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Michael Terrell
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Is Bill Sloman a troll? Answer Yes or No.
Yes!
Yes!
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amdx
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On 1/8/2020 9:34 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
Phil was kind and didn't point out names, I did call out Bill
when he deflected.
Cursitor is the lunch lady.
Mikek
Is Bill Sloman a troll? Answer Yes or No.
Yes!
Phil was kind and didn't point out names, I did call out Bill
when he deflected.
Cursitor is the lunch lady.
Mikek
Guest
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 07:34:13 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell
<terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:
It's sad that some people's lives seem to consist of an endless stream
of conflict and insults.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
lunatic fringe electronics
<terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:
Is Bill Sloman a troll? Answer Yes or No.
Yes!
It's sad that some people's lives seem to consist of an endless stream
of conflict and insults.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
lunatic fringe electronics
Guest
What does it matter if he is a troll. This group has far more interesting content than any moderated forum. I ignore him 90 percent of the time but why would i want anyone here to leave? I mean you really cannot foul up the joint and the trolls here are often on topic so why even the discussion on trolls. Go find a very boring moderated forum
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Cursitor Doom
Guest
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:15:54 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
> Cursitor is the lunch lady.
I just got somehow drawn into it. Normally Bill is in my KF and only
makes rare appearances from time to time when his filter expires, but
recently I switched to a different newsreader and it took me a while
longer to find the relevant settings. Looking back on our exchanges I
can see now what I didn't see at the time and how it must have looked.
So I guess I should apologize for polluting the waters here. Sorry
all!
--
"The BEST Deal is NO DEAL"
> Cursitor is the lunch lady.
I just got somehow drawn into it. Normally Bill is in my KF and only
makes rare appearances from time to time when his filter expires, but
recently I switched to a different newsreader and it took me a while
longer to find the relevant settings. Looking back on our exchanges I
can see now what I didn't see at the time and how it must have looked.
So I guess I should apologize for polluting the waters here. Sorry
all!
--
"The BEST Deal is NO DEAL"
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Phil Hobbs
Guest
On 2020-01-08 12:11, bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:
I for one don't want Bill to leave, I just want the Bill of 20 years ago
back again. A few years ago I had a try at persuasion, but it didn't help.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
What does it matter if he is a troll. This group has far more interesting content than any moderated forum. I ignore him 90 percent of the time but why would i want anyone here to leave? I mean you really cannot foul up the joint and the trolls here are often on topic so why even the discussion on trolls. Go find a very boring moderated forum
I for one don't want Bill to leave, I just want the Bill of 20 years ago
back again. A few years ago I had a try at persuasion, but it didn't help.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
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Rick C
Guest
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:11:10 PM UTC-5, bule...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> What does it matter if he is a troll. This group has far more interesting content than any moderated forum. I ignore him 90 percent of the time but why would i want anyone here to leave? I mean you really cannot foul up the joint and the trolls here are often on topic so why even the discussion on trolls. Go find a very boring moderated forum
People don't like Bill because he is a troll. But that doesn't mean he's not right. He often has good insight and knowledge. But people don't like when he is right and they bicker with him making them even more unhappy.
The real irony is that nearly everyone who argues with him is also trolling.. At the top of that is JL of course along with Mr. Mike "I know what I like an YOU ain't it" Terrell. God, I guess the guy has a crappy life at this point, but really? You have to be that pissed off and sour? I know when I was gimping around I didn't take it out on people. But he does seem to have it a lot worse and has little prospect of it ever improving.
Whatever. This group is what it is. Most of the crankies here are getting old. In another 5 or 10 years they will all be dead or won't be able to type anymore.
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Rick C.
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> What does it matter if he is a troll. This group has far more interesting content than any moderated forum. I ignore him 90 percent of the time but why would i want anyone here to leave? I mean you really cannot foul up the joint and the trolls here are often on topic so why even the discussion on trolls. Go find a very boring moderated forum
People don't like Bill because he is a troll. But that doesn't mean he's not right. He often has good insight and knowledge. But people don't like when he is right and they bicker with him making them even more unhappy.
The real irony is that nearly everyone who argues with him is also trolling.. At the top of that is JL of course along with Mr. Mike "I know what I like an YOU ain't it" Terrell. God, I guess the guy has a crappy life at this point, but really? You have to be that pissed off and sour? I know when I was gimping around I didn't take it out on people. But he does seem to have it a lot worse and has little prospect of it ever improving.
Whatever. This group is what it is. Most of the crankies here are getting old. In another 5 or 10 years they will all be dead or won't be able to type anymore.
