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Don McKenzie

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Don’t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July 29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents this virus from entering my system :)

Cheers Don...



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On 24/06/2016 5:18 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:
Don’t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July
29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents
this virus from entering my system :)

Cheers Don...
Click to expand...
You're mistaken. All it means is that they'll bill you after installing
the unwanted software.

You think there's no legal basis? You're right, of course, but they have
lots of money for lawyers.

Sylvia.
 
On 24/06/2016 9:18 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
Don’t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July
29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents
this virus from entering my system :)

Cheers Don...



If you *upgrade* to WIN10 from a pirate WIN7 do you still need the loader?
Click to expand...
 
Don McKenzie <5V@2.5a> wrote:
Don?t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July
29, 2016.
Click to expand...

Do you have some recent reference which says that they're actually
going through with this?

Yes, they said this a year ago, but it's unwise to take Microsoft
at their word, let alone if it's a year old.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents
this virus from entering my system :)
Click to expand...

Well, GPX Control Panel is invisible and doing its job, so that's the
least of my worries.
 
Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
On 24/06/2016 5:18 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:

Don?t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July
29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents
this virus from entering my system :)

Cheers Don...

You're mistaken. All it means is that they'll bill you after installing
the unwanted software.
Click to expand...

That would be a tad hard, having no name, address, etc. to send the
bill to.

OTOH, they could cripple your installed version. Oh wait ... it's
already crippled, by design.

You think there's no legal basis? You're right, of course, but they have
lots of money for lawyers.
Click to expand...

Well, luckily I'm in the EU and the EU and Microsoft do not go well
together in legal matters.
 
On 24/06/2016 3:18 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:
Don’t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July
29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents
this virus from entering my system :)
Click to expand...

Heh. My parents asked me to do the "free" upgrade because a family
friend promised them it would make their laptop run faster and it is
FREE! and free is good right?

I said no, stick with Windows 7... really.

So they ignored my advice and got their neighbour to do do the
"upgrade". Now they want me to remove it... sigh... because their laptop
runs slow.

Sheez...
 
On 24/06/2016 4:52 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
On 24/06/2016 5:18 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:

Don?t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July
29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents
this virus from entering my system :)

Cheers Don...

You're mistaken. All it means is that they'll bill you after installing
the unwanted software.

That would be a tad hard, having no name, address, etc. to send the
bill to.

OTOH, they could cripple your installed version. Oh wait ... it's
already crippled, by design.

You think there's no legal basis? You're right, of course, but they have
lots of money for lawyers.

Well, luckily I'm in the EU and the EU and Microsoft do not go well
together in legal matters.
Click to expand...
Looks like Scotland and Northern Ireland will do a UKEXIT.
Stupid cunts who voted to leave, they will see business LEAVE the UK in
droves now. The Pound has already crashed.
 
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 22:29:54 +0200, BuckyBalls <"The Pres"@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Well, luckily I'm in the EU and the EU and Microsoft do not go well
together in legal matters.

Looks like Scotland and Northern Ireland will do a UKEXIT.
Stupid cunts who voted to leave, they will see business LEAVE the UK in
droves now. The Pound has already crashed.
Click to expand...

Scotland and Ireland may end up being the only EU members left?
Seems all the lies and deceit have voters browned off worldwide
--
Petzl

Candidates list for the 2016 federal election
http://www.aec.gov.au/election/candidates.htm

Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
Or you are voting for Islam and Sharia.
http://www.aec.gov.au/Voting/How_to_vote/Voting_Senate.htm

IN NSW, for Senate above line vote
AF group vote 1 - 12 candidates
AM group vote 2 - 2 candidates
S group vote 3 - 3 candidates
C group vote 4 - 3 candidates
I group vote 5 - 4 candidates
UG group vote 6 - 20 candidates
Total of 40 candidates voted for none
oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
which are after First Past The Post win.
 
On 25/06/2016 2:45 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 24/06/2016 3:18 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:

Don’t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July
29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents
this virus from entering my system :)


Heh. My parents asked me to do the "free" upgrade because a family
friend promised them it would make their laptop run faster and it is
FREE! and free is good right?

I said no, stick with Windows 7... really.

So they ignored my advice and got their neighbour to do do the
"upgrade". Now they want me to remove it... sigh... because their laptop
runs slow.

