Total Ripoff Pioneer Spares

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Gareth Magennis

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I'm sick of this shit.


Someone brings me a Pioneer mixer or CDJ to repair, and I need to order
spares.

Get this. A KNOB costs Ł15.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-DJM-700-EQ-Grey-White-Rotary-Knob-DJM700-Low-Mid-Hi-DAA1219-/161064841103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2580366f8f

How do they get away with this?

I have just placed an order for some DJM and CDJ Pioneer spares with a
company I used to work for, and THEY quoted me Ł57.24 for 4 of the above
knobs, so this really is the real price.
The switches and pots I need cost more than this.



Seethe, seethe.




I've looked at 3D printers as an alternative, but from the few samples I've
seen, the plastic is rock hard and not suitable for a comfy knob, and I
don't think its possible to produce a grey knob with a white line pointer
anyway.
The Pioneer ones I want are squidgy.




Gareth.


Upset.
 
Yeah, we live in a society in which you get paid more to play than to work, and in which things are worth one tenth the sum of their parts.

They gougya. I DO understand business and that they are paying rent on these things and that boxes and all kinds of administrative costs make part cost more apart than when the unit is mass produced. But fifteen bucks is out of line for a knob.

Unless the customer is persnickety I would consider replacing them all with sometbing that matches well enough and is a bunch cheaper, maybe even used off a junk unit somewhere. However that doesn't cut it for a bona fide restoration or things like that. And sopme people/shops have a policy that everything is according to the manufacturer.

Well they have their clientele and I have mine. Except for the esoteric audiophile type most of them don't give a shit much as long as they can turn the knob. Nice if the all match.
 
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Yeah, we live in a society in which you get paid more to play than to work,
and in which things are worth one tenth the sum of their parts.

They gougya. I DO understand business and that they are paying rent on these
things and that boxes and all kinds of administrative costs make part cost
more apart than when the unit is mass produced. But fifteen bucks is out of
line for a knob.

Unless the customer is persnickety I would consider replacing them all with
sometbing that matches well enough and is a bunch cheaper, maybe even used
off a junk unit somewhere. However that doesn't cut it for a bona fide
restoration or things like that. And sopme people/shops have a policy that
everything is according to the manufacturer.

Well they have their clientele and I have mine. Except for the esoteric
audiophile type most of them don't give a shit much as long as they can turn
the knob. Nice if the all match.




That Ł15 equates to $23 per knob if you live in North America.

Trust me, I've been long down this line of replacing knobs/switches etc with
stuff you can buy of the shelf, but you just can't, and it just doesn't
work, cos the DJ and me can spot the subterfuge a mile off.
And this is not some old Pioneer hi-fi, this is Current production Pioneer
High End DJ gear for clubs/tours etc.

This is the package I have in my workshop right now I need spares for:

http://www.djanddiscostuff.com/dj-equipment-c25/multi-format-cdj-c38/single-cdj-c39/cdj-2000-nexus-pair-multi-format-player-with-pioneer-djm-900-nexus-p1497/s1541?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=pioneer-cdj-2000-nexus-pair-multi-format-player-with-pioneer-djm-900-n&utm_campaign=product%2Blisting%2Bads&gclid=CJ3emtX-7sMCFQLMtAodWy0A5A


The fact is, Pioneer have ensured that their parts are the only ones you can
use on their products, and can and do charge what they want.

Nice work if you can get it.



Gareth.
 
On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 4:52:48 PM UTC-5, Gareth Magennis wrote:

And this is not some old Pioneer hi-fi, this is Current production Pioneer
High End DJ gear for clubs/tours etc.


Gareth.
Click to expand...

At least you have the advantage of the unit being a "high end" product. Imagine the fun of dealing with the same garbage on a low end unit..

I have a 50" Proscan LED TV only a few months old (2014 Black Friday POS) that has corrupted firmware. I have a dozen files from various brands that use the same basic mainboard but can't find the exact one that will give me a normal picture, or remote functions, etc.

I called Proscan, and they won't send me the firmware (had to explain to the phone dunce what firmware was). So I asked for the eeprom; they don't sell ICs. I asked for a price on the main, and they said they don't sell those either. Their solution is to pack up the TV and send it to Michigan for repair.

