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If that were true, then the stupidity of the secret service would\"A new report by a National Academy of Sciences committee has found that \"directed\" microwave radiation is the likely cause of illnesses among American diplomats in Cuba and China.\"
https://apnxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On 07.12.20 16:50, Davej wrote:
 \"A new report by a National Academy of Sciences committee has found
that \"directed\" microwave radiation is the likely cause of illnesses
among American diplomats in Cuba and China.\"
https://apnxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If that were true, then the stupidity of the secret service would
be enormous.
You can detect directed beams with almost anything, if they
are strong enough to harm people.
Hook a few diodes and wires to any sound system, and you
start hearing things.
Any fluorescent light tube would start emitting light, long before the
beams became dangerous.
Any engineer can think of a host of gadgets to detect those beams.
So, either the sec.serv. guys are stupid, or there were no
secret beams.
On 07.12.20 16:50, Davej wrote:
 \"A new report by a National Academy of Sciences committee has found
that \"directed\" microwave radiation is the likely cause of illnesses
among American diplomats in Cuba and China.\"
https://apnxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If that were true, then the stupidity of the secret service would
be enormous.
You can detect directed beams with almost anything, if they
are strong enough to harm people.
Hook a few diodes and wires to any sound system, and you
start hearing things.
Any fluorescent light tube would start emitting light, long before the
beams became dangerous.
Any engineer can think of a host of gadgets to detect those beams.
So, either the sec.serv. guys are stupid, or there were no
secret beams.
On 07.12.20 16:50, Davej wrote:
\"A new report by a National Academy of Sciences committee has found that \"directed\" microwave radiation is the likely cause of illnesses among American diplomats in Cuba and China.\"
If that were true, then the stupidity of the secret service would
be enormous.
You can detect directed beams with almost anything, if they
are strong enough to harm people.
Testing for \"after effects\" is rather useless.On Monday, December 7, 2020 at 9:15:25 AM UTC-8, Sjouke Burry wrote:
On 07.12.20 16:50, Davej wrote:
\"A new report by a National Academy of Sciences committee has found that \"directed\" microwave radiation is the likely cause of illnesses among American diplomats in Cuba and China.\"
If that were true, then the stupidity of the secret service would
be enormous.
You can detect directed beams with almost anything, if they
are strong enough to harm people.
But, if it were a matter of a few episodes, it\'s unlikely the diplomats
would \'detect directed beams\' when outside the embassy. The
whole point of beams is that they can be aimed, and the
operators can hit-and-run.
Snipers can be very elusive, even though their shots are
visible and detectable, because they can hide themselves.
Microwave radiation does make more sense than ultrasound, but...
it always did. Evidence, though, is a hard problem: what traces would
remain behind? Brain tissue damage?
On 07.12.20 16:50, Davej wrote:
\"A new report by a National Academy of Sciences committee has found that \"directed\" microwave radiation is the likely cause of illnesses among American diplomats in Cuba and China.\"
https://apnxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If that were true, then the stupidity of the secret service would
be enormous.
\"A new report by a National Academy of Sciences committee has found that \"directed\" microwave radiation is the likely cause of illnesses among American diplomats in Cuba and China.\"
https://apnews.com/article/politics-science-havana-cuba-china-8eee2de0d887e67d530d1a6f272d781c
Flashbulbs are more fun! Single use though...On 7.12.20 19.15, Sjouke Burry wrote:
On 07.12.20 16:50, Davej wrote:
 \"A new report by a National Academy of Sciences committee has found
that \"directed\" microwave radiation is the likely cause of illnesses
among American diplomats in Cuba and China.\"
https://apnxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If that were true, then the stupidity of the secret service would
be enormous.
You can detect directed beams with almost anything, if they
are strong enough to harm people.
Hook a few diodes and wires to any sound system, and you
start hearing things.
Any fluorescent light tube would start emitting light, long before the
beams became dangerous.
Any engineer can think of a host of gadgets to detect those beams.
So, either the sec.serv. guys are stupid, or there were no
secret beams.
We used unconnected LEDs to find leaks from waveguide
junctions on a 1 MW radar.
