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On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 1:30:53 PM UTC-6, amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
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It\'s easy to see the narrator\'s point.
I wonder if the potential customer could tell the dealer \"throw this in for a life time or see ya later, bye\".
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s only for remotely starting the engine. Well, we have no engine to
start with an EV.
dean...@gmail.com wrote:
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s easy to see the narrator\'s point. I wonder if the potential
customer could tell the dealer \"throw this in for a life time or see ya
later, bye\".
This reminds me of the organization promoting right to repair. This is
mostly about some egregious manufacturers such as John Deere, yes, John
Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be made to equipment owned by
the farmer unless those repairs were made by the authorized service
center.
Ed Lee wrote:
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s only for remotely starting the engine. Well, we have no engine to
start with an EV.
Does an electric CAR engine need warming up?
Ricksy wrote:
dean...@gmail.com wrote:
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s easy to see the narrator\'s point. I wonder if the potential
customer could tell the dealer \"throw this in for a life time or see ya
later, bye\".
This reminds me of the organization promoting right to repair. This is
mostly about some egregious manufacturers such as John Deere, yes, John
Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be made to equipment owned by
the farmer unless those repairs were made by the authorized service
center.
That\'s a misrepresentation. Customers are not \"disallowed\". Warranty
service can be refused if the product has been worked on by a third-party.
Nothing wrong with that. Taking responsibility is part of a warrantee.
Seems pretty simple... If a third-party works on it, the company is no
longer responsible for how it works.
Ricksy wrote:
dean...@gmail.com wrote:
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s easy to see the narrator\'s point. I wonder if the potential
customer could tell the dealer \"throw this in for a life time or see ya
later, bye\".
This reminds me of the organization promoting right to repair. This is
mostly about some egregious manufacturers such as John Deere, yes, John
Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be made to equipment owned by
the farmer unless those repairs were made by the authorized service
center.
That\'s a misrepresentation. Customers are not \"disallowed\". Warranty
service can be refused if the product has been worked on by a third-party..
Nothing wrong with that. Taking responsibility is part of a warrantee.
Seems pretty simple... If a third-party works on it, the company is no
longer responsible for how it works.
John Doe wrote:
Ricksy wrote:
dean...@gmail.com wrote:
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s easy to see the narrator\'s point. I wonder if the potential
customer could tell the dealer \"throw this in for a life time or see
ya later, bye\".
This reminds me of the organization promoting right to repair. This
is mostly about some egregious manufacturers such as John Deere, yes,
John Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be made to equipment
owned by the farmer unless those repairs were made by the authorized
service center.
That\'s a misrepresentation. Customers are not \"disallowed\". Warranty
service can be refused if the product has been worked on by a
third-party. Nothing wrong with that. Taking responsibility is part of
a warrantee.
Seems pretty simple... If a third-party works on it, the company is no
longer responsible for how it works.
No misrepresentation. You just can\'t read. Who said anything about a
warranty?
lørdag den 11. december 2021 kl. 22.27.29 UTC+1 skrev John Doe:
Ricksy wrote:
dean...@gmail.com wrote:
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s easy to see the narrator\'s point. I wonder if the potential
customer could tell the dealer \"throw this in for a life time or see y
a
later, bye\".
This reminds me of the organization promoting right to repair. This is
mostly about some egregious manufacturers such as John Deere, yes, John
Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be made to equipment owned b
y
the farmer unless those repairs were made by the authorized service
center.
That\'s a misrepresentation. Customers are not \"disallowed\". Warranty
service can be refused if the product has been worked on by a third-party
.
Nothing wrong with that. Taking responsibility is part of a warrantee.
Seems pretty simple... If a third-party works on it, the company is no
longer responsible for how it works.
for decades that not been the case in the EU, car manufacturers cannot
deny responsibility just because simple service wasn\'t done by a dealer
Ricksy wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Ricksy wrote:
dean...@gmail.com wrote:
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s easy to see the narrator\'s point. I wonder if the potential
customer could tell the dealer \"throw this in for a life time or see
ya later, bye\".
This reminds me of the organization promoting right to repair. This
is mostly about some egregious manufacturers such as John Deere, yes,
John Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be made to equipment
owned by the farmer unless those repairs were made by the authorized
service center.
