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LittleAlex
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spam
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Robert Melson
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[Posted and mailed]
In article <1ab89fa6-2525-4837-a5c1-56b65f9551d6@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
LittleAlex <alex.louie@email.com> writes:
out, please?
<plonk!>
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Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
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Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable
reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford
In article <1ab89fa6-2525-4837-a5c1-56b65f9551d6@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
LittleAlex <alex.louie@email.com> writes:
Yes, Alex, your postings ARE newsgroup spam. Wanna cut itspam
out, please?
<plonk!>
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Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
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Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable
reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford
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Jason Zheng
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:47:39 -0500
melsonr@aragorn.rgmhome.net (Robert Melson) wrote:
--
I put instant coffee in a microwave and almost went back in time.
-- Steven Wright
melsonr@aragorn.rgmhome.net (Robert Melson) wrote:
complaint email to groups-abuse@google.comIn article
1ab89fa6-2525-4837-a5c1-56b65f9551d6@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
LittleAlex <alex.louie@email.com> writes:
spam
Yes, Alex, your postings ARE newsgroup spam. Wanna cut it
out, please?
plonk!
Best way to stop abuse from google groups posters is to send your
--
I put instant coffee in a microwave and almost went back in time.
-- Steven Wright
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Dave Uhring
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:08:08 -0700, Jason Zheng wrote:
%BOS
[*.sendmail]
Score: =-9999
%Expires
Message-ID: googlegroups.com
%EOS
Complete waste of effort. This is the best way:Best way to stop abuse from google groups posters is to send your
complaint email to groups-abuse@google.com
%BOS
[*.sendmail]
Score: =-9999
%Expires
Message-ID: googlegroups.com
%EOS
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Doug Miller
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In article <20081022160808.0c24042c@wolfenstein.jpl.nasa.gov>, Jason Zheng <Xin.Zheng@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
What planet are *you* on?Best way to stop abuse from google groups posters is to send your
complaint email to groups-abuse@google.com
On *my* planet, Google completely ignores complaints.
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Robert Melson
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In article <20081022160808.0c24042c@wolfenstein.jpl.nasa.gov>,
Jason Zheng <Xin.Zheng@jpl.nasa.gov> writes:
or for email spam originating at gmail. You get, if you get
anything, a generalized wave of the hands, a statement to
the effect "we don't censor our subscribers" and a complete
washing of the hands. Complaining to google is pissing in the
wind.
One has the choice of blocking the sender, blocking the thread
or blocking based on message-id/origin. Alex is, as you can
see, in my killfile; killing the thread .. well, the subject is
just too broad to effectively do the job and, unfortunately, my
newsreader of choice doesn't do message-id kills.
Sigh.
--
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
-----
Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable
reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford
Jason Zheng <Xin.Zheng@jpl.nasa.gov> writes:
normally takes no responsibility for crap posted via groupsOn Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:47:39 -0500
melsonr@aragorn.rgmhome.net (Robert Melson) wrote:
[Posted and mailed]
In article
1ab89fa6-2525-4837-a5c1-56b65f9551d6@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
LittleAlex <alex.louie@email.com> writes:
spam
Yes, Alex, your postings ARE newsgroup spam. Wanna cut it
out, please?
plonk!
Best way to stop abuse from google groups posters is to send your
complaint email to groups-abuse@google.com
Sorry, Jason, but Wes, Dave and Doug have it right - google
or for email spam originating at gmail. You get, if you get
anything, a generalized wave of the hands, a statement to
the effect "we don't censor our subscribers" and a complete
washing of the hands. Complaining to google is pissing in the
wind.
One has the choice of blocking the sender, blocking the thread
or blocking based on message-id/origin. Alex is, as you can
see, in my killfile; killing the thread .. well, the subject is
just too broad to effectively do the job and, unfortunately, my
newsreader of choice doesn't do message-id kills.
Sigh.
--
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
-----
Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable
reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford
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Robert Miles
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"Doug Miller" <spambait@milmac.com> wrote in message
news:BgSLk.3105$Ei5.2059@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com...
complaints that match their definition of spam - which may
not match yours - but often takes complaints about each
instance of the spam for about 6 weeks to do it. I doubt
if frequent posts with "spam" in the title, but no ads in the
body of the posts, would match their definition.
They are, however, much more active at blocking anything
that matches their definition from reaching anyone who
used Google Groups to read the posts.
news:BgSLk.3105$Ei5.2059@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com...
I'm on Earth, where Google Groups eventually acts againstIn article <20081022160808.0c24042c@wolfenstein.jpl.nasa.gov>, Jason Zheng
Xin.Zheng@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
Best way to stop abuse from google groups posters is to send your
complaint email to groups-abuse@google.com
On *my* planet, Google completely ignores complaints.
What planet are *you* on?