Sheez...
Click to expand...
A few days back I upgraded? this desktop to Win10. After seeing all the
hassles other people had when upgrading whilst Win10 was new, I thought
to wait a while till bugs were sorted. The upgrade went without a hitch.
Seems just as fast a before. It's a Q6700 Quadcore so it's no slouch.
Seems to work ok. The way I figure it, I have nothing to lose. I have
the original Win8.1 DVD so if it pisses me off I'll just revert back to
that OS level.
I also have a Q6600 beast here running Win7 so I might just give that a
go on the upgrade and see how it works.

The reason I thought I'd give the upgrade a go was that my brother in
Tasmania bought a Win8.1 equipped HP computer and I upgraded it to Win10
while I was visiting him a few weeks back. That was a low powered
computer and it went as well or better after the upgrade. Anyway, he's
happy enough with it. ;-)

--

Xeno

First they ignore you,
Then they ridicule you,
Then they fight you,
Then you win.

Mahatma Ghandi
 
On 25/06/2016 8:00 AM, Xeno wrote:
On 25/06/2016 2:45 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 24/06/2016 3:18 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:

Don’t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July
29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents
this virus from entering my system :)


Heh. My parents asked me to do the "free" upgrade because a family
friend promised them it would make their laptop run faster and it is
FREE! and free is good right?

I said no, stick with Windows 7... really.

So they ignored my advice and got their neighbour to do do the
"upgrade". Now they want me to remove it... sigh... because their laptop
runs slow.

Sheez...

A few days back I upgraded? this desktop to Win10. After seeing all the
hassles other people had when upgrading whilst Win10 was new, I thought
to wait a while till bugs were sorted. The upgrade went without a hitch.
Seems just as fast a before. It's a Q6700 Quadcore so it's no slouch.
Seems to work ok. The way I figure it, I have nothing to lose. I have
the original Win8.1 DVD so if it pisses me off I'll just revert back to
that OS level.
I also have a Q6600 beast here running Win7 so I might just give that a
go on the upgrade and see how it works.

The reason I thought I'd give the upgrade a go was that my brother in
Tasmania bought a Win8.1 equipped HP computer and I upgraded it to Win10
while I was visiting him a few weeks back. That was a low powered
computer and it went as well or better after the upgrade. Anyway, he's
happy enough with it. ;-)
Click to expand...

I've got a junker dual-core laptop I installed 10 on to see how well
that would go and it went fine and the laptop is actually much more
responsive then before.
Mileage seems to vary.
 
On 25-June-2016 7:51 AM, Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 22:29:54 +0200, BuckyBalls <"The Pres"@yahoo.com
wrote:

Well, luckily I'm in the EU and the EU and Microsoft do not go well
together in legal matters.

Looks like Scotland and Northern Ireland will do a UKEXIT.
Stupid cunts who voted to leave, they will see business LEAVE the UK in
droves now. The Pound has already crashed.
Scotland and Ireland may end up being the only EU members left?
Seems all the lies and deceit have voters browned off worldwide
Click to expand...

socialist agenda and mass immigration is what caused it


--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/
 
On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 11:10:41 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 25-June-2016 7:51 AM, Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 22:29:54 +0200, BuckyBalls <"The Pres"@yahoo.com
wrote:

Well, luckily I'm in the EU and the EU and Microsoft do not go well
together in legal matters.

Looks like Scotland and Northern Ireland will do a UKEXIT.
Stupid cunts who voted to leave, they will see business LEAVE the UK in
droves now. The Pound has already crashed.
Scotland and Ireland may end up being the only EU members left?
Seems all the lies and deceit have voters browned off worldwide

socialist agenda and mass immigration is what caused it
Click to expand...

Even the HM the Queen is pleased that now Britian will be able to
deport errorists.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/22/her-majesty-the-eurosceptic-queen-eu-courts-denigrate-britain-by-protecting-terrorists/
http://bit.ly/28Ze6OB

My guess is that the UK Brexit places Australia and other nations
(Britian included) on a level trading platform, should be good for
Australian exports Agriculture particularly.
Australia needs better politicians than the corrupt mess we have now.
Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
Or you are voting for Islam and Sharia.
--
Petzl
The Brexit vote is a rejection of globalisation. Also a rejection of the 1% who are the beneficiaries of globalisation. The Brexit voters are the 99%.. and theTrumps supporters. They are Howards Battlers in seats like Lindsay - currently being wooed by both Labor and the LNP but increasingly looking for 3rd options. Scarily they are also the Murdoch/tabloid/shock jock audience.

It might be worth looking at the causes of this widespread mass disaffection. It is a fact that we are seeing ever growing inequality of income, asset ownership, opportunity, employment, healthcare, education standards etc. This inequality is well advanced in the USA, Britain, Western Europe, Australia and elsewhere.

The neo-con trickledown stuff isn't working. People everywhere are being squeezed across the world. Brexit is a first major push back. It won't be the last. We will see Nexit and Frexit in the Eurozone sooner than we might want.

Brexit is the start of something big and there's no way of knowing where it will lead. We might all end up in a better place if we can tame unfettered capitalism.
 
On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 03:47:38 -0000 (UTC), news16 <news16@woa.com.au>
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 11:34:36 +1000, Petzl wrote:

Or you are voting for Islam and Sharia.


Sounds good. BYE.
Click to expand...

bye
--
Petzl
https://youtu.be/7vaIugroTek
Richo talks about Malcolm Turnbull begging him for a safe Labor Seat.
"I fancy Malcolm is like a big red bunger. light him up, there’s a bit of a fizz but then nothing, nothing." - Keating
http://www.ipe.net.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/turnbull-lansbury.pdf
http://tinyurl.com/Vote-Labor-Vote-Turnbull
 
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 17:18:10 +1000, Don McKenzie wrote:

Don’t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July
29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents
this virus from entering my system :)
Click to expand...

You may want to check this other ultra light program that blocks any
attempt at forcing the "upgrade".
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm

Or better completely eradicate the problem.
https://www.debian.org/
https://blends.debian.org/science/tasks/electronics

I Already upgraded to Linux over 15 years ago, totally immune since then:)
 
On 25-June-2016 11:44 PM, asdf wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 17:18:10 +1000, Don McKenzie wrote:

Don’t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July
29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents
this virus from entering my system :)
You may want to check this other ultra light program that blocks any
attempt at forcing the "upgrade".
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm

Or better completely eradicate the problem.
https://www.debian.org/
https://blends.debian.org/science/tasks/electronics

I Already upgraded to Linux over 15 years ago, totally immune since then:)
Click to expand...

I've noticed that the upgrade icon has disappeared from this PC. I don't
recall doing anything with/to it. ??


--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/
 
On 25/06/2016 10:38 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 25/06/2016 8:00 AM, Xeno wrote:
On 25/06/2016 2:45 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 24/06/2016 3:18 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:

Don’t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July
29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents
this virus from entering my system :)


Heh. My parents asked me to do the "free" upgrade because a family
friend promised them it would make their laptop run faster and it is
FREE! and free is good right?

I said no, stick with Windows 7... really.

So they ignored my advice and got their neighbour to do do the
"upgrade". Now they want me to remove it... sigh... because their laptop
runs slow.

Sheez...

A few days back I upgraded? this desktop to Win10. After seeing all the
hassles other people had when upgrading whilst Win10 was new, I thought
to wait a while till bugs were sorted. The upgrade went without a hitch.
Seems just as fast a before. It's a Q6700 Quadcore so it's no slouch.
Seems to work ok. The way I figure it, I have nothing to lose. I have
the original Win8.1 DVD so if it pisses me off I'll just revert back to
that OS level.
I also have a Q6600 beast here running Win7 so I might just give that a
go on the upgrade and see how it works.

The reason I thought I'd give the upgrade a go was that my brother in
Tasmania bought a Win8.1 equipped HP computer and I upgraded it to Win10
while I was visiting him a few weeks back. That was a low powered
computer and it went as well or better after the upgrade. Anyway, he's
happy enough with it. ;-)



I've got a junker dual-core laptop I installed 10 on to see how well
that would go and it went fine and the laptop is actually much more
responsive then before.
Mileage seems to vary.
Click to expand...

FWIW, I have Win 10 (all 64 bit) running happily (as good as Win 7 ever
did) on all of the following:

ASUS Z77 based home-built system - installed via online upgrade from Win
7, required freeing up space on one of the hidden boot partitions
(instructions easily found)

Lenovo T530 laptop - installed via downloaded ISO over Win 8.1, no issues.

iMac 12.2 (ca mid 2011) via Bootcamp - installed via ISO over a clean in
stall of licensed copy of Win 7, no issues.

Ok, it takes a small bit of effort to kill the telemetry but otherwise I
don't know what all the troggs are scared of.

--
Cheers,
Chris.
 
On 27/06/2016 3:56 PM, Chris wrote:
On 25/06/2016 10:38 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 25/06/2016 8:00 AM, Xeno wrote:
On 25/06/2016 2:45 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 24/06/2016 3:18 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:

Don’t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July
29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents
this virus from entering my system :)


Heh. My parents asked me to do the "free" upgrade because a family
friend promised them it would make their laptop run faster and it is
FREE! and free is good right?

I said no, stick with Windows 7... really.

So they ignored my advice and got their neighbour to do do the
"upgrade". Now they want me to remove it... sigh... because their
laptop
runs slow.

Sheez...

A few days back I upgraded? this desktop to Win10. After seeing all the
hassles other people had when upgrading whilst Win10 was new, I thought
to wait a while till bugs were sorted. The upgrade went without a hitch.
Seems just as fast a before. It's a Q6700 Quadcore so it's no slouch.
Seems to work ok. The way I figure it, I have nothing to lose. I have
the original Win8.1 DVD so if it pisses me off I'll just revert back to
that OS level.
I also have a Q6600 beast here running Win7 so I might just give that a
go on the upgrade and see how it works.

The reason I thought I'd give the upgrade a go was that my brother in
Tasmania bought a Win8.1 equipped HP computer and I upgraded it to Win10
while I was visiting him a few weeks back. That was a low powered
computer and it went as well or better after the upgrade. Anyway, he's
happy enough with it. ;-)



I've got a junker dual-core laptop I installed 10 on to see how well
that would go and it went fine and the laptop is actually much more
responsive then before.
Mileage seems to vary.


FWIW, I have Win 10 (all 64 bit) running happily (as good as Win 7 ever
did) on all of the following:

ASUS Z77 based home-built system - installed via online upgrade from Win
7, required freeing up space on one of the hidden boot partitions
(instructions easily found)

Lenovo T530 laptop - installed via downloaded ISO over Win 8.1, no issues.

iMac 12.2 (ca mid 2011) via Bootcamp - installed via ISO over a clean in
stall of licensed copy of Win 7, no issues.

Ok, it takes a small bit of effort to kill the telemetry but otherwise I
don't know what all the troggs are scared of.

--
Cheers,
Chris.
Click to expand...
I had issues with the pre-release version (Insider) so I thought I'd
wait until now to allow them to get all of those sorted. Seems M$ has it
sorted as my 'upgrade' from 8.1 the other day worked ok. I still have to
do a Win 7 upgrade to 10 on another similar computer as well as a
Virtual Win7 running under Parallels Desktop on my MacPro.

--

Xeno

First they ignore you,
Then they ridicule you,
Then they fight you,
Then you win.

Mahatma Ghandi
 
Xeno wrote:
On 27/06/2016 3:56 PM, Chris wrote:
On 25/06/2016 10:38 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 25/06/2016 8:00 AM, Xeno wrote:
On 25/06/2016 2:45 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 24/06/2016 3:18 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:

Don’t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on July
29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that prevents
this virus from entering my system :)


Heh. My parents asked me to do the "free" upgrade because a family
friend promised them it would make their laptop run faster and it is
FREE! and free is good right?

I said no, stick with Windows 7... really.

So they ignored my advice and got their neighbour to do do the
"upgrade". Now they want me to remove it... sigh... because their
laptop
runs slow.

Sheez...

A few days back I upgraded? this desktop to Win10. After seeing all the
hassles other people had when upgrading whilst Win10 was new, I thought
to wait a while till bugs were sorted. The upgrade went without a
hitch.
Seems just as fast a before. It's a Q6700 Quadcore so it's no slouch.
Seems to work ok. The way I figure it, I have nothing to lose. I have
the original Win8.1 DVD so if it pisses me off I'll just revert back to
that OS level.
I also have a Q6600 beast here running Win7 so I might just give that a
go on the upgrade and see how it works.

The reason I thought I'd give the upgrade a go was that my brother in
Tasmania bought a Win8.1 equipped HP computer and I upgraded it to
Win10
while I was visiting him a few weeks back. That was a low powered
computer and it went as well or better after the upgrade. Anyway, he's
happy enough with it. ;-)



I've got a junker dual-core laptop I installed 10 on to see how well
that would go and it went fine and the laptop is actually much more
responsive then before.
Mileage seems to vary.