Of course, the customer abandoned this toilet for a problem that could be solved with an email. So the TV is junk unless and until I get another one like it in the shop with an intact firmware that I can copy.
 
On 19/02/15 20:25, Gareth Magennis wrote:
I'm sick of this shit.


Someone brings me a Pioneer mixer or CDJ to repair, and I need to order
spares.

Get this. A KNOB costs ÂŁ15.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-DJM-700-EQ-Grey-White-Rotary-Knob-DJM700-Low-Mid-Hi-DAA1219-/161064841103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2580366f8f

How do they get away with this?

I have just placed an order for some DJM and CDJ Pioneer spares with a
company I used to work for, and THEY quoted me ÂŁ57.24 for 4 of the above
knobs, so this really is the real price.
The switches and pots I need cost more than this.



Seethe, seethe.




I've looked at 3D printers as an alternative, but from the few samples I've
seen, the plastic is rock hard and not suitable for a comfy knob, and I
don't think its possible to produce a grey knob with a white line pointer
anyway.
The Pioneer ones I want are squidgy.




Gareth.


Upset.
Click to expand...

Oh, it's not just electronic stuff:
http://www.espares.co.uk/product/es1612383/hob-control-knob?PartTypeId=1599&ManufacturerId=254

And you thought the Pioneer knob was expensive! A dozen years ago it
cost me over ÂŁ70 to replace the 6 knobs on a Stoves unit (all the
markings had worn off, and a couple were loose).

--

Jeff
 
Arfa Daily wrote:

I repair quite a few of the CDJ and DJM units, and they are expensive to
buy in the first place, but everyone that owns them loves them to bits. And
because of this, I've found that they don't bat an eyelid at the cost of
parts or the total repair costs. And the thing is that as you say yourself,
it might just be a knob, but it's a unique knob that has that right 'feel'
to it, so I suppose in some ways you can expect it to be expensive. The
people that own these things are generally professional DJs, so these units
are their tools that allow them, in some cases, to earn large amounts of
money, so they expect to pay a premium to get them repaired.
Click to expand...

** Crikey !!!

AD must deal with a whole different kind of "DJ" to the ones I come across.

Words like "tight-arse", "con-artist", "hassler" and "whinger" cover most of them while the rest are straight out crims or drug dealers.


.... Phil
 
On 20/02/2015 7:09 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 19/02/15 20:25, Gareth Magennis wrote:
I'm sick of this shit.


Someone brings me a Pioneer mixer or CDJ to repair, and I need to order
spares.

Get this. A KNOB costs ÂŁ15.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-DJM-700-EQ-Grey-White-Rotary-Knob-DJM700-Low-Mid-Hi-DAA1219-/161064841103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2580366f8f


How do they get away with this?

I have just placed an order for some DJM and CDJ Pioneer spares with a
company I used to work for, and THEY quoted me ÂŁ57.24 for 4 of the above
knobs, so this really is the real price.
The switches and pots I need cost more than this.



Seethe, seethe.




I've looked at 3D printers as an alternative, but from the few samples
I've
seen, the plastic is rock hard and not suitable for a comfy knob, and I
don't think its possible to produce a grey knob with a white line pointer
anyway.
The Pioneer ones I want are squidgy.




Gareth.


Upset.

Oh, it's not just electronic stuff:
http://www.espares.co.uk/product/es1612383/hob-control-knob?PartTypeId=1599&ManufacturerId=254


And you thought the Pioneer knob was expensive! A dozen years ago it
cost me over ÂŁ70 to replace the 6 knobs on a Stoves unit (all the
markings had worn off, and a couple were loose).
Click to expand...

**It gets worse. I was working for a repair shop a few years back and we
had to service a commercial microwave oven. The bearing for the stirrer
had failed and we had to replace the stirrer and bearing as an assembly
(along with the magnetron). The bearing was some kind of nylon material
and the stirrer was, as usual, a light piece of bent aluminium. My
estimated cost was about 5 Bucks (given the estimated manufactured cost
would have been about $0.20). Actual cost of the stirrer was $140.00!
All because it was a commercial MO.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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"Gareth Magennis" <gareth.magennis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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I'm sick of this shit.


Someone brings me a Pioneer mixer or CDJ to repair, and I need to order
spares.