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Rick C.
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amdx
Guest
On 1/8/2020 11:16 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Mikek
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:15:54 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
Cursitor is the lunch lady.
I just got somehow drawn into it. Normally Bill is in my KF and only
makes rare appearances from time to time when his filter expires, but
recently I switched to a different newsreader and it took me a while
longer to find the relevant settings. Looking back on our exchanges I
can see now what I didn't see at the time and how it must have looked.
So I guess I should apologize for polluting the waters here. Sorry
all!
You are forgiven, carry on.
Mikek
Guest
On Wed, 08 Jan 2020 17:16:07 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:
The most effective way to deal with him is to ignore him.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:15:54 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
Cursitor is the lunch lady.
I just got somehow drawn into it. Normally Bill is in my KF and only
makes rare appearances from time to time when his filter expires, but
recently I switched to a different newsreader and it took me a while
longer to find the relevant settings. Looking back on our exchanges I
can see now what I didn't see at the time and how it must have looked.
So I guess I should apologize for polluting the waters here. Sorry
all!
The most effective way to deal with him is to ignore him.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
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Rick C
Guest
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:55:43 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
It's funny how the Lark troll responds to people. If you don't show adequate reverence to him he wants to banish you from the land. It's not enough to ignore them or even to kill file them. He doesn't want anyone else to respond to them either. The Lark Troll would like to have his unfavorites shunned.
The Lark troll is a strange beast.
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Rick C.
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On Wed, 08 Jan 2020 17:16:07 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:15:54 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
Cursitor is the lunch lady.
I just got somehow drawn into it. Normally Bill is in my KF and only
makes rare appearances from time to time when his filter expires, but
recently I switched to a different newsreader and it took me a while
longer to find the relevant settings. Looking back on our exchanges I
can see now what I didn't see at the time and how it must have looked.
So I guess I should apologize for polluting the waters here. Sorry
all!
The most effective way to deal with him is to ignore him.
It's funny how the Lark troll responds to people. If you don't show adequate reverence to him he wants to banish you from the land. It's not enough to ignore them or even to kill file them. He doesn't want anyone else to respond to them either. The Lark Troll would like to have his unfavorites shunned.
The Lark troll is a strange beast.
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Guest
Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote in news:78994733-
19f6-461f-98e6-b3987f7d5fb5@googlegroups.com:
Question: Does a person whom makes a post like this "poll" into
Usenet qualify as one of the most abusive troll forms
in the forum?
Answer: YES!
19f6-461f-98e6-b3987f7d5fb5@googlegroups.com:
Is Bill Sloman a troll? Answer Yes or No.
Yes!
Question: Does a person whom makes a post like this "poll" into
Usenet qualify as one of the most abusive troll forms
in the forum?
Answer: YES!
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Michael Terrell
Guest
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:55:43 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
I try to ignore him, but to see six or more posts in a row in his name takes a lot of scrolling. At one time he did post interesting things, but everything I scroll past has him insulting someone at the start. If you despise everyone, why do you do nothing but stir up shit? Just like the Linux character? This used to be a place that was worth spending a couple hours a day to learn new ideas, hear about modern components, along with methods to design and lay out products. It has descended into a petty place, with a handful of people who are bent on destroying it. Look what happened to news:alt.engineering.electrical a few years back. Trolls and spammers turned it into a cesspool, and some of the ones involved are now on this group.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.engineering.electrical
On Wed, 08 Jan 2020 17:16:07 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:15:54 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
Cursitor is the lunch lady.
I just got somehow drawn into it. Normally Bill is in my KF and only
makes rare appearances from time to time when his filter expires, but
recently I switched to a different newsreader and it took me a while
longer to find the relevant settings. Looking back on our exchanges I
can see now what I didn't see at the time and how it must have looked.
So I guess I should apologize for polluting the waters here. Sorry
all!
The most effective way to deal with him is to ignore him.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
I try to ignore him, but to see six or more posts in a row in his name takes a lot of scrolling. At one time he did post interesting things, but everything I scroll past has him insulting someone at the start. If you despise everyone, why do you do nothing but stir up shit? Just like the Linux character? This used to be a place that was worth spending a couple hours a day to learn new ideas, hear about modern components, along with methods to design and lay out products. It has descended into a petty place, with a handful of people who are bent on destroying it. Look what happened to news:alt.engineering.electrical a few years back. Trolls and spammers turned it into a cesspool, and some of the ones involved are now on this group.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.engineering.electrical
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Rick C
Guest
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 2:13:09 PM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
It's not hard to ignore people. Just ignore them. Instead you start a thread about how you want to ignore someone. Literally the exact opposite!!! No wonder you have so much trouble in this group.
