Tiny motor

In article <lnl331l999eb884q76ds9kmdpl9bgeg1fj@4ax.com>, ROBERT ENDL <ENDLR@EXECPC.COM> wrote:
I have an application for a tiny low-voltage, low-current,
synchronous motor. Any idea who makes such a thing? I was thinking
maybe the kind used in very small disk drives but I can't find a
manufacturer.
Is 1.9mm diameter smal enough?
See "Product Range" -> "Micro Drive" on http://www.minimotor.ch/uk/
or http://www.micromo.com/
 
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ROBERT ENDL

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I have an application for a tiny low-voltage, low-current,
synchronous motor. Any idea who makes such a thing? I was thinking
maybe the kind used in very small disk drives but I can't find a
manufacturer.
 
They aren't generally synhronous (they're DC AFAIK), but all the
surplus places carry "pager motors", often 1.5V and the motor body as
small as 4mm in diameter.

Tim.
 
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:40:53 -0600, in sci.electronics.design ROBERT
ENDL <ENDLR@EXECPC.COM> wrote:

I have an application for a tiny low-voltage, low-current,
synchronous motor. Any idea who makes such a thing? I was thinking
maybe the kind used in very small disk drives but I can't find a
manufacturer.
http://www.pagermotors.com/index_files/English/Parts.htm

martin

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
Gandhi
 
The pager motors are nifty, but I need tight speed control (a
couple of thousand rpm), preferably without fancy speed control.
Higher voltage/lower current drive would be nice. As would a 10 year
operating life.


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:44:00 +0100, martin griffith
<martingriffithX@Xyahoo.co.uk> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:40:53 -0600, in sci.electronics.design ROBERT
ENDL <ENDLR@EXECPC.COM> wrote:

I have an application for a tiny low-voltage, low-current,
synchronous motor. Any idea who makes such a thing? I was thinking
maybe the kind used in very small disk drives but I can't find a
manufacturer.
http://www.pagermotors.com/index_files/English/Parts.htm

martin

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
Gandhi
 
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:00:30 -0600, in sci.electronics.design ROBERT
ENDL <ENDLR@EXECPC.COM> wrote:

The pager motors are nifty, but I need tight speed control (a
couple of thousand rpm), preferably without fancy speed control.
Higher voltage/lower current drive would be nice. As would a 10 year
operating life.

well, if money isnt a problem
http://www.maxonmotorusa.com/products/

martin

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
Gandhi
 
"ROBERT ENDL" <ENDLR@EXECPC.COM> wrote in message
news:lnl331l999eb884q76ds9kmdpl9bgeg1fj@4ax.com...
I have an application for a tiny low-voltage, low-current,
synchronous motor. Any idea who makes such a thing? I was thinking
maybe the kind used in very small disk drives but I can't find a
manufacturer.
There is a 'crossover' here in terminology. DC brushless motors, are in a
sense very similar to synchronous motors, but with the excitation phases
fed from a synthesised DC source, rather than a normal AC excitation. Most
drive motors are DC brushless designs, rather than synchronous motors.
For a genuine 'synchronous' motor have a look at SAIA-Burgess. Their 'URT'
series motors, are 13mm*11mm, and run of between 3v, and 24v AC.
EAD motors, do a DC brushless design in a very similar size.

Best Wishes
 
Price is "always" an issue.
The Maxon EC series looks very interesting. Small, low power,
and high speed. Maxon doesn't say much about driving them however.
Probably rather sell the controller. It looks like I would have to
generate a 3-phase...pulsed DC? Where can I find info on driving
them?



On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:15:37 GMT, "Roger Hamlett"
<rogerspamignored@ttelmah.demon.co.uk> wrote:

"ROBERT ENDL" <ENDLR@EXECPC.COM> wrote in message
news:lnl331l999eb884q76ds9kmdpl9bgeg1fj@4ax.com...
I have an application for a tiny low-voltage, low-current,
synchronous motor. Any idea who makes such a thing? I was thinking
maybe the kind used in very small disk drives but I can't find a
manufacturer.
There is a 'crossover' here in terminology. DC brushless motors, are in a
sense very similar to synchronous motors, but with the excitation phases
fed from a synthesised DC source, rather than a normal AC excitation. Most
drive motors are DC brushless designs, rather than synchronous motors.
For a genuine 'synchronous' motor have a look at SAIA-Burgess. Their 'URT'
series motors, are 13mm*11mm, and run of between 3v, and 24v AC.
EAD motors, do a DC brushless design in a very similar size.