That\'s a misrepresentation. Customers are not \"disallowed\". Warranty
service can be refused if the product has been worked on by a
third-party. Nothing wrong with that. Taking responsibility is part of
a warrantee.
Seems pretty simple... If a third-party works on it, the company is no
longer responsible for how it works.
No misrepresentation. You just can\'t read. Who said anything about a
warranty?
Then what is Ricksy referring to? John Deere won\'t sell anymore equipment
to the farmer?
https://ec.europa.eu/competition/sectors/motor_vehicles/legislation/mv_faq_en.pdfLasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
lørdag den 11. december 2021 kl. 22.27.29 UTC+1 skrev John Doe:
Ricksy wrote:
dean...@gmail.com wrote:
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s easy to see the narrator\'s point. I wonder if the potential
customer could tell the dealer \"throw this in for a life time or see y
a
later, bye\".
This reminds me of the organization promoting right to repair. This is
mostly about some egregious manufacturers such as John Deere, yes, John
Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be made to equipment owned b
y
the farmer unless those repairs were made by the authorized service
center.
That\'s a misrepresentation. Customers are not \"disallowed\". Warranty
service can be refused if the product has been worked on by a third-party
.
Nothing wrong with that. Taking responsibility is part of a warrantee.
Seems pretty simple... If a third-party works on it, the company is no
longer responsible for how it works.
for decades that not been the case in the EU, car manufacturers cannot
deny responsibility just because simple service wasn\'t done by a dealer
What\'s the \"EU\"?
Got any citations to \"EU\" law for that claim?
John Doe wrote:
Ricksy wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Ricksy wrote:
dean...@gmail.com wrote:
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s easy to see the narrator\'s point. I wonder if the potential
customer could tell the dealer \"throw this in for a life time or see
ya later, bye\".
This reminds me of the organization promoting right to repair. This
is mostly about some egregious manufacturers such as John Deere, yes,
John Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be made to equipment
owned by the farmer unless those repairs were made by the authorized
service center.
That\'s a misrepresentation. Customers are not \"disallowed\". Warranty
service can be refused if the product has been worked on by a
third-party. Nothing wrong with that. Taking responsibility is part of
a warrantee.
Seems pretty simple... If a third-party works on it, the company is no
longer responsible for how it works.
No misrepresentation. You just can\'t read. Who said anything about a
warranty?
Then what is Ricksy referring to? John Deere won\'t sell anymore equipment
to the farmer?
Go back to August 9. \"Right to Repair\".
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sÇ÷ndag den 12. december 2021 kl. 01.00.01 UTC+1 skrev John Doe:
Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
lÇ÷rdag den 11. december 2021 kl. 22.27.29 UTC+1 skrev John Doe:
Ricksy wrote:
dean...@gmail.com wrote:
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s easy to see the narrator\'s point. I wonder if the potential
customer could tell the dealer \"throw this in for a life time or se
e y
a
later, bye\".
This reminds me of the organization promoting right to repair. This
is
mostly about some egregious manufacturers such as John Deere, yes, J
ohn
Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be made to equipment owne
d b
y
the farmer unless those repairs were made by the authorized service
center.
That\'s a misrepresentation. Customers are not \"disallowed\". Warranty
service can be refused if the product has been worked on by a third-pa
rty
.
Nothing wrong with that. Taking responsibility is part of a warrantee.
Seems pretty simple... If a third-party works on it, the company is no
longer responsible for how it works.
for decades that not been the case in the EU, car manufacturers cannot
deny responsibility just because simple service wasn\'t done by a dealer
What\'s the \"EU\"?
Got any citations to \"EU\" law for that claim?
https://ec.europa.eu/competition/sectors/motor_vehicles/legislation/mv_faq_en.pdf
Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Ricksy wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Ricksy wrote:
dean...@gmail.com wrote:
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s easy to see the narrator\'s point. I wonder if the potential
customer could tell the dealer \"throw this in for a life time or see
ya later, bye\".
This reminds me of the organization promoting right to repair. This
is mostly about some egregious manufacturers such as John Deere, yes,
John Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be made to equipment
owned by the farmer unless those repairs were made by the authorized
service center.
That\'s a misrepresentation. Customers are not \"disallowed\". Warranty
service can be refused if the product has been worked on by a
third-party. Nothing wrong with that. Taking responsibility is part of
a warrantee.
