The Two Fundamentals of Engineering

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Stop

Think






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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
 
On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 1:35:56 PM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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Think
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And enough self-belief to think that what you are thinking has some connection to reality.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
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Stop

Think
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No stopping until I die. And certainly not first. Yet you lay it
out as if to be a chronological step process. So...

There are more than two, but a few are...

Observe
Learn
Observe
Think
Create
Observe
Proof
Give to the world
 
On 15/02/20 02:35, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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Think
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There are only two mottoes that I think are worth the ink
or pressure waves:
- Think
- Be Prepared
 
On 15/02/20 02:57, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 1:35:56 PM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Stop

Think

And enough self-belief to think that what you are thinking has some connection to reality.
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And enough humility to realise that others may know more than you in some areas.
 
Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
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On 15/02/20 02:57, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 1:35:56 PM UTC+11,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Stop

Think

And enough self-belief to think that what you are thinking has
some connection to reality.

And enough humility to realise that others may know more than you
in some areas.
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Hear, hear! There, there!

"Woof, woof!" -Oddball
 
On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 7:40:07 PM UTC+11, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/02/20 02:35, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:


Stop

Think

There are only two mottoes that I think are worth the ink
or pressure waves:
- Think
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IBM didn't do to well with that.

> - Be Prepared

And the Boys Scouts got there first. But I did like Tom Lehrer's take on that.

One of our friends in California gets to dine with Tom Lehrer from time to time - she was Boris Johnson's nanny when she was an undergraduate, so she is the sort of person one would have to invent if she didn't really exist (and one was really good at invention).

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 15/02/20 09:34, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 7:40:07 PM UTC+11, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/02/20 02:35, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:


Stop

Think

There are only two mottoes that I think are worth the ink or pressure
waves: - Think

IBM didn't do to well with that.
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The did better than most, and recent demise doesn't affect the motto's value.


- Be Prepared

And the Boys Scouts got there first. But I did like Tom Lehrer's take on
that.
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Of course, and yes. Shame Kissinger got a Nobel prize.


One of our friends in California gets to dine with Tom Lehrer from time to
time - she was Boris Johnson's nanny when she was an undergraduate, so she is
the sort of person one would have to invent if she didn't really exist (and
one was really good at invention).
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Presumably that fly on the wall is honourably discreet :(
 
On 15/02/2020 02:35, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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Measure twice, cut once.

All sensors measure temperature.

--
Cheers
Clive
 
Clive Arthur <cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote in news:r28jgf$ikt$1
@dont-email.me:

On 15/02/2020 02:35, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:


Stop

Think


Measure twice, cut once.

All sensors measure temperature.
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Is that like 'sniff twice, poke once'?

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydkCS2XwM4Q>
 
On 2/14/2020 9:35 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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Once upon a time, in a land far far away, there was a Doctor, Lawyer,
and a engineer, that were found to be doing dastardly deeds in the
Kingdom. The King had them arrested and brought before the Throne.
The King said; "You have all been found guilty of doing dastardly deeds
in my Kingdom and therefore you shall be punished by going to the
Guillotine for execution.

The first up was the Doctor, the Executioner asked "do you want a
blindfold or not??". He hung his head and said "Yes". The Executioner
asked "do you want heads up or heads down??" To which the Doctor
said "heads down". They blindfold him and place him in the Guillotine.

The Executioner reaches and pulls the rope. And shhhhhhhhhhhch!!
The blade stops an inch from his neck. Because of the law of the land
ye' shall not try to execute twice. Therefore the Doctor had to be set
free.

The next up was the Lawyer, the Executioner asked "do you want a
blindfold or not??". He hung his head and said "Yes". The Executioner
asked "do you want heads up or heads down??" To which the Lawyer
said "heads down". They blindfold him and place him in the Guillotine.

The Executioner reaches and pulls the rope. And shhhhhhhhhhhch!!
The blade stops an inch from his neck. Because of the law of the land
ye' shall not try to execute twice. Therefore the Lawyer had to be set
free.

The next up was the engineer, the Executioner asked "do you want a
blindfold or not??". He looked straight ahead and said "No". The
Executioner asked "do you want heads up or heads down??" To which
the engineer said "heads up". They place him in the Guillotine looking
up. The Executioner reaches for the rope and the engineer says,
"Hold it!! I see the problem!!
 
Andy Bennet <andyb@andy.com> wrote in
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On 15/02/2020 02:35, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:


Stop

Think



If it CAN go wrong ...
It will
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There are three shot outcomes in pool.

Too much.
That is one way of missing a shot.

Not enough.
That is the other way of missing a shot.

Right on the money.
That is for made shots.

Even my misses look cool.
 
On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 14:41:41 +0000, Andy Bennet <andyb@andy.com>
wrote:

On 15/02/2020 02:35, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:


Stop

Think



If it CAN go wrong ...
It will
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Yes. There are thousands of mistakes you can make in one modestly
complex electronic design. Paranoia is a logical approach.





--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
 
On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 6:35:56 PM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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But, what I see is more of 'monkey see monkey do'.

To repair CRT drivers (and tune for color), one can sometimes get the
service info, but... when you can't, if there's a driver the chip, just look up
the manufacturer of the chip.

Almost always, the circuit used in a product is identical to the chipmaker's
example circuit. So, someone's 'electronic design' was just a selection of
ancillary component part numbers, and layout.

When design WAS done, it wasn't impressive. An early problem in homebrewing
a computer required me to re-tune my monitor for more video bandwidth (from
TV-like to Macintosh-standard). CRT drive was a cascode pair of two power
transistors; the bottom transistor was the same as the top one, despite its
low beta and slow switching rate. Popped in a general-purpose transistor
(good for a couple of volts and 50 mA, with respectable bandpass) for the bottom
transistor, and my video problem went away.

For a motto, I like 'measure twice, cut once'. It's easier to get things right
with idealizations (and the assemble is an afterthought) than with a
not-quite-right gizmo, dealing with deficiencies piecemeal. Thinking through
a design is much easier than tinkering and tuning a heap of hardwares.
 
Stop .... Think..... That is an abbreviated way to say paralysis by analysis?
 
On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 12:53:52 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
wrote:

On 2020-02-14 18:35, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:


Stop

Think


It's slightly different:


Stop

Drink a beer

Think
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Not for me.

Stop

Drink a beer

Nap.




--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
 
On 2/14/20 8:35 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Stop

Think
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Wasn't there something called the KISS Rule?
Keep It Simple Stupid.
 
On 2020-02-14 18:35, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Stop

Think
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It's slightly different:


Stop

Drink a beer

Think


--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
 
On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 13:30:05 -0800 (PST), bulegoge@columbus.rr.com
wrote:

>Stop .... Think..... That is an abbreviated way to say paralysis by analysis?

No, it's more like "are you sure you're still headed in the right
direction?"



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
 
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