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Rick C.
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On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:55:43 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jan 2020 17:16:07 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:15:54 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
Cursitor is the lunch lady.
I just got somehow drawn into it. Normally Bill is in my KF and only
makes rare appearances from time to time when his filter expires, but
recently I switched to a different newsreader and it took me a while
longer to find the relevant settings. Looking back on our exchanges I
can see now what I didn't see at the time and how it must have looked.
So I guess I should apologize for polluting the waters here. Sorry
all!
The most effective way to deal with him is to ignore him.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
I try to ignore him, but to see six or more posts in a row in his name takes a lot of scrolling. At one time he did post interesting things, but everything I scroll past has him insulting someone at the start. If you despise everyone, why do you do nothing but stir up shit? Just like the Linux character? This used to be a place that was worth spending a couple hours a day to learn new ideas, hear about modern components, along with methods to design and lay out products. It has descended into a petty place, with a handful of people who are bent on destroying it. Look what happened to news:alt.engineering.electrical a few years back. Trolls and spammers turned it into a cesspool, and some of the ones involved are now on this group.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.engineering.electrical
It's not hard to ignore people. Just ignore them. Instead you start a thread about how you want to ignore someone. Literally the exact opposite!!! No wonder you have so much trouble in this group.
--
Rick C.
-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
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Tom Gardner
Guest
On 08/01/20 15:34, Michael Terrell wrote:
No, in the traditional usenet meaning.
He often makes knowledgeable and perceptive posts.
It also appears his text editor has certain comments
encoded as easily invoked keystrokes that are then
macro expanded. That detracts from his helpful posts.
Alternatively, if he is a troll, then so are /many/
other posters on this forum.
Is Bill Sloman a troll? Answer Yes or No.
Yes!
No, in the traditional usenet meaning.
He often makes knowledgeable and perceptive posts.
It also appears his text editor has certain comments
encoded as easily invoked keystrokes that are then
macro expanded. That detracts from his helpful posts.
Alternatively, if he is a troll, then so are /many/
other posters on this forum.
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dcaster@krl.org
Guest
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 3:06:21 PM UTC-5, Tom Gardner wrote:
+1 or maybe +2
Dan
On 08/01/20 15:34, Michael Terrell wrote:
Is Bill Sloman a troll? Answer Yes or No.
Yes!
No, in the traditional usenet meaning.
He often makes knowledgeable and perceptive posts.
It also appears his text editor has certain comments
encoded as easily invoked keystrokes that are then
macro expanded. That detracts from his helpful posts.
Alternatively, if he is a troll, then so are /many/
other posters on this forum.
+1 or maybe +2
Dan
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Clifford Heath
Guest
On 9/1/20 4:55 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Instead of a kill-file, I set certain authors as "assume already read".
That way I get to see their posts only when someone responds. If it's a
bicker-thread, I can kill-subthread and not lose the main thread. I find
this works very well.
Bill does several things that make his posts especially unpleasant:
* He responds to an individual in the third person, as if they are
unworthy of his time (yet he is profligate in wasting everyone's time
with such posts, thereby demeaning by implication every reader here),
* He frequently mentions the demerits of other individuals not yet
involved in the current thread, thereby expanding the field of battle,
* He details surmised personal characteristics or background which are
entirely irrelevant to the topic or on which he has no definite
information, as if he is some kind of all-seeing oracle.
I can handle criticism, and I can handle seeing him criticise others -
but only where it is clearly correct and relevant to the topic.
Sadly that is very rarely the case.
Bill, if you're reading this, do a little review of your posting history
and exercise a little self-reflection before replying. Apply some of
your much-vaunted psycho-analysis to your own posts, and I think you'll
see I have been kind, fair and accurate. I certainly tried to.
Clifford Heath.
On Wed, 08 Jan 2020 17:16:07 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:15:54 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
Cursitor is the lunch lady.
I just got somehow drawn into it. Normally Bill is in my KF and only
makes rare appearances from time to time when his filter expires, but
recently I switched to a different newsreader and it took me a while
longer to find the relevant settings. Looking back on our exchanges I
can see now what I didn't see at the time and how it must have looked.
So I guess I should apologize for polluting the waters here. Sorry
all!
The most effective way to deal with him is to ignore him.
Instead of a kill-file, I set certain authors as "assume already read".
That way I get to see their posts only when someone responds. If it's a
bicker-thread, I can kill-subthread and not lose the main thread. I find
this works very well.
