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futura

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i have some dvd's and i think they must be NTSC format. my new sony dvd
player says it will play them but the picture is b&w and is flickery... is
my old Akai TV the problem? how do I get to view them?
Jason
 
Fiddle with the video display settings on the dvd player ;)

"futura" <no@no.no> wrote in message news:bkmtqa$16n$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au...
i have some dvd's and i think they must be NTSC format. my new sony dvd
player says it will play them but the picture is b&w and is flickery... is
my old Akai TV the problem? how do I get to view them?
Jason
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no change.... it says it plays ntsc and pal but it still wont respond to
"hold on/off while pressing pause...."


"Dr LG" <drlimegreen@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:bkmuuf$1ldj$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
Fiddle with the video display settings on the dvd player ;)

"futura" <no@no.no> wrote in message news:bkmtqa$16n$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au...
i have some dvd's and i think they must be NTSC format. my new sony dvd
player says it will play them but the picture is b&w and is flickery...
is
my old Akai TV the problem? how do I get to view them?
Jason
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Can u manually set pal NTSC or other? Trying every setting can't hurt. Also
check your cables some new TV's and DVD players have weird colours that vary
from the standard. Check that your not using componentry connections or
such. Some EU DVD players use one rca connection for 2 things and ortho it
sez video out u still have to change a setting in the menu.


"futura" <no@no.no> wrote in message news:bkn181$2es$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au...
no change.... it says it plays ntsc and pal but it still wont respond to
"hold on/off while pressing pause...."


"Dr LG" <drlimegreen@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:bkmuuf$1ldj$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
Fiddle with the video display settings on the dvd player ;)

"futura" <no@no.no> wrote in message
news:bkmtqa$16n$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au...
i have some dvd's and i think they must be NTSC format. my new sony
dvd
player says it will play them but the picture is b&w and is
flickery...
is
my old Akai TV the problem? how do I get to view them?
Jason
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not using comppnent connections(im using the standard yellow/red/white
plugs)
dvd player says it can playback ntsc/pal but ive read on google that unless
the tv plays ntsc im screwed.....
thanks anyway
jason


"Dr LG" <drlimegreen@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:bkn1h6$1m8l$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
Can u manually set pal NTSC or other? Trying every setting can't hurt.
Also
check your cables some new TV's and DVD players have weird colours that
vary
from the standard. Check that your not using componentry connections or
such. Some EU DVD players use one rca connection for 2 things and ortho it
sez video out u still have to change a setting in the menu.


"futura" <no@no.no> wrote in message news:bkn181$2es$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au...
no change.... it says it plays ntsc and pal but it still wont respond to
"hold on/off while pressing pause...."


"Dr LG" <drlimegreen@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:bkmuuf$1ldj$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
Fiddle with the video display settings on the dvd player ;)

"futura" <no@no.no> wrote in message
news:bkmtqa$16n$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au...
i have some dvd's and i think they must be NTSC format. my new sony
dvd
player says it will play them but the picture is b&w and is
flickery...
is
my old Akai TV the problem? how do I get to view them?
Jason
Click to expand...
 
"Clifford Heath" <cjh_nospam@managesoft.com> wrote in message
news:1064274643.126260@excalibur.osa.com.au...
futura wrote:
Can u manually set pal NTSC or other? Trying every setting can't hurt.

You can't change an NTSC DVD into a PAL one by fiddling the player
settings.

some you 'sort of' can. Friends have a JVC ( a fairly basic model) and you
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can force it to conver from NTSC to PAL, but what you actuall get is a PAL
signal at 60Hz. So on your older sets instead of monocrome scrolling across
the screen you get colour scrolling across the screen. As a result some
newer TVs that are not NTSC will work with this 'modified PAL' because they
can handle the faster scrolling rate.

my old Akai TV the problem?

Yes

how do I get to view them?

Get a newer TV.
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If you are in luck you can change the system to modified PAL ( you should
now see a colour picture scrolling) and if you have a vertical hold knob see
if you can stabilise the picture that way.

Hope this helps

Mike
 
"futura" <no@no.no> wrote in message news:bkmtqa$16n$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au...
i have some dvd's and i think they must be NTSC format. my new sony dvd
player says it will play them but the picture is b&w and is flickery... is
my old Akai TV the problem? how do I get to view them?
Click to expand...
you are correct to say that your DVD player will read NTSC discs, but it's
likely that the video output is also NTSC formatted. This means that your TV
will also need to be compatible with NTSC, otherwise you'll get what you are
seeing (ie B&W flickering pictures)

Solution: get a new TV
 
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:50:43 +1000, Clifford Heath
<cjh_nospam@managesoft.com> wrote:

futura wrote:
Can u manually set pal NTSC or other? Trying every setting can't hurt.

