The Dims want to jam EVs down our collective throats...

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Flyguy

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-regulation-congress-white-house-economy-fc63c5d9?mod=trending_now_opn_2

Passenger cars would have to achieve 66.4 miles a gallon in 2032, up from 44.1 mpg last year. The ramp-up for trucks and SUVs is even steeper—to 54.4 mpg from 32.1 mpg. Auto makers will have no way to comply but to make more EVs.

Here’s the kicker: The Energy Department is also proposing to reduce the “miles per gallon equivalent” for EVs. For example, the F-150 Lightning’s rating would decline to 67 mpg from 237 mpg. This means auto makers will have to produce even more EVs to meet Cafe mandates. They’ll be fined if they fall short.

A GM presentation to the White House estimated that industry penalties could total $300 billion, or about $4,300 per vehicle, from 2027 to 2031. Consumers and workers will pay the cost, and for what? The Administration claims the proposal will reduce CO2 emissions through 2050 by 885 million metric tons—about half as much as Canada’s wildfires are projected to release this year.
 
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:44:34 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
<a bunch of pointless crap that shows he can\'t read>

I want to pass a law that prohibits you from ever owning or driving an EV of any type. Is that ok with you? Then, maybe you will shut your yap, and quit complaining about something that will never impact you.

Oh, if you want us to read the WSJ article, you need to share your ID and password.

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Rick C.

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On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 9:15:49 PM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:44:34 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
a bunch of pointless crap that shows he can\'t read

I want to pass a law that prohibits you from ever owning or driving an EV of any type. Is that ok with you? Then, maybe you will shut your yap, and quit complaining about something that will never impact you.

Oh, if you want us to read the WSJ article, you need to share your ID and password.

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Rick C.

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- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Just vote yourself in as the new Hitler and you can do anything you want.

No, if you want to read the full WSJ article SUBSCRIBE like I do.
 
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:49:59 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 9:15:49 PM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:44:34 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
a bunch of pointless crap that shows he can\'t read

I want to pass a law that prohibits you from ever owning or driving an EV of any type. Is that ok with you? Then, maybe you will shut your yap, and quit complaining about something that will never impact you.

Oh, if you want us to read the WSJ article, you need to share your ID and password.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Just vote yourself in as the new Hitler and you can do anything you want.

No, if you want to read the full WSJ article SUBSCRIBE like I do.

The only thing is, no one gives a crap what you think is important. My electron guzzler gets at least 3 miles to the kWh, sometimes 4. That\'s all I need to know to realize it is great at getting me around in quiet and comfort.

I really feel so good knowing I\'m not suffering like Ed Lee.

Of course, no one cares what you drive, because you are pretty much inconsequential, having no impact on anyone, or any thing.

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Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 9:54:49 PM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:49:59 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 9:15:49 PM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:44:34 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
a bunch of pointless crap that shows he can\'t read

I want to pass a law that prohibits you from ever owning or driving an EV of any type. Is that ok with you? Then, maybe you will shut your yap, and quit complaining about something that will never impact you.

Oh, if you want us to read the WSJ article, you need to share your ID and password.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Just vote yourself in as the new Hitler and you can do anything you want.

No, if you want to read the full WSJ article SUBSCRIBE like I do.
The only thing is, no one gives a crap what you think is important. My electron guzzler gets at least 3 miles to the kWh, sometimes 4. That\'s all I need to know to realize it is great at getting me around in quiet and comfort.

I really feel so good knowing I\'m not suffering like Ed Lee.

Of course, no one cares what you drive, because you are pretty much inconsequential, having no impact on anyone, or any thing.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Hey Ricky BooBoo, the SAME goes for you - DOUBLE! Just try taking that lithium bomb over the blue highways.
 
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:57:05 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 9:54:49 PM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:49:59 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 9:15:49 PM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:44:34 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

<snip>
Of course, no one cares what you drive, because you are pretty much inconsequential, having no impact on anyone, or any thing.

Hey Ricky BooBoo, the SAME goes for you - DOUBLE! Just try taking that lithium bomb over the blue highways.

Sewage Sweeper hasn\'t noticed that shippers who have put in adequate fire-control system are insured to ship electric vehicles by boat.

His capacity to read stuff in ways that suit his point of view is well known. His capacity to realise that he has got stuff wrong is zero.
He gets read because jeering at his mistakes is easy and fun. And it isn\'t even unkind - he just sees himself as heroic defender of what he imagines to be the truth.

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On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 9:54:49 PM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:49:59 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 9:15:49 PM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:44:34 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
a bunch of pointless crap that shows he can\'t read

I want to pass a law that prohibits you from ever owning or driving an EV of any type. Is that ok with you? Then, maybe you will shut your yap, and quit complaining about something that will never impact you.

Oh, if you want us to read the WSJ article, you need to share your ID and password.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Just vote yourself in as the new Hitler and you can do anything you want.

No, if you want to read the full WSJ article SUBSCRIBE like I do.
The only thing is, no one gives a crap what you think is important. My electron guzzler gets at least 3 miles to the kWh, sometimes 4. That\'s all I need to know to realize it is great at getting me around in quiet and comfort.

I really feel so good knowing I\'m not suffering like Ed Lee.

Ed Lee is not suffering, just experimenting. Sometimes just side-tracked. For example, right now he is trying to figure out an adapter to fit in the 20,000 pound ball joint press.
 
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:15:49 AM UTC-4, Ricky wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:44:34 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
a bunch of pointless crap that shows he can\'t read

I want to pass a law that prohibits you from ever owning or driving an EV of any type. Is that ok with you? Then, maybe you will shut your yap, and quit complaining about something that will never impact you.

Oh, if you want us to read the WSJ article, you need to share your ID and password.

https://www.autoweek.com/news/a44689880/new-federal-emissions-mpg-cafe-rules/

None of it makes any difference because all indications are modern civilization will be extinct sometime soon.


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Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 2:12:01 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:15:49 AM UTC-4, Ricky wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:44:34 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
a bunch of pointless crap that shows he can\'t read

I want to pass a law that prohibits you from ever owning or driving an EV of any type. Is that ok with you? Then, maybe you will shut your yap, and quit complaining about something that will never impact you.

Oh, if you want us to read the WSJ article, you need to share your ID and password.
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a44689880/new-federal-emissions-mpg-cafe-rules/

None of it makes any difference because all indications are modern civilization will be extinct sometime soon.

It only looks that way if you are as silly as Fred. We might manage a population crash, but the survivors should be able to sustain communications and hang onto most of our data. We might need to purge everything ever published by the Murdoch media, but it could be argued that we won\'t rate a modern civilisation until we get around to doing that. It is a residual barabarism.

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Bil Sloman, Sydney
 
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:27:46 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 2:12:01 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:15:49 AM UTC-4, Ricky wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:44:34 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
a bunch of pointless crap that shows he can\'t read

I want to pass a law that prohibits you from ever owning or driving an EV of any type. Is that ok with you? Then, maybe you will shut your yap, and quit complaining about something that will never impact you.

Oh, if you want us to read the WSJ article, you need to share your ID and password.
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a44689880/new-federal-emissions-mpg-cafe-rules/

None of it makes any difference because all indications are modern civilization will be extinct sometime soon.
It only looks that way if you are as silly as Fred. We might manage a population crash, but the survivors should be able to sustain communications and hang onto most of our data. We might need to purge everything ever published by the Murdoch media, but it could be argued that we won\'t rate a modern civilisation until we get around to doing that. It is a residual barabarism.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2210525119


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Bil Sloman, Sydney
 
On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:38:44 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:27:46 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 2:12:01 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:15:49 AM UTC-4, Ricky wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:44:34 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
a bunch of pointless crap that shows he can\'t read

I want to pass a law that prohibits you from ever owning or driving an EV of any type. Is that ok with you? Then, maybe you will shut your yap, and quit complaining about something that will never impact you.

Oh, if you want us to read the WSJ article, you need to share your ID and password.
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a44689880/new-federal-emissions-mpg-cafe-rules/

None of it makes any difference because all indications are modern civilization will be extinct sometime soon.

It only looks that way if you are as silly as Fred. We might manage a population crash, but the survivors should be able to sustain communications and hang onto most of our data. We might need to purge everything ever published by the Murdoch media, but it could be argued that we won\'t rate a modern civilisation until we get around to doing that. It is a residual barbarism.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2210525119

It says we should think about what might do it - it isn\'t any kind of prediction.

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Bil Sloman, Sydney
 

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