To our future engineers, smart and otherwise...

[Peter Alfke]

If your homework is too tough,
and the time just flies away,
thinking hard is not enough,
click: comp.arch.fpga.

There you find those friendly souls,
Austin, Philip, Peter, Ray
filling in your mental holes,
making problems go away.

But learning is for you to do,
even if it hurts the brain.
The one that has to learn is you.
There's no substitute for pain.

If you want to learn design
don't treat homework just as play.
Real life is not benign,
and you'll have to earn your pay!

sooner or later...

These lines were triggered by the endless dice discussion.
Peter Alfke, Xilinx Applications

 

[Jake Janovetz]

I expected to see this entitled: "XAPP 998" or something similar...

Peter Alfke <peter@xilinx.com> wrote in message news:<3F8D76F9.416635DF@xilinx.com>...

If your homework is too tough,
and the time just flies away,
thinking hard is not enough,
click: comp.arch.fpga.
....

 

[Vinh Pham]

I expected to see this entitled: "XAPP 998" or something similar...

LOL

 

[Vinh Pham]

If your homework is too tough,

....

These lines were triggered by the endless dice discussion.

Haha. I think some very busy students could use a Cliff Notes version of
your poetry. Don't think they'd have time to read it.

 

[Glen Herrmannsfeldt]

"Vinh Pham" <a@a.a> wrote in message
news:5jnjb.16952$ZH4.2178@twister.socal.rr.com...

If your homework is too tough,

These lines were triggered by the endless dice discussion.

Haha. I think some very busy students could use a Cliff Notes version of
your poetry. Don't think they'd have time to read it.

Some years ago, (before the web) they came out with Cliff Notes on CD-ROM,
so convenient for directly copying into papers. I had thought then that it
would be time for a system to quickly tell a grader that a paper was copied
directly.

Maybe even using FPGA hardware to do it!

-- glen

 

[Vinh Pham]

Some years ago, (before the web) they came out with Cliff Notes on CD-ROM,
so convenient for directly copying into papers. I had thought then that
it
would be time for a system to quickly tell a grader that a paper was
copied
directly.

Wouldn't it be funny if Cliff Notes was the company to provide such an
app/service? Heh talk about creating your own market.

Maybe even using FPGA hardware to do it!

Heh that sounds like a much better project than electric dice :_)

 

[Jonathan Bromley]

"Peter Alfke" <peter@xilinx.com> wrote in message
news:3F8D76F9.416635DF@xilinx.com...
[...snip poetry...]

These lines were triggered by the endless dice discussion.
Peter Alfke, Xilinx Applications

Surely you should have signed it "e e alfke" ???
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[JoeG]

Peter Alfke wrote:

If your homework is too tough,
and the time just flies away,
thinking hard is not enough,
click: comp.arch.fpga.

There you find those friendly souls,
Austin, Philip, Peter, Ray
filling in your mental holes,
making problems go away.

But learning is for you to do,
even if it hurts the brain.
The one that has to learn is you.
There's no substitute for pain.

If you want to learn design
don't treat homework just as play.
Real life is not benign,
and you'll have to earn your pay!

sooner or later...

These lines were triggered by the endless dice discussion.
Peter Alfke, Xilinx Applications

I'm glad I didn't have access to the Inet during my college days, as my
efforts in class/homework would not have been as rewarding and industrious.

You wonder if the intellecutal output of men like Augustine or Da Vinci
would have been stunted if they had a laptop?

JoeG

 

[ram]

I'm glad I didn't have access to the Inet during my college days, as my
efforts in class/homework would not have been as rewarding and industrious.

You wonder if the intellecutal output of men like Augustine or Da Vinci
would have been stunted if they had a laptop?

JoeG

Now, its all about speed
Finding the solution by yourself, is rewarding ever but, "will you get
the job done by time" I am not suggesting getting solutions are the
best way,i am pointing out, the hurdles on your path towards goal may
not be totally relevent, eg, there might some glitch in software
tools,though your program is correct, what if the tool suggests
otherwise, unless you ask someone, you wouldnt know.
There I belive Inet is much rewarding.
bye
RAm

 

[H. Peter Anvin]

Followup to: <belkb.1647$2O3.332@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>
By author: JoeG <JoeG@spam.net>
In newsgroup: comp.arch.fpga

I'm glad I didn't have access to the Inet during my college days, as my
efforts in class/homework would not have been as rewarding and industrious.

I *am* glad that I had access to the Internet at my university; it was
both a great study tool and provided the opportunity for branching out
in areas I would otherwise never have expected -- this is how I got
involved with Linux, back when noone had heard of it.

Like anything else it can be abused. Students asking people to do
their homework for them figured back then... these days they tend to
do it from anonymous yahoo accounts, however, which means that it's
not just ignorance, but that they know they're cheating.

-hpa
--
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If you send me mail in HTML format I will assume it's spam.
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[john jakson]

H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote in message news:<bn18l8$od1$1@cesium.transmeta.com>...

Followup to: <belkb.1647$2O3.332@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com
By author: JoeG <JoeG@spam.net
In newsgroup: comp.arch.fpga

I'm glad I didn't have access to the Inet during my college days, as my
efforts in class/homework would not have been as rewarding and industrious.


I *am* glad that I had access to the Internet at my university; it was
both a great study tool and provided the opportunity for branching out
in areas I would otherwise never have expected -- this is how I got
involved with Linux, back when noone had heard of it.

Like anything else it can be abused. Students asking people to do
their homework for them figured back then... these days they tend to
do it from anonymous yahoo accounts, however, which means that it's
not just ignorance, but that they know they're cheating.

-hpa

Like many oldtimers I also never had a PC till way after starting
work. I am hoping that when I send my kids off to school in a few
years that they never see a darn pc at all, maybe they might have an
accredited Mathematics & Science teacher instead, but I don't expect
too much these days compared to my own fortunate education.

By the way does anybody graduate from college these days without
having a PC forced on them and if so could they get a job based on
more limited (selective) computer exp ie a nice old mainframe or
workstations in modern talk?

johnjaksonATusaDOTcom