Get this. A KNOB costs Ł15.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-DJM-700-EQ-Grey-White-Rotary-Knob-DJM700-Low-Mid-Hi-DAA1219-/161064841103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2580366f8f

How do they get away with this?
Click to expand...

I repair quite a few of the CDJ and DJM units, and they are expensive to
buy in the first place, but everyone that owns them loves them to bits. And
because of this, I've found that they don't bat an eyelid at the cost of
parts or the total repair costs. And the thing is that as you say yourself,
it might just be a knob, but it's a unique knob that has that right 'feel'
to it, so I suppose in some ways you can expect it to be expensive. The
people that own these things are generally professional DJs, so these units
are their tools that allow them, in some cases, to earn large amounts of
money, so they expect to pay a premium to get them repaired.

Arfa
 
Phil Allison wrote:
Arfa Daily wrote:

I repair quite a few of the CDJ and DJM units, and they are
expensive to buy in the first place, but everyone that owns them
loves them to bits. And because of this, I've found that they don't
bat an eyelid at the cost of parts or the total repair costs. And
the thing is that as you say yourself, it might just be a knob, but
it's a unique knob that has that right 'feel' to it, so I suppose
in
some ways you can expect it to be expensive. The people that own
these things are generally professional DJs, so these units are
their tools that allow them, in some cases, to earn large amounts
of
money, so they expect to pay a premium to get them repaired.


** Crikey !!!

AD must deal with a whole different kind of "DJ" to the ones I come
across.

Words like "tight-arse", "con-artist", "hassler" and "whinger" cover
most of them while the rest are straight out crims or drug dealers.


... Phil
Click to expand...

Aye, literally a world apart....

The knobs are indeed very dear for what they are, but at least they
are available and not so outrageously expensive as to render the units
Beyond Economical Repair for a fair charge for obtaining and fitting a
couple of them.

Martin.
 
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I'm sick of this shit.


Someone brings me a Pioneer mixer or CDJ to repair, and I need to order
spares.

Get this. A KNOB costs Ł15.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-DJM-700-EQ-Grey-White-Rotary-Knob-DJM700-Low-Mid-Hi-DAA1219-/161064841103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2580366f8f

How do they get away with this?



I repair quite a few of the CDJ and DJM units, and they are expensive to
buy in the first place, but everyone that owns them loves them to bits.
And because of this, I've found that they don't bat an eyelid at the cost
of parts or the total repair costs. And the thing is that as you say
yourself, it might just be a knob, but it's a unique knob that has that
right 'feel' to it, so I suppose in some ways you can expect it to be
expensive. The people that own these things are generally professional
DJs, so these units are their tools that allow them, in some cases, to
earn large amounts of money, so they expect to pay a premium to get them
repaired.

Arfa
Click to expand...

Geoff.

I don't work on many CD-J units, but I've got a CD-J800mkII in right now and
having trouble nailing down the problem.

Basically it acts like the clamper magnet is much too strong. When the mech
goes to lift up the disc off the clamper, it encounters too much resistance
and the white nylon rack gear at the top slips and ratchets. The disc cannot
eject until I help it by lifting up the clamper with my finger. Requires
quite a bit of extra "help".

Sometimes the laser assy also acts gummed up at the inside circumference and
cannot contact the limit switch. It's not the stepper motor, and I cannot
confirm bad lube.

Any ideas?

The Pioneer guy I talked to was clueless.

Mark Z.
 
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I'm sick of this shit.


Someone brings me a Pioneer mixer or CDJ to repair, and I need to order
spares.

Get this. A KNOB costs Ł15.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-DJM-700-EQ-Grey-White-Rotary-Knob-DJM700-Low-Mid-Hi-DAA1219-/161064841103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2580366f8f

How do they get away with this?



I repair quite a few of the CDJ and DJM units, and they are expensive to
buy in the first place, but everyone that owns them loves them to bits.
And because of this, I've found that they don't bat an eyelid at the cost
of parts or the total repair costs. And the thing is that as you say
yourself, it might just be a knob, but it's a unique knob that has that
right 'feel' to it, so I suppose in some ways you can expect it to be
expensive. The people that own these things are generally professional
DJs, so these units are their tools that allow them, in some cases, to
earn large amounts of money, so they expect to pay a premium to get them
repaired.