Seems pretty simple... If a third-party works on it, the company is no
longer responsible for how it works.
No misrepresentation. You just can\'t read. Who said anything about a
warranty?
Then what is Ricksy referring to? John Deere won\'t sell anymore equipment
to the farmer?
Go back to August 9. \"Right to Repair\".
What???
Massachusetts law? Providing information about a car\'s system?
My contention is with \"John Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be
made\".
I guess the manufacturer could hide technical information. But usually the
mechanic knows that stuff. One would certainly hope the mechanic knows what
it\'s doing.
On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 6:15:45 PM UTC-6, John Doe wrote:
Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Ricksy wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Ricksy wrote:
dean...@gmail.com wrote:
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s easy to see the narrator\'s point. I wonder if the potential
customer could tell the dealer \"throw this in for a life time or see
ya later, bye\".
This reminds me of the organization promoting right to repair. This
is mostly about some egregious manufacturers such as John Deere, yes,
John Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be made to equipment
owned by the farmer unless those repairs were made by the authorized
service center.
That\'s a misrepresentation. Customers are not \"disallowed\". Warranty
service can be refused if the product has been worked on by a
third-party. Nothing wrong with that. Taking responsibility is part of
a warrantee.
Seems pretty simple... If a third-party works on it, the company is no
longer responsible for how it works.
No misrepresentation. You just can\'t read. Who said anything about a
warranty?
Then what is Ricksy referring to? John Deere won\'t sell anymore equipment
to the farmer?
Go back to August 9. \"Right to Repair\".
What???
Massachusetts law? Providing information about a car\'s system?
My contention is with \"John Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be
made\".
I guess the manufacturer could hide technical information. But usually the
mechanic knows that stuff. One would certainly hope the mechanic knows what
it\'s doing.
The days of guys just spinning wrenches are gone. Tractors steer using gps. Sensors monitor the
planters to make sure there aren\'t skips .Combine sensors monitor all sort of things for harvest.
Here\'s a sample.
https://www.deere.com/en/technology-products/precision-ag-technology/#do-more
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 16:25:14 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 6:15:45 PM UTC-6, John Doe wrote:
Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Ricksy wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Ricksy wrote:
dean...@gmail.com wrote:
amdx wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlzAv2GTdc
It\'s easy to see the narrator\'s point. I wonder if the potential
customer could tell the dealer \"throw this in for a life time or see
ya later, bye\".
This reminds me of the organization promoting right to repair. This
is mostly about some egregious manufacturers such as John Deere, yes,
John Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be made to equipment
owned by the farmer unless those repairs were made by the authorized
service center.
That\'s a misrepresentation. Customers are not \"disallowed\". Warranty
service can be refused if the product has been worked on by a
third-party. Nothing wrong with that. Taking responsibility is part of
a warrantee.
Seems pretty simple... If a third-party works on it, the company is no
longer responsible for how it works.
No misrepresentation. You just can\'t read. Who said anything about a
warranty?
Then what is Ricksy referring to? John Deere won\'t sell anymore equipment
to the farmer?
Go back to August 9. \"Right to Repair\".
What???
Massachusetts law? Providing information about a car\'s system?
My contention is with \"John Deere who was refusing to allow repairs to be
made\".
I guess the manufacturer could hide technical information. But usually the
mechanic knows that stuff. One would certainly hope the mechanic knows what
it\'s doing.
The days of guys just spinning wrenches are gone. Tractors steer using gps. Sensors monitor the
planters to make sure there aren\'t skips .Combine sensors monitor all sort of things for harvest.
Here\'s a sample.
https://www.deere.com/en/technology-products/precision-ag-technology/#do-more
Yeah. See:
.<https://www.repair.org/
The days of guys just spinning wrenches are gone. Tractors steer using
gps. Sensors monitor the planters to make sure there aren\'t skips.
Combine sensors monitor all sort of things for harvest. Here\'s a
sample.
https://www.deere.com/en/technology-products/precision-ag-technology/#do-more
The issues that repair.org brings up can take you down quite the rabbit
hole. It is amazing how widely used the DCMA is for things that have
little or nothing to do with copyright. It is a law that is out of
control.
John Deere was refusing to allow repairs to be made to equipment owned
by the farmer.