Davej wrote:
\"A new report by a National Academy of Sciences committee has found that \"directed\" microwave radiation is the likely cause of illnesses among American diplomats in Cuba and China.\"
And the purpose of that would be... what? The US would send a new batch
of diplomats, there are plenty.
We used unconnected LEDs to find leaks from waveguide
junctions on a 1 MW radar.
Surveillance of talk by doppler backscatter off random objects (can be
done with lidar, too).
I have one of these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274126276216
Long ago the Russians were beaming microwaves to the US embassy to charge
or power ? their listening bugs...
I wanna be in \'Merrica ????
Some may remember Westside Story, I have the DVD.
A 3 cent BAT diode and old fashioned 100 uA moving coil meter should work too for high power,
have that too.
I have one of these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274126276216
Long ago the Russians were beaming microwaves to the US embassy to charge
or power ? their listening bugs...
I wanna be in \'Merrica ????
Some may remember Westside Story, I have the DVD.
A 3 cent BAT diode and old fashioned 100 uA moving coil meter should work too for high power,
have that too.
On Tue, 08 Dec 2020 06:08:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have one of these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274126276216
I have something similar. The problem is that it doesn\'t show
anything about the transmitter except that something is transmitting
on some frequency. Instead, I prefer to use an RTL-SDR dongle and
some spectrum analyzer software.
https://www.rtl-sdr.com/tag/spectrum-analyzer-2/
Long ago the Russians were beaming microwaves to the US embassy to charge
or power ? their listening bugs...
Nope. They were using the RF reflected from a moving diaphragm and
listening to the reflection for FM modulated voices:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)
Nice!
The amount of RF field strength needed to hear useful reflected
signals from such a tiny diaphragm must have been huge. I could
probably cook my dinner on the RF needed. Detecting it should have
been trivial with any kind of ELINT hardware.
I wanna be in \'Merrica ????
Some may remember Westside Story, I have the DVD.
Groan. I was a juvenile delinquent when the movie appeared. Like in
the movie, all us kids formed gangs. What do gangs do? Beat up on
each other, like in the movie. I ended up on the receiving end of a
steel pipe across the back of my head. I survived, but now hate the
movie and the music.
A 3 cent BAT diode and old fashioned 100 uA moving coil meter should work too for high power,
have that too.
Yeah. That\'s called a FSM (field strength meter) or \"sniffer\". Also
useful as a ghost detector. Very little sensitivity, but does work
better if you add a tuned circuit to reduce pickup on undesired
frequencies. 50 ua meters are more common than 100 ua.
On Tue, 08 Dec 2020 06:08:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have one of these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274126276216
I have something similar. The problem is that it doesn\'t show
anything about the transmitter except that something is transmitting
on some frequency. Instead, I prefer to use an RTL-SDR dongle and
some spectrum analyzer software.
https://www.rtl-sdr.com/tag/spectrum-analyzer-2/
Long ago the Russians were beaming microwaves to the US embassy to charge
or power ? their listening bugs...
Nope. They were using the RF reflected from a moving diaphragm and
listening to the reflection for FM modulated voices:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)
Nice!
The amount of RF field strength needed to hear useful reflected
signals from such a tiny diaphragm must have been huge. I could
probably cook my dinner on the RF needed. Detecting it should have
been trivial with any kind of ELINT hardware.
I wanna be in \'Merrica ????
Some may remember Westside Story, I have the DVD.
Groan. I was a juvenile delinquent when the movie appeared. Like in
the movie, all us kids formed gangs. What do gangs do? Beat up on
each other, like in the movie. I ended up on the receiving end of a
steel pipe across the back of my head. I survived, but now hate the
movie and the music.
A 3 cent BAT diode and old fashioned 100 uA moving coil meter should work too for high power,
have that too.
Yeah. That\'s called a FSM (field strength meter) or \"sniffer\". Also
useful as a ghost detector. Very little sensitivity, but does work
better if you add a tuned circuit to reduce pickup on undesired
frequencies. 50 ua meters are more common than 100 ua.