Best Wishes
 
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:51:50 -0600, ROBERT ENDL top-posted:
Probably rather sell the controller. It looks like I would have to
generate a 3-phase...pulsed DC? Where can I find info on driving
them?
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:15:37 GMT, "Roger Hamlett"
"ROBERT ENDL" <ENDLR@EXECPC.COM> wrote in message
I have an application for a tiny low-voltage, low-current,
synchronous motor. Any idea who makes such a thing? I was thinking
maybe the kind used in very small disk drives but I can't find a
manufacturer.
There is a 'crossover' here in terminology. DC brushless motors, are in a
sense very similar to synchronous motors, but with the excitation phases
fed from a synthesised DC source, rather than a normal AC excitation. Most
....
You might try some links here:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=brushless+dc+motor+drive+circuit&btnG=Google+Search

Good Luck!
Rich
 
Hello Robert,

Price is "always" an issue.
The Maxon EC series looks very interesting. Small, low power,
and high speed. Maxon doesn't say much about driving them however.
Probably rather sell the controller. It looks like I would have to
generate a 3-phase...pulsed DC? Where can I find info on driving
them?
They should help you with that.

Three-phase isn't hard to do. A shift register and a clock is one
option. If you have a micro controller anyway and three free pins and a
free timer you could have it do the control. But only some uC have
enough compare registers for three-phase so the external solution is
more likely. Then you'd have to shape the outputs and overlaps into
whatever the motor wants (info that should be provided by the mfg).

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com
 
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:06:23 +0100, martin griffith
<martingriffithX@Xyahoo.co.uk> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:00:30 -0600, in sci.electronics.design ROBERT
ENDL <ENDLR@EXECPC.COM> wrote:

The pager motors are nifty, but I need tight speed control (a
couple of thousand rpm), preferably without fancy speed control.
Higher voltage/lower current drive would be nice. As would a 10 year
operating life.

well, if money isnt a problem
http://www.maxonmotorusa.com/products/

martin
What is the price range of the Maxon DC brushless motors?

I've sent Maxon an email, but it's Saturday and I was just hoping
someone might have some numbers already and would post them to the
newsgroup, along with any other impressions of dealing with Maxon.
 
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:07:53 -0500, in sci.electronics.design
Anon@anon.com wrote:

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:06:23 +0100, martin griffith
martingriffithX@Xyahoo.co.uk> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:00:30 -0600, in sci.electronics.design ROBERT
ENDL <ENDLR@EXECPC.COM> wrote:

The pager motors are nifty, but I need tight speed control (a
couple of thousand rpm), preferably without fancy speed control.
Higher voltage/lower current drive would be nice. As would a 10 year
operating life.

well, if money isnt a problem
http://www.maxonmotorusa.com/products/

martin

What is the price range of the Maxon DC brushless motors?

I've sent Maxon an email, but it's Saturday and I was just hoping
someone might have some numbers already and would post them to the
newsgroup, along with any other impressions of dealing with Maxon.
No Idea, havent used them since '93, servo motors on a motion control
camera rig, ...and I didnt pay the invoice.

martin

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
Gandhi
 
Thanks. Turns out these guys do have the motor of my dreams,
a very small, high-speed stepper. The price, $60/100s, might be a
problem. I'm going to have rethink this.


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:56:08 GMT, nyffeler@phys.chem.ethz.ch
(nyffeler) wrote:

In article <lnl331l999eb884q76ds9kmdpl9bgeg1fj@4ax.com>, ROBERT ENDL <ENDLR@EXECPC.COM> wrote:
I have an application for a tiny low-voltage, low-current,
synchronous motor. Any idea who makes such a thing? I was thinking
maybe the kind used in very small disk drives but I can't find a
manufacturer.

Is 1.9mm diameter smal enough?
See "Product Range" -> "Micro Drive" on http://www.minimotor.ch/uk/
or http://www.micromo.com/
 

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