You can't change an NTSC DVD into a PAL one by fiddling the player settings.
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Most pioneer players and many others will output ntsc as pal60, 60Hz
refresh but coour at 4.43Mhz.

Others will drop frames from ntsc in order to get true pal50.
 
<David Sauer>


Others will drop frames from ntsc in order to get true pal50.
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** Hang on a minute David - DROP FRAME = true PAL 50
??????????

On what planet and on what cold day in hell ????





............... Phil
 
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:14:38 +1000, "Phil Allison"
<philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

David Sauer


Others will drop frames from ntsc in order to get true pal50.


** Hang on a minute David - DROP FRAME = true PAL 50
??????????
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Sure Phil, drop 1 in every 6 frames on NTSC

(NTSC = 30 frames, PAL = 25 frames).

and move the colour from 3.58 to 4.43 and voila. Results in a jerky
movie however there's a few players with that option.

http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Articles/Articles.asp
lists a few players, take note the NTSC / PAL conversion coloumn where
it states what format they're converted to. The list is now out of
date.
 
<David Sauer> wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:14:38 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


David Sauer


Others will drop frames from ntsc in order to get true pal50.


** Hang on a minute David - DROP FRAME = true PAL 50
??????????


Sure Phil, drop 1 in every 6 frames on NTSC

(NTSC = 30 frames, PAL = 25 frames).

and move the colour from 3.58 to 4.43 and voila. Results in a jerky
movie however there's a few players with that option.
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** Yes, my Sanyo DVD does it - and it looks absolutely HORRIBLE !!!!!!

NO ******* WAY that can be described as ..... "true PAL 50 ".

For that you need a digital standards converter.



.............. Phil
 
"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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David Sauer> wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:14:38 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


David Sauer


Others will drop frames from ntsc in order to get true pal50.


** Hang on a minute David - DROP FRAME = true PAL 50
??????????


Sure Phil, drop 1 in every 6 frames on NTSC

(NTSC = 30 frames, PAL = 25 frames).

and move the colour from 3.58 to 4.43 and voila. Results in a jerky
movie however there's a few players with that option.




** Yes, my Sanyo DVD does it - and it looks absolutely HORRIBLE
!!!!!!

NO ******* WAY that can be described as ..... "true PAL 50
".

For that you need a digital standards converter.



............. Phil
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Didn't know they did that. Might have to find an NTSC & see what happens
when I play it back using the PAL output setting on the DVD player.You'd
think they would work out something better than dropping 10 frames/sec,
considering persistence of vision is what? 30 fps. Does it have any effect
on the audio?..Hell....why not just slow the whole lot down to 50Hz & get an
extra few minutes of viewing time :)

James
 
"James Horne" <jhorne@datafastANTISPAM.net.au

Didn't know they did that. Might have to find an NTSC & see what happens
when I play it back using the PAL output setting on the DVD player.You'd
think they would work out something better than dropping 10 frames/sec,
considering persistence of vision is what? 30 fps. Does it have any effect
on the audio?..Hell....why not just slow the whole lot down to 50Hz & get
an
extra few minutes of viewing time :)
Click to expand...

** 20 % reduction in speed and pitch is ***NOT*** acceptable.

Frame dropping makes all movement look jerky - like there is a fast
strobe light in the room or something.

Some folk seem to be blissfully unaware of it until someone points it
out - then they cannot see anything else.





........... Phil
 
***NOT*** acceptable. my ass. It would be perfect for slow people... huh?

"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"James Horne" <jhorne@datafastANTISPAM.net.au


Didn't know they did that. Might have to find an NTSC & see what happens
when I play it back using the PAL output setting on the DVD player.You'd
think they would work out something better than dropping 10 frames/sec,
considering persistence of vision is what? 30 fps. Does it have any
effect
on the audio?..Hell....why not just slow the whole lot down to 50Hz &
get
an
extra few minutes of viewing time :)


** 20 % reduction in speed and pitch is ***NOT*** acceptable.

Frame dropping makes all movement look jerky - like there is a fast
strobe light in the room or something.

Some folk seem to be blissfully unaware of it until someone points it
out - then they cannot see anything else.





.......... Phil
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