FWIW, I have Win 10 (all 64 bit) running happily (as good as Win 7 ever
did) on all of the following:

ASUS Z77 based home-built system - installed via online upgrade from Win
7, required freeing up space on one of the hidden boot partitions
(instructions easily found)

Lenovo T530 laptop - installed via downloaded ISO over Win 8.1, no
issues.

iMac 12.2 (ca mid 2011) via Bootcamp - installed via ISO over a clean in
stall of licensed copy of Win 7, no issues.

Ok, it takes a small bit of effort to kill the telemetry but otherwise I
don't know what all the troggs are scared of.

--
Cheers,
Chris.

I had issues with the pre-release version (Insider) so I thought I'd
wait until now to allow them to get all of those sorted. Seems M$ has it
sorted as my 'upgrade' from 8.1 the other day worked ok. I still have to
do a Win 7 upgrade to 10 on another similar computer as well as a
Virtual Win7 running under Parallels Desktop on my MacPro.
Click to expand...
My upgrade worked out a long time ago except win 10 did not and neither
did reverting and I had to completely wipe to reinstall win 8.1
 
On 27/06/2016 6:08 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 27/06/2016 3:56 PM, Chris wrote:
On 25/06/2016 10:38 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 25/06/2016 8:00 AM, Xeno wrote:
On 25/06/2016 2:45 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 24/06/2016 3:18 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:

Don’t miss out! The free upgrade offer to Windows 10 will end on
July
29, 2016.

Thank goodness. I can soon remove my GWX control panel, that
prevents
this virus from entering my system :)


Heh. My parents asked me to do the "free" upgrade because a family
friend promised them it would make their laptop run faster and it is
FREE! and free is good right?

I said no, stick with Windows 7... really.

So they ignored my advice and got their neighbour to do do the
"upgrade". Now they want me to remove it... sigh... because their
laptop
runs slow.

Sheez...

A few days back I upgraded? this desktop to Win10. After seeing all
the
hassles other people had when upgrading whilst Win10 was new, I
thought
to wait a while till bugs were sorted. The upgrade went without a
hitch.
Seems just as fast a before. It's a Q6700 Quadcore so it's no slouch.
Seems to work ok. The way I figure it, I have nothing to lose. I have
the original Win8.1 DVD so if it pisses me off I'll just revert
back to
that OS level.
I also have a Q6600 beast here running Win7 so I might just give
that a
go on the upgrade and see how it works.

The reason I thought I'd give the upgrade a go was that my brother in
Tasmania bought a Win8.1 equipped HP computer and I upgraded it to
Win10
while I was visiting him a few weeks back. That was a low powered
computer and it went as well or better after the upgrade. Anyway, he's
happy enough with it. ;-)



I've got a junker dual-core laptop I installed 10 on to see how well
that would go and it went fine and the laptop is actually much more
responsive then before.
Mileage seems to vary.


FWIW, I have Win 10 (all 64 bit) running happily (as good as Win 7 ever
did) on all of the following:

ASUS Z77 based home-built system - installed via online upgrade from Win
7, required freeing up space on one of the hidden boot partitions
(instructions easily found)

Lenovo T530 laptop - installed via downloaded ISO over Win 8.1, no
issues.

iMac 12.2 (ca mid 2011) via Bootcamp - installed via ISO over a clean in
stall of licensed copy of Win 7, no issues.

Ok, it takes a small bit of effort to kill the telemetry but otherwise I
don't know what all the troggs are scared of.

--
Cheers,
Chris.

I had issues with the pre-release version (Insider) so I thought I'd
wait until now to allow them to get all of those sorted. Seems M$ has it
sorted as my 'upgrade' from 8.1 the other day worked ok. I still have to
do a Win 7 upgrade to 10 on another similar computer as well as a
Virtual Win7 running under Parallels Desktop on my MacPro.

My upgrade worked out a long time ago except win 10 did not and neither
did reverting and I had to completely wipe to reinstall win 8.1
Click to expand...

Yes, I saw lots of postings about the issues on various forums and
decided to wait it out.

--

Xeno

First they ignore you,
Then they ridicule you,
Then they fight you,
Then you win.

Mahatma Ghandi
 
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