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People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
\"promoting climate denial,
People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 5:00:44 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:51:50 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 3:36:56 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:20:49 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 2:28:17 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 9:08:39 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee..org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:44:19 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:24:15 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
What is in denial are the climate fanatics claim that rising CO2 levels are the driving force in climate change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum
Natural increases in CO2 level have had that effect in the past. It\'s scarcely \"fanatical\" to suggest that our contribution will have the same effect.
It is not even clear that the rise in CO2 levels is due to human activity, let alone that this is the driving force.
Not clear to Gnatguy, who is cognitively challenged.
I have ALREADY produced a scientific study that backs that statement up.
The usual climate change denial propaganda, tricked up to look like a scientific paper - Gnatguy is gullible.
Bill responds with NOTHING! I repeat, NOTHING!!! If he had a scientific study that REFUTED the one I posted, he would POST IT, but he DOESN\'T!!!1
Bill has produce NOTHING in response.
Apart from the observation that is was climate change denial propaganda.
Again, Bill just replies with RETHORIC, not with FACTS. That is because he HAS NO FACTS!
That it was climate change denial propaganda is a fact. Taking it any more seriously than that would be a waste of time. Debating such questions with Gnatguy is a waste of time - he merely ignores the arguments and reposts his fatuous delusions. That\'s repetition, not even rhetoric.
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Did you notice that the SNIPPERMAN SNIPPED my embarrassing comments/questions like:
OZ doesn\'t give a SHIT about \"climate change\" - they use FOSSIL FUELS because they are the CHEAPEST.
I snipped it because it isn\'t true. The Australian electricity supply industry uses as little fossil fuel as it can - not from ideological conviction, but because it is cheaper to use solar cells and wind turbines whenever they are supplying power. If we had more grid scale storage we could burn even less fossil carbon, and the Snowy Mountains hydroelectric scheme is being reworked to provide a lot of pumped storage and there are a bunch of grid scale batteries on order.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornsdale_Power_Reserve
was the first, supplied by Tesla, and it has been expanded. More are in the pipeline. And there\'s a lot more renewable generation in the pipeline, including a couple of off-shore wind farms. The Australian mining industry doesn\'t like it at all, but they bribed the Liberal-National Party who lost the last election, in part because of their devotion to coal mining.
Hey Bozo, what PERCENTAGE of the grid is pumped storage?
None of it. The grid transmits power. Pumped storage and batteries store it. It\'s a different job. if you had a brain in your head you might have asked what percentage of the grid\'s peak output could come from pumped storage and batteries, or how long they could deliver that maximum output, which are questions that could be answered (but I\'m not going to bother to try to answer either, since the answer is not all that much - at the moment).
Come on, give us the Facts! And batteries, are you out of your FUCKING MIND???
Unlike you, I do have a mind. And I am tolerably sane. You can\'t even ask a coherent question, and you certainly can\'t understand the answers.
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:24:15 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
What is in denial are the climate fanatics claim that rising CO2 levels are the driving force in climate change.
On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 7:49:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 5:00:44 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:51:50 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 3:36:56 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:20:49 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 2:28:17 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 9:08:39 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:44:19 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:24:15 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
What is in denial are the climate fanatics claim that rising CO2 levels are the driving force in climate change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum
Natural increases in CO2 level have had that effect in the past. It\'s scarcely \"fanatical\" to suggest that our contribution will have the same effect.
It is not even clear that the rise in CO2 levels is due to human activity, let alone that this is the driving force.
Not clear to Gnatguy, who is cognitively challenged.
I have ALREADY produced a scientific study that backs that statement up.
The usual climate change denial propaganda, tricked up to look like a scientific paper - Gnatguy is gullible.
Bill responds with NOTHING! I repeat, NOTHING!!! If he had a scientific study that REFUTED the one I posted, he would POST IT, but he DOESN\'T!!!1
Bill has produce NOTHING in response.
Apart from the observation that is was climate change denial propaganda.
Again, Bill just replies with RETHORIC, not with FACTS. That is because he HAS NO FACTS!
That it was climate change denial propaganda is a fact. Taking it any more seriously than that would be a waste of time. Debating such questions with Gnatguy is a waste of time - he merely ignores the arguments and reposts his fatuous delusions. That\'s repetition, not even rhetoric.
snip
Did you notice that the SNIPPERMAN SNIPPED my embarrassing comments/questions like:
OZ doesn\'t give a SHIT about \"climate change\" - they use FOSSIL FUELS because they are the CHEAPEST.