Arfa
Click to expand...

Geoff.

I don't work on many CD-J units, but I've got a CD-J800mkII in right now and
having trouble nailing down the problem.

Basically it acts like the clamper magnet is much too strong. When the mech
goes to lift up the disc off the clamper, it encounters too much resistance
and the white nylon rack gear at the top slips and ratchets. The disc cannot
eject until I help it by lifting up the clamper with my finger. Requires
quite a bit of extra "help".

Sometimes the laser assy also acts gummed up at the inside circumference and
cannot contact the limit switch. It's not the stepper motor, and I cannot
confirm bad lube.

Any ideas?

The Pioneer guy I talked to was clueless.

Mark Z.




Beer? I've seen quite a bit of that in CDJ's.



Gareth.
 
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I'm sick of this shit.


Someone brings me a Pioneer mixer or CDJ to repair, and I need to order
spares.

Get this. A KNOB costs Ł15.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-DJM-700-EQ-Grey-White-Rotary-Knob-DJM700-Low-Mid-Hi-DAA1219-/161064841103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2580366f8f

How do they get away with this?



I repair quite a few of the CDJ and DJM units, and they are expensive to
buy in the first place, but everyone that owns them loves them to bits.
And because of this, I've found that they don't bat an eyelid at the cost
of parts or the total repair costs. And the thing is that as you say
yourself, it might just be a knob, but it's a unique knob that has that
right 'feel' to it, so I suppose in some ways you can expect it to be
expensive. The people that own these things are generally professional
DJs, so these units are their tools that allow them, in some cases, to
earn large amounts of money, so they expect to pay a premium to get them
repaired.

Arfa


Geoff.

I don't work on many CD-J units, but I've got a CD-J800mkII in right now
and
having trouble nailing down the problem.

Basically it acts like the clamper magnet is much too strong. When the
mech
goes to lift up the disc off the clamper, it encounters too much
resistance
and the white nylon rack gear at the top slips and ratchets. The disc
cannot
eject until I help it by lifting up the clamper with my finger. Requires
quite a bit of extra "help".

Sometimes the laser assy also acts gummed up at the inside circumference
and
cannot contact the limit switch. It's not the stepper motor, and I cannot
confirm bad lube.

Any ideas?

The Pioneer guy I talked to was clueless.

Mark Z.




Beer? I've seen quite a bit of that in CDJ's.



Gareth.
Click to expand...

Well, I did forget to mention that there was a small quantity of sticky
stuff in there, but I have carefully cleaned the affected parts and at least
so far as the clamper issue is concerned, I do not think this is my issue.
The pickup sometimes sticking near the inner circumference on the other
hand...

Mark Z.
 
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Arfa Daily wrote:

I repair quite a few of the CDJ and DJM units, and they are expensive to
buy in the first place, but everyone that owns them loves them to bits.
And
because of this, I've found that they don't bat an eyelid at the cost of
parts or the total repair costs. And the thing is that as you say
yourself,
it might just be a knob, but it's a unique knob that has that right
'feel'
to it, so I suppose in some ways you can expect it to be expensive. The
people that own these things are generally professional DJs, so these
units
are their tools that allow them, in some cases, to earn large amounts of
money, so they expect to pay a premium to get them repaired.


** Crikey !!!

AD must deal with a whole different kind of "DJ" to the ones I come
across.

Words like "tight-arse", "con-artist", "hassler" and "whinger" cover most
of them while the rest are straight out crims or drug dealers.


... Phil
Click to expand...

Maybe that's part of the Aussie heritage :)

However, that said, there are of course DJs like that here, BUT, they are
not proper professionals that make their primary living at it. These are
builders and plumbers and truck drivers that 'do a bit of DJ-ing' on the
side at night for pin money. They often are the buyers of cheapo Maplin DJ
units and the like though, not owners of expensive Pioneer pro units. It's a
bit like if you look at the tools *we* use. My workshop side cutters for
instance, are Lindstroms costing 45 quid a pop. I could easily have a 10
quid pair from eBay, and if I was a hobbyist, I would, but these are for
professional use, and as far as I'm concerned, they are worth every penny,
and I don't begrudge the money spent on them. They help me make my living,
and that's the same with pro owners of Pioneer DJ equipment.