Bill does several things that make his posts especially unpleasant:
* He responds to an individual in the third person, as if they are
unworthy of his time (yet he is profligate in wasting everyone's time
with such posts, thereby demeaning by implication every reader here),
* He frequently mentions the demerits of other individuals not yet
involved in the current thread, thereby expanding the field of battle,
* He details surmised personal characteristics or background which are
entirely irrelevant to the topic or on which he has no definite
information, as if he is some kind of all-seeing oracle.
I can handle criticism, and I can handle seeing him criticise others -
but only where it is clearly correct and relevant to the topic.
Sadly that is very rarely the case.
Bill, if you're reading this, do a little review of your posting history
and exercise a little self-reflection before replying. Apply some of
your much-vaunted psycho-analysis to your own posts, and I think you'll
see I have been kind, fair and accurate. I certainly tried to.
Clifford Heath.
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Bill Sloman
Guest
On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 3:40:26 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Would an endless stream of flattery make John Larkin happier and less likely to insult everybody who doesn't take him as seriously as he feels he deserves?
It would be a difficult experiment to carry through. About the only feature where he does excel is in having a high opinion of himself, and being a world leader in self-deception requires out-doing people like Donald Trump.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 07:34:13 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell
terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:
Is Bill Sloman a troll? Answer Yes or No.
Yes!
It's sad that some people's lives seem to consist of an endless stream
of conflict and insults.
Would an endless stream of flattery make John Larkin happier and less likely to insult everybody who doesn't take him as seriously as he feels he deserves?
It would be a difficult experiment to carry through. About the only feature where he does excel is in having a high opinion of himself, and being a world leader in self-deception requires out-doing people like Donald Trump.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman
Guest
On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 4:16:16 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Cursitor Doom is a card-carrying troll, unrelieved by any kind of technical contribution. He does post electronics-based questions from time to time, but at a very low level, and doesn't seem to make much sense of the responses he gets.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:15:54 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
Cursitor is the lunch lady.
I just got somehow drawn into it. Normally Bill is in my KF and only
makes rare appearances from time to time when his filter expires, but
recently I switched to a different newsreader and it took me a while
longer to find the relevant settings. Looking back on our exchanges I
can see now what I didn't see at the time and how it must have looked.
So I guess I should apologize for polluting the waters here. Sorry
all!
Cursitor Doom is a card-carrying troll, unrelieved by any kind of technical contribution. He does post electronics-based questions from time to time, but at a very low level, and doesn't seem to make much sense of the responses he gets.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman
Guest
On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 4:34:41 AM UTC+11, Phil Hobbs wrote:
The Bill of twenty years ago took John Larkin more seriously, Tony Williams and I had one of our private e-mail conversations about him, and gave him the benefit of the doubt at the time. Twenty years have managed to erase most of that doubt (and Tony Williams too, which is sad).
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On 2020-01-08 12:11, bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:
What does it matter if he is a troll. This group has far more interesting content than any moderated forum. I ignore him 90 percent of the time but why would i want anyone here to leave? I mean you really cannot foul up the joint and the trolls here are often on topic so why even the discussion on trolls. Go find a very boring moderated forum
I for one don't want Bill to leave, I just want the Bill of 20 years ago
back again. A few years ago I had a try at persuasion, but it didn't help.
The Bill of twenty years ago took John Larkin more seriously, Tony Williams and I had one of our private e-mail conversations about him, and gave him the benefit of the doubt at the time. Twenty years have managed to erase most of that doubt (and Tony Williams too, which is sad).
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman
Guest
On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 4:47:35 AM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
Cursitor Doom's crimes are unforgivable - anybody who posts links to articles in Russia Today, The Daily Mail and ZeroHedge is guilty of polluting the group with irrelevant misinformation.
The fact that this kind of nonsense appeals to him is no excuse for inflicting it on the rest of us.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
On 1/8/2020 11:16 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:15:54 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
Cursitor is the lunch lady.
I just got somehow drawn into it. Normally Bill is in my KF and only
makes rare appearances from time to time when his filter expires, but
recently I switched to a different newsreader and it took me a while
longer to find the relevant settings. Looking back on our exchanges I
can see now what I didn't see at the time and how it must have looked.
So I guess I should apologize for polluting the waters here. Sorry
all!
You are forgiven, carry on.
Cursitor Doom's crimes are unforgivable - anybody who posts links to articles in Russia Today, The Daily Mail and ZeroHedge is guilty of polluting the group with irrelevant misinformation.
The fact that this kind of nonsense appeals to him is no excuse for inflicting it on the rest of us.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney