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On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:45:20 +0100, Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>
wrote:
I suspect he knows more about electronics than you do.
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wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 15:57:26 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com,
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:
It can\'t. Maybe that yellow disk is not a capacitor.
Maybe that PROVEN clinically insane attention whore is just a trolling piece
of shit, senile twit? <VBG
I suspect he knows more about electronics than you do.
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I yam what I yam - Popeye
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:43:43 +0100, Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>
wrote:
Do you know anything about electronics?
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I yam what I yam - Popeye
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:11:04 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com,
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding senile twit, babbled again:
You could
Think hard about it
LOL Troll-feeding senile asshole still hasn\'t checked what\'s going on!
Do you know anything about electronics?
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I yam what I yam - Popeye
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:41:57 +0100, Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>
wrote:
Do you own an ohmmeter?
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I yam what I yam - Popeye
wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 15:59:33 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com,
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:
Try an ohmmeter.
Try not to play that clinically insane troll\'s game, senile twit! <tsk
Do you own an ohmmeter?
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I yam what I yam - Popeye
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Peeler
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 07:47:20 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com,
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:
You poor troll-feeding senile idiot STILL didn\'t get it! <BG>
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:
Maybe that PROVEN clinically insane attention whore is just a trolling piece
of shit, senile twit? <VBG
I suspect he knows more about electronics than you do.
You poor troll-feeding senile idiot STILL didn\'t get it! <BG>
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 17:37:59 +0100, Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>
wrote:
Confirmed.
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I yam what I yam - Popeye
wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 07:47:20 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com,
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:
Maybe that PROVEN clinically insane attention whore is just a trolling piece
of shit, senile twit? <VBG
I suspect he knows more about electronics than you do.
You poor troll-feeding senile idiot STILL didn\'t get it! <BG
Confirmed.
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I yam what I yam - Popeye
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Peeler
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:36:44 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com,
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding senile twit, babbled again:
Do you know anything about the troll who you keep supporting, you demented
senile twit? <BG>
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding senile twit, babbled again:
LOL Troll-feeding senile asshole still hasn\'t checked what\'s going on!
Do you know anything about electronics?
Do you know anything about the troll who you keep supporting, you demented
senile twit? <BG>
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Peeler
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:37:29 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com,
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding senile twit, babbled again:
wrote:
Do you have any pills against senility, troll-feeding senile asshole? TAKE
them!
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding senile twit, babbled again:
wrote:
Try not to play that clinically insane troll\'s game, senile twit! <tsk
Do you own an ohmmeter?
Do you have any pills against senility, troll-feeding senile asshole? TAKE
them!
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Peeler
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:15:31 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com,
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding senile twit, babbled again:
wrote:
Your senility, yes!
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding senile twit, babbled again:
wrote:
You poor troll-feeding senile idiot STILL didn\'t get it! <BG
Confirmed.
Your senility, yes!
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Carlos E.R.
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On 2022-02-14 03:58, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Yes. With a charger as you described, yes.
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Cheers, Carlos.
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 00:54:02 -0000, williamwright
wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
On 14/02/2022 00:47, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Unless NiCads are vastly different to car batteries, one shorted cell
makes a hell of a lot more current flow.
They are vastly different.
Do they not both have a very low internal resistance? Therefore
connecting a 10V battery to a 12V charger makes too much current flow?
Yes. With a charger as you described, yes.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
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Peeler
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 21:04:42 +0100, Carlos E.R., yet another brain dead,
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:
> Yes. With a charger as you described, yes.
Another demented senile asshole who doesn\'t get what\'s going on! LOL
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:
> Yes. With a charger as you described, yes.
Another demented senile asshole who doesn\'t get what\'s going on! LOL
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John Larkin
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:30:52 +0100, Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>
wrote:
I\'ll take that answer as \"no\". Or maybe \"what\'s an ohmmeter?\"
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If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:37:29 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com,
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding senile twit, babbled again:
wrote:
Try not to play that clinically insane troll\'s game, senile twit! <tsk
Do you own an ohmmeter?
Do you have any pills against senility, troll-feeding senile asshole? TAKE
them!
I\'ll take that answer as \"no\". Or maybe \"what\'s an ohmmeter?\"
--
If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
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Peeler
Guest
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 13:40:46 -0800, John Larkin, another demented senile
asshole, blathered:
I\'m happy to see that you felt PERSONALLY addressed when I mentioned \"pills
against senility\", senile asshole! <BG>
asshole, blathered:
Do you have any pills against senility, troll-feeding senile asshole? TAKE
them!
I\'ll take that answer as \"no\". Or maybe \"what\'s an ohmmeter?\"
I\'m happy to see that you felt PERSONALLY addressed when I mentioned \"pills
against senility\", senile asshole! <BG>
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Dave Platt
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In article <op.1hjp1807mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>,
Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
I don\'t believe that it could.
My guess is that schematic misinterprets the nature of the yellow
disc. I suspect that it\'s not a capacitor at all, but is a
positive-temperature-coefficient thermistor - a \"soft fuse\". If the
output (to the battery) is accidentally short-circuited, the high
current flow through the PTC will cause it to heat up, increasing its
resistance, causing it to heat up even faster, causing its resistance
to increase even more... and thus limiting the current flow through
the short circuit. These PTCs usually have a \"hold current\" (which
they will allow to pass for an unlimited amount of time, at room
temperature) and a \"trip current\" which will heat them enough to cause
them to limit the current.
Since we don\'t have a profile view of this component and can\'t see
the markings, I can\'t tell for sure.
Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
https://imgur.com/a/b8l5qKQ
Look at the circuit diagram. The positive of the battery is only connected through a capacitor.
How can a capacitor possibly pass DC current to allow the battery to charge?
I don\'t believe that it could.
My guess is that schematic misinterprets the nature of the yellow
disc. I suspect that it\'s not a capacitor at all, but is a
positive-temperature-coefficient thermistor - a \"soft fuse\". If the
output (to the battery) is accidentally short-circuited, the high
current flow through the PTC will cause it to heat up, increasing its
resistance, causing it to heat up even faster, causing its resistance
to increase even more... and thus limiting the current flow through
the short circuit. These PTCs usually have a \"hold current\" (which
they will allow to pass for an unlimited amount of time, at room
temperature) and a \"trip current\" which will heat them enough to cause
them to limit the current.
Since we don\'t have a profile view of this component and can\'t see
the markings, I can\'t tell for sure.
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Peeler
Guest
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:13:04 -0800, Dave Platt, yet another mentally
deficient, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:
you senile assholes suck him off as often as he wants to be sucked off by
one of you, senile cretin!
deficient, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:
I believe the trolling Scottish wanker and attention whore can make ANY ofI don\'t believe that it could.
you senile assholes suck him off as often as he wants to be sucked off by
one of you, senile cretin!
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Phil Allison
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Dave Platt wrote:
=============
** You been sleeping ?
That was obvious two days ago.
** The trade name is \" Polyfuse \".
They show very low cold resistances and will snap to a high value when hot.
Used for loudspeaker, battery pak and transformer protection.
Slow acting but self resetting, many times.
...... Phil
=============
My guess is that schematic misinterprets the nature of the yellow
disc.
** You been sleeping ?
That was obvious two days ago.
I suspect that it\'s not a capacitor at all, but is a
positive-temperature-coefficient thermistor - a \"soft fuse\".
** The trade name is \" Polyfuse \".
They show very low cold resistances and will snap to a high value when hot.
Used for loudspeaker, battery pak and transformer protection.
Slow acting but self resetting, many times.
...... Phil
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Rod Speed
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 10:20:58 +1100, Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> wrote:
Whoops, the gutless stalker has been kicked out of yet another usenet
server, again.
Whoops, the gutless stalker has been kicked out of yet another usenet
server, again.
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John Larkin
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:31:27 +0100, Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>
wrote:
Generating lame, profane insults is a common skill set. How\'s the pay?
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If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:15:31 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com,
another mentally deficient, troll-feeding senile twit, babbled again:
wrote:
You poor troll-feeding senile idiot STILL didn\'t get it! <BG
Confirmed.
Your senility, yes!
Generating lame, profane insults is a common skill set. How\'s the pay?
--
If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
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Commander Kinsey
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I assume you mean a capacitive dropper? I have an LED room light like that. That would be the capacitor limiting current in the AC part, but in this case it was in the DC part. I\'ve been told it isn\'t a capacitor, but an automatic resetting fuse, which looks exactly like a ceramic disk capacitor.
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:30:20 -0000, Brian Gaff (Sofa) <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:30:20 -0000, Brian Gaff (Sofa) <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Its called a lossless charger. I encountered something like it in an old
pifco charging circuit in a torch. From what I could see one rectifier one
large capacitor and a small bleed resistor across the mains pins was all
supposed to charge two flat Ni-cads, and it was fine until the capacitor got
leaky, and the room filled with nasty smelling smoke.
I\'m just guessing here, since I cannot see your circuit, but it used to be a
very common practice for small rechargeable devices.
Brian
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Commander Kinsey
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:22:30 -0000, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
It\'s not going to be used anymore anyway. It was for NiCads (which are too old and tired), and I\'m changing the battery packs to LiIon, which I\'ll just charge form a bench supply.
On 2/13/2022 5:33 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:55:51 -0000, Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 3:33:49 PM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://imgur.com/a/b8l5qKQ
Look at the circuit diagram. The positive of the battery is only connected through a capacitor. How can a capacitor possibly pass DC current to allow the battery to charge?
Maybe it\'s an AC battery? They are very useful for grid storage applications as long as you can control the phase.
What makes you think that component is a capacitor? I\'m assuming you drew the schematic.
I\'ve learned from someone on Quora that it\'s actually a PTC Fuse - a resettable semiconductor fuse.
The second image in the link shows a brown disk, which I thought was a ceramic capacitor. Looks like it\'s to stop a busted battery from being overcharged when a cell has died.
The shape of the edge of the device,
hints that it is not a disc capacitor.
One reason for that, is the material the yellow
thing is dipped in, is a hell of a lot harder,
than the softer stuff used on the older disc caps.
The yellow material might be intended to be
flame proof or the like.
As a connoisseur of circuits, I bet you\'ve already
made up your mind as to whether this circuit is a
good idea or a bad idea...
It\'s not going to be used anymore anyway. It was for NiCads (which are too old and tired), and I\'m changing the battery packs to LiIon, which I\'ll just charge form a bench supply.