Arfa
 
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I'm sick of this shit.


Someone brings me a Pioneer mixer or CDJ to repair, and I need to order
spares.

Get this. A KNOB costs Ł15.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-DJM-700-EQ-Grey-White-Rotary-Knob-DJM700-Low-Mid-Hi-DAA1219-/161064841103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2580366f8f

How do they get away with this?



I repair quite a few of the CDJ and DJM units, and they are expensive
to buy in the first place, but everyone that owns them loves them to
bits. And because of this, I've found that they don't bat an eyelid at
the cost of parts or the total repair costs. And the thing is that as
you say yourself, it might just be a knob, but it's a unique knob that
has that right 'feel' to it, so I suppose in some ways you can expect it
to be expensive. The people that own these things are generally
professional DJs, so these units are their tools that allow them, in
some cases, to earn large amounts of money, so they expect to pay a
premium to get them repaired.

Arfa


Geoff.

I don't work on many CD-J units, but I've got a CD-J800mkII in right now
and
having trouble nailing down the problem.

Basically it acts like the clamper magnet is much too strong. When the
mech
goes to lift up the disc off the clamper, it encounters too much
resistance
and the white nylon rack gear at the top slips and ratchets. The disc
cannot
eject until I help it by lifting up the clamper with my finger. Requires
quite a bit of extra "help".

Sometimes the laser assy also acts gummed up at the inside circumference
and
cannot contact the limit switch. It's not the stepper motor, and I cannot
confirm bad lube.

Any ideas?

The Pioneer guy I talked to was clueless.

Mark Z.




Beer? I've seen quite a bit of that in CDJ's.



Gareth.


Well, I did forget to mention that there was a small quantity of sticky
stuff in there, but I have carefully cleaned the affected parts and at
least so far as the clamper issue is concerned, I do not think this is my
issue.
The pickup sometimes sticking near the inner circumference on the other
hand...

Mark Z.
Click to expand...

As Gareth says, I've generally found the mechs to be quite reliable,
mechanically. Beer / Coke ingression is very common for all sorts of nasty
little problems on them. If there are signs of something like that having
gone in there, it would still be the place that I think I would be looking
for the problem. The motors are very light duty things, relying for their
'power' on the gearing behind them. If anything offers any resistance to
that gearing, then there is just not enough power in the motor to overcome
it.

Do you have the manual for it ? The exploded view of the deck shows all the
lube points and the type of lube that should be used.

When you get it all going, check all of the tactile switches. The ones most
used like "Play" and "Cue", have a habit of collapsing and losing their
'click'. They are easily replaced on most models. Also, check that the
springs on the Jog Wheel have not collapsed. The turntable should have a
distinct - but light - movement of probably 3/4 mm. When the springs that
keep it raised collapse, you only have to blow on it to make it do its
thing, and that is then close to the time where it can 'make' the ring of
foil switches under it, almost under its own weight. The jog wheel assembly
is easily removed and serviced. The springs can either be replaced, or
gently re-stretched until they just support the weight of the turntable
again.

Arfa
 
On Saturday, February 21, 2015 at 6:27:41 AM UTC-5, Mark Zacharias wrote:

Basically it acts like the clamper magnet is much too strong. When the mech
goes to lift up the disc off the clamper, it encounters too much resistance
and the white nylon rack gear at the top slips and ratchets. The disc cannot
eject until I help it by lifting up the clamper with my finger. Requires
quite a bit of extra "help".
Click to expand...

Any chance a spacer is missing on the clamper or turntable? Years ago I ran into something similar to this and I think a stick-on rubber disc slipped off the turntable allowing the space between the clamper magnet and the turntable to be reduced increasing the clamping force.
 
Trevor Wilson wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:

** Crikey !!!

AD must deal with a whole different kind of "DJ" to the ones I come across.

Words like "tight-arse", "con-artist", "hassler" and "whinger" cover most of them while the rest are straight out crims or drug dealers.

**That has been my experience with these scum too. When I've dealt with
them, I have felt an uncontrollable need to check my valuables and have
a good bath.
Click to expand...

** Back in the mid 70s when disco took off in Australia, I had quite a few customers who hired out DJ equipment - some of these systems were large enough to double as a PA for bands.