I snipped it because it isn\'t true. The Australian electricity supply industry uses as little fossil fuel as it can - not from ideological conviction, but because it is cheaper to use solar cells and wind turbines whenever they are supplying power. If we had more grid scale storage we could burn even less fossil carbon, and the Snowy Mountains hydroelectric scheme is being reworked to provide a lot of pumped storage and there are a bunch of grid scale batteries on order.
You snipped it because you DIDN\'T HAVE AN ANSWER, BOZO! REALLY, they use \"as little fossil fuel as it can\"? Do you think that
Joe Biden would accept that? HELL NO! He has declared that the US will BE carbon neutral in just SEVEN YEARS!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornsdale_Power_Reserve
was the first, supplied by Tesla, and it has been expanded. More are in the pipeline. And there\'s a lot more renewable generation in the pipeline, including a couple of off-shore wind farms. The Australian mining industry doesn\'t like it at all, but they bribed the Liberal-National Party who lost the last election, in part because of their devotion to coal mining.
Pumped storage IS NOT how it is generated, Bozo - it is STORAGE!
Hey Bozo, what PERCENTAGE of the grid is pumped storage?
None of it. The grid transmits power. Pumped storage and batteries store it. It\'s a different job. if you had a brain in your head you might have asked what percentage of the grid\'s peak output could come from pumped storage and batteries, or how long they could deliver that maximum output, which are questions that could be answered (but I\'m not going to bother to try to answer either, since the answer is not all that much - at the moment).
You don\'t know WHAT THE FUCK you are talking about - storage IS a part of the grid, Bozo!
Come on, give us the Facts! And batteries, are you out of your FUCKING MIND???
Unlike you, I do have a mind. And I am tolerably sane. You can\'t even ask a coherent question, and you certainly can\'t understand the answers.
No you don\'t Bill, you ARE the laughing stock of SED!!!!
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:44:19 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:24:15 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
What is in denial are the climate fanatics claim that rising CO2 levels are the driving force in climate change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum
Natural increases in CO2 level have had that effect in the past. It\'s scarcely \"fanatical\" to suggest that our contribution will have the same effect.
It is not even clear that the rise in CO2 levels is due to human activity, let alone that this is the driving force.
Not clear to Gnatguy, who is cognitively challenged.
Utilities ARE NOT tasked with changing the climate - they deliver electricity, natural gas, water, and sewage disposal to their customers. If you force them to use more expensive, less reliable sources of power they will do so, but pass the cost along to their customers. Worst case, they will HAVE TO shut off these utilities to their customers, as California is now doing. Period. End of story.
Except that solar cells are the cheapest source of electric power around, and wind turbines are close behind.
This might not have been true back when Gnatguy had a working brain, but it is true now,
Their reliablity isn\'t ideal, but coupled with adequate grid storage they will be a perfectly adequate source of electric power when the generating companies get around to building enough of them.
The fossil carbon extraction industry doesn\'t like this - their cash flow is going to go into terminal decline when it happens - so they spend a lot on lying propaganda aimed at gullible half-wits like Gnatguy in the hope of deferring that for a while. It\'s irresponsible idiocy, but it does make money.
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 9:08:39 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:44:19 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:24:15 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
What is in denial are the climate fanatics claim that rising CO2 levels are the driving force in climate change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum
Natural increases in CO2 level have had that effect in the past. It\'s scarcely \"fanatical\" to suggest that our contribution will have the same effect.
It is not even clear that the rise in CO2 levels is due to human activity, let alone that this is the driving force.
Not clear to Gnatguy, who is cognitively challenged.
I have ALREADY produced a scientific study that backs that statement up.
Utilities ARE NOT tasked with changing the climate - they deliver electricity, natural gas, water, and sewage disposal to their customers. If you force them to use more expensive, less reliable sources of power they will do so, but pass the cost along to their customers. Worst case, they will HAVE TO shut off these utilities to their customers, as California is now doing. Period. End of story.
Except that solar cells are the cheapest source of electric power around, and wind turbines are close behind.
Hey Bozo, utilities will use ANY source of cheap power. The problem with solar cells is that they produce electricity ONLY for about 6 hours a day. Windmills don\'t turn when the WIND ISN\'T BLOWING, which is MUCH OF THE TIME.. WHAT do you do when it\'s dark (or cloudy) and the wind isn\'t blowing (for WEEKS)?
Their reliablity isn\'t ideal, but coupled with adequate grid storage they will be a perfectly adequate source of electric power when the generating companies get around to building enough of them.
Ideal??? WTF are you saying??? When you flip a switch you WANT the lights to turn on, NOT a promise that MAYBE they will SOME TIME in the future!!!!!!!
The fossil carbon extraction industry doesn\'t like this - their cash flow is going to go into terminal decline when it happens - so they spend a lot on lying propaganda aimed at gullible half-wits like Gnatguy in the hope of deferring that for a while. It\'s irresponsible idiocy, but it does make money.
The public WANTS reliable power - by WHATEVER MEANS!
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 2:28:17 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 9:08:39 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:44:19 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:24:15 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
What is in denial are the climate fanatics claim that rising CO2 levels are the driving force in climate change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum
Natural increases in CO2 level have had that effect in the past. It\'s scarcely \"fanatical\" to suggest that our contribution will have the same effect.
It is not even clear that the rise in CO2 levels is due to human activity, let alone that this is the driving force.
Not clear to Gnatguy, who is cognitively challenged.
I have ALREADY produced a scientific study that backs that statement up..
The usual climate change denial propaganda, tricked up to look like a scientific paper - Gnatguy is gullible.
Bozo has produce NOTHING in response.
Apart from the observation that is was climate change denial propaganda.
Utilities ARE NOT tasked with changing the climate - they deliver electricity, natural gas, water, and sewage disposal to their customers. If you force them to use more expensive, less reliable sources of power they will do so, but pass the cost along to their customers. Worst case, they will HAVE TO shut off these utilities to their customers, as California is now doing. Period. End of story.
Except that solar cells are the cheapest source of electric power around, and wind turbines are close behind.
Hey Bozo, utilities will use ANY source of cheap power. The problem with solar cells is that they produce electricity ONLY for about 6 hours a day.. Windmills don\'t turn when the WIND ISN\'T BLOWING, which is MUCH OF THE TIME. WHAT do you do when it\'s dark (or cloudy) and the wind isn\'t blowing (for WEEKS)?
Strange that the Australian power generating companies won\'t invest in any other kind of new generating capacity. The previous Australian administration was full of ministers who had been got at the by the coal miners, but they couldn\'t get the industry to invest in new coal-fired plants and it was remarkably reluctant to turn on the gas-fired fast start generators.
The power emergency that prompted the South Australian government to invest in Telsa\'s big battery
https://hornsdalepowerreserve.com.au/
was caused by an example of that reluctance.
This might not have been true back when Gnatguy had a working brain, but it is true now,
snipped the usual lie
Their reliablity isn\'t ideal, but coupled with adequate grid storage they will be a perfectly adequate source of electric power when the generating companies get around to building enough of them.
Ideal??? WTF are you saying??? When you flip a switch you WANT the lights to turn on, NOT a promise that MAYBE they will SOME TIME in the future!!!!!!!
That\'s what pumped storage and grid scale batteries deliver. Even fast start gas turbine generators take a few minutes to deliver power.
The fossil carbon extraction industry doesn\'t like this - their cash flow is going to go into terminal decline when it happens - so they spend a lot on lying propaganda aimed at gullible half-wits like Gnatguy in the hope of deferring that for a while. It\'s irresponsible idiocy, but it does make money.
The public WANTS reliable power - by WHATEVER MEANS!
And they don\'t care if it come from pumped storage and grid-scale batteries, recharged by windmills and solar farms.
You libtards are DICTATING to the public that they MUST settle for LESS!!!!!!
In fact Gnatguy is echoing the fossil carbon extraction industry, who lies to the public about the effectiveness of non-fossil-carbon-fueled power generation.
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:20:49 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 2:28:17 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 9:08:39 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:44:19 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:24:15 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
What is in denial are the climate fanatics claim that rising CO2 levels are the driving force in climate change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum
Natural increases in CO2 level have had that effect in the past. It\'s scarcely \"fanatical\" to suggest that our contribution will have the same effect.
It is not even clear that the rise in CO2 levels is due to human activity, let alone that this is the driving force.
Not clear to Gnatguy, who is cognitively challenged.
I have ALREADY produced a scientific study that backs that statement up.
The usual climate change denial propaganda, tricked up to look like a scientific paper - Gnatguy is gullible.
Bill responds with NOTHING! I repeat, NOTHING!!! If he had a scientific study that REFUTED the one I posted, he would POST IT, but he DOESN\'T!!!1
Bill has produce NOTHING in response.
Apart from the observation that is was climate change denial propaganda..
Again, Bill just replies with RETHORIC, not with FACTS. That is because he HAS NO FACTS!
