$1@dont-email.me>.

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[Rick C]

On Thursday, January 13, 2022 at 2:26:41 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote in
news:a87b3f35-8421-4f8a...@googlegroups.com:
torsdag den 13. januar 2022 kl. 00.34.45 UTC+1 skrev
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org:
Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote in
news:03e9b039-5704-4161...@googlegroups.com:
yes, it looks and fits like a type A but has more connections
(that only connect in the blue USB 3.0 SuperSpeed sockets)


USB1 2 and 3 have the same number of pins.

slowspeed,fullspeed and high speed all use the same pins,
Superspeed uses extra pins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#/media/File:Connector_USB_3_I
MGP6024_wp.jpg

That is USB3.1 \"Superspeed\"
The original USB3 did not have the extra pins.

So instead of jumping a whole number, they made it 3.1

So USB3 and USB3.1 are two different animals, but both are backward
compatible with the slower form factors.

Are you the guy they call \"always wrong\"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#Pinouts

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[Rick C]

On Thursday, January 13, 2022 at 5:05:55 AM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:
> NOBODY likes this troll\'s contentless spam.

So not true. I love it. It brings a smile to my face every time.

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