The failure rate of the amplifiers was very high and so I got plenty of repair work on SAE 2200s & 2400s, Phase Linear 400s & 700s and Yamaha 2200 power amplifiers and many others.

I even designed a good quality DJ mixer that was produced in quantity and sold as JAI Sound.

When the disco craze started to wane in the late 80s, things turned nasty and a lot of crims entered the business - mostly as DJs who has bought their own gear.

One of my regular customers disposed of all his DJ hire stock cos he was getting constant death threats from competitors. It was that nasty.

Disco use is the hardest use of amps and speakers I know of - add take away hire to almost anyone and you have a disaster looing for somewhere to happen.

IME, DJs are equipment wreckers and thoroughly nasty people.



..... Phil
 
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Phil Allison wrote:
Arfa Daily wrote:

I repair quite a few of the CDJ and DJM units, and they are
expensive to buy in the first place, but everyone that owns them
loves them to bits. And because of this, I've found that they don't
bat an eyelid at the cost of parts or the total repair costs. And
the thing is that as you say yourself, it might just be a knob, but
it's a unique knob that has that right 'feel' to it, so I suppose in
some ways you can expect it to be expensive. The people that own
these things are generally professional DJs, so these units are
their tools that allow them, in some cases, to earn large amounts of
money, so they expect to pay a premium to get them repaired.


** Crikey !!!

AD must deal with a whole different kind of "DJ" to the ones I come
across.

Words like "tight-arse", "con-artist", "hassler" and "whinger" cover
most of them while the rest are straight out crims or drug dealers.


... Phil
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Aye, literally a world apart....

The knobs are indeed very dear for what they are, but at least they
are available and not so outrageously expensive as to render the units
Beyond Economical Repair for a fair charge for obtaining and fitting a
couple of them.

Martin.




Well I don't have the quote to hand now, but I originally ordered 1 switch,
1 pot, 1 SMD CAT5 socket and 4 knobs.
The total was well over Ł100 - that's well over $150 of your dollars if you
live in North America, and well over $200 if you descend from a criminal and
live in Australia and hate DJ's.

I think it was actually in the Ł130's so add about 30%.

So after adding a reasonable mark up on parts and a couple of hours labour,
you have a fairly hefty bill for what seems like simply replacing 3
obviously physically broken things and 4 knobs.
Not much brains required to diagnose the faults even.


I don't like that much cos it looks like I am ripping them off when I
certainly am not. Pioneer are.

Harrumph.



Gareth.
 
Oh, and even the CAT5 socket is non standard. It is considerably longer
than any you can buy from Farnell etc.

I know, I spent a long time trying to find one.


Cuh.




Gareth.
 
On 21/02/2015 2:35 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
Arfa Daily wrote:

I repair quite a few of the CDJ and DJM units, and they are expensive to
buy in the first place, but everyone that owns them loves them to bits. And
because of this, I've found that they don't bat an eyelid at the cost of
parts or the total repair costs. And the thing is that as you say yourself,
it might just be a knob, but it's a unique knob that has that right 'feel'
to it, so I suppose in some ways you can expect it to be expensive. The
people that own these things are generally professional DJs, so these units
are their tools that allow them, in some cases, to earn large amounts of
money, so they expect to pay a premium to get them repaired.


** Crikey !!!

AD must deal with a whole different kind of "DJ" to the ones I come across.

Words like "tight-arse", "con-artist", "hassler" and "whinger" cover most of them while the rest are straight out crims or drug dealers.
Click to expand...

**That has been my experience with these scum too. When I've dealt with
them, I have felt an uncontrollable need to check my valuables and have
a good bath.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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** Crikey !!!

AD must deal with a whole different kind of "DJ" to the ones I come
across.

Words like "tight-arse", "con-artist", "hassler" and "whinger" cover most
of them while the rest are straight out crims or drug dealers.

**That has been my experience with these scum too. When I've dealt with
them, I have felt an uncontrollable need to check my valuables and have a
good bath.


--
Trevor Wilson
Click to expand...

Then there must be something really odd about the profession in your
country. I have found them to be nothing of the sort here. Either that, or
we're not talking about the same group of people ...

Arfa
 
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