..
complaints that match their definition of spam - which may
not match yours - but often takes complaints about each
instance of the spam for about 6 weeks to do it. I doubt
if frequent posts with "spam" in the title, but no ads in the
body of the posts, would match their definition.
They are, however, much more active at blocking anything
that matches their definition from reaching anyone who
used Google Groups to read the posts.
Guest
On Oct 23, 12:56 am, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...@bellsouthNOSPAM.net>
wrote:
is a couple of days. See the problem now?
In my experience, Google has never done a thing to curb spam. In some
cases, they do less than nothing.
<rant>
Google is the new evil. Just as MS decided how people were to use
computers and forced that model on people, Google is deciding on how
people are to use The Internet, and is forcing that model on all their
users. Argh.
</rant>
wrote:
You say it takes Google 6 weeks to act, yet the life-span of the spam"Doug Miller" <spamb...@milmac.com> wrote in message
news:BgSLk.3105$Ei5.2059@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com...> In article <20081022160808.0c240...@wolfenstein.jpl.nasa.gov>, Jason Zheng
Xin.Zh...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
Best way to stop abuse from google groups posters is to send your
complaint email to groups-ab...@google.com
On *my* planet, Google completely ignores complaints.
What planet are *you* on?
.
I'm on Earth, where Google Groups eventually acts against
complaints that match their definition of spam - which may
not match yours - but often takes complaints about each
instance of the spam for about 6 weeks to do it. I doubt
if frequent posts with "spam" in the title, but no ads in the
body of the posts, would match their definition.
They are, however, much more active at blocking anything
that matches their definition from reaching anyone who
used Google Groups to read the posts.
is a couple of days. See the problem now?
In my experience, Google has never done a thing to curb spam. In some
cases, they do less than nothing.
<rant>
Google is the new evil. Just as MS decided how people were to use
computers and forced that model on people, Google is deciding on how
people are to use The Internet, and is forcing that model on all their
users. Argh.
</rant>
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Michael J. Mahon
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d_s_klein@yahoo.com wrote:
the newsgroups I read. If anything, it's on the decline.
Maybe it's time to chill out about spam...
and methods to interact with the Internet, many of them quite "open"
to adaptation by interested users.
When *any* player is chosen by more than 3/4 of the market, they
naturally acquire significant influence on the direction of the
technology. Google at least lets you "vote" about how you'd like
to see things go. It's hard to see how they could be more responsive
to their huge user base than they are.
It's easy to forget that success is as much a straitjacket as an
enabler--any change you make will annoy almost as many people (since
its a change) as it pleases. Put another way, the price of success
is compatibility. ;-)
We should hope that Microsoft will become equally responsive! ;-)
-michael
******** Note new website URL ********
NadaNet and AppleCrate II for Apple II parallel computing!
Home page: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon/
"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."
I don't see spam as much of an issue, either in my email or inOn Oct 23, 12:56 am, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...@bellsouthNOSPAM.net
wrote:
"Doug Miller" <spamb...@milmac.com> wrote in message
news:BgSLk.3105$Ei5.2059@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com...> In article <20081022160808.0c240...@wolfenstein.jpl.nasa.gov>, Jason Zheng
Xin.Zh...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
Best way to stop abuse from google groups posters is to send your
complaint email to groups-ab...@google.com
On *my* planet, Google completely ignores complaints.
What planet are *you* on?
.
I'm on Earth, where Google Groups eventually acts against
complaints that match their definition of spam - which may
not match yours - but often takes complaints about each
instance of the spam for about 6 weeks to do it. I doubt
if frequent posts with "spam" in the title, but no ads in the
body of the posts, would match their definition.
They are, however, much more active at blocking anything
that matches their definition from reaching anyone who
used Google Groups to read the posts.
You say it takes Google 6 weeks to act, yet the life-span of the spam
is a couple of days. See the problem now?
In my experience, Google has never done a thing to curb spam. In some
cases, they do less than nothing.
the newsgroups I read. If anything, it's on the decline.
Maybe it's time to chill out about spam...
Actually, Google presents a fairly wide range of experimental toolsrant
Google is the new evil. Just as MS decided how people were to use
computers and forced that model on people, Google is deciding on how
people are to use The Internet, and is forcing that model on all their
users. Argh.
/rant
and methods to interact with the Internet, many of them quite "open"
to adaptation by interested users.
When *any* player is chosen by more than 3/4 of the market, they
naturally acquire significant influence on the direction of the
technology. Google at least lets you "vote" about how you'd like
to see things go. It's hard to see how they could be more responsive
to their huge user base than they are.
It's easy to forget that success is as much a straitjacket as an
enabler--any change you make will annoy almost as many people (since
its a change) as it pleases. Put another way, the price of success
is compatibility. ;-)
We should hope that Microsoft will become equally responsive! ;-)
-michael
******** Note new website URL ********
NadaNet and AppleCrate II for Apple II parallel computing!
Home page: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon/
"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."