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:24:15 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
What is in denial are the climate fanatics claim that rising CO2 levels are the driving force in climate change. It is not even clear that the rise in CO2 levels is due to human activity, let alone that this is the driving force. Utilities ARE NOT tasked with changing the climate - they deliver electricity, nat gas, water, and sewage disposal to their customers. If you force them to use more expensive, less reliable sources of power they will do so, but pass the cost along to their customers. Worst case, they will HAVE TO shut off these utilities to their customers, as California is now doing. Period. End of story.
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 3:36:56 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:20:49 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 2:28:17 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 9:08:39 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:44:19 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:24:15 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
What is in denial are the climate fanatics claim that rising CO2 levels are the driving force in climate change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum
Natural increases in CO2 level have had that effect in the past. It\'s scarcely \"fanatical\" to suggest that our contribution will have the same effect.
It is not even clear that the rise in CO2 levels is due to human activity, let alone that this is the driving force.
Not clear to Gnatguy, who is cognitively challenged.
I have ALREADY produced a scientific study that backs that statement up.
The usual climate change denial propaganda, tricked up to look like a scientific paper - Gnatguy is gullible.
Bill responds with NOTHING! I repeat, NOTHING!!! If he had a scientific study that REFUTED the one I posted, he would POST IT, but he DOESN\'T!!!1
Bill has produce NOTHING in response.
Apart from the observation that is was climate change denial propaganda.
Again, Bill just replies with RETHORIC, not with FACTS. That is because he HAS NO FACTS!
That it was climate change denial propaganda is a fact. Taking it any more seriously than that would be a waste of time. Debating such questions with Gnatguy is a waste of time - he merely ignores the arguments and reposts his fatuous delusions. That\'s repetition, not even rhetoric.
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--
Bozo Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 11:44:19 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:24:15 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
What is in denial are the climate fanatics claim that rising CO2 levels are the driving force in climate change. It is not even clear that the rise in CO2 levels is due to human activity, let alone that this is the driving force. Utilities ARE NOT tasked with changing the climate - they deliver electricity, nat gas, water, and sewage disposal to their customers. If you force them to use more expensive, less reliable sources of power they will do so, but pass the cost along to their customers. Worst case, they will HAVE TO shut off these utilities to their customers, as California is now doing. Period. End of story.
You\'re contradicting yourself but fail to realize it. Big industries in business to provide essential infrastructure and earn big profits don\'t adhere to the same principles of caution and best approximation to absolute truth the purely scientific research institutes do. They work with more practical standards of decision making such as most likely outcomes and preponderance of evidence ( more likely than not). Based on those standards and the input from the top gun scientists they did hire to study the problem, it was VERY clear to them the atmospheric CO2 levels would increase and cause global warning. They KNEW this with enough certainty to take the only action possible for them at the time, which was to stave off for as long as possible the inevitable government mandates for a radical, and very costly, reconfiguration of their industry, something we\'re seeing happening now. They accomplished this by muting the emergence of public outcry for \"government should do something about this\" which would spur the political mandates. Your statements of denial effectively undermine the best judgment of the very industry you think you\'re defending. The electric power industry in this country for the most part is pretty good and want to do the right thing. They just need to be made to move faster.
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:51:50 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 3:36:56 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 10:20:49 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 2:28:17 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 9:08:39 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:44:19 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:24:15 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
What is in denial are the climate fanatics claim that rising CO2 levels are the driving force in climate change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum
Natural increases in CO2 level have had that effect in the past.. It\'s scarcely \"fanatical\" to suggest that our contribution will have the same effect.
It is not even clear that the rise in CO2 levels is due to human activity, let alone that this is the driving force.
Not clear to Gnatguy, who is cognitively challenged.
I have ALREADY produced a scientific study that backs that statement up.
The usual climate change denial propaganda, tricked up to look like a scientific paper - Gnatguy is gullible.
Bill responds with NOTHING! I repeat, NOTHING!!! If he had a scientific study that REFUTED the one I posted, he would POST IT, but he DOESN\'T!!!1
Bill has produce NOTHING in response.
Apart from the observation that is was climate change denial propaganda.
Again, Bill just replies with RETHORIC, not with FACTS. That is because he HAS NO FACTS!
That it was climate change denial propaganda is a fact. Taking it any more seriously than that would be a waste of time. Debating such questions with Gnatguy is a waste of time - he merely ignores the arguments and reposts his fatuous delusions. That\'s repetition, not even rhetoric.
snip
Did you notice that the SNIPPERMAN SNIPPED my embarrassing comments/questions like:
OZ doesn\'t give a SHIT about \"climate change\" - they use FOSSIL FUELS because they are the CHEAPEST.
On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 7:09:47 AM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 11:44:19 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:24:15 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
People who somehow think they have the wisdom to deflate the ever more obvious predictions of the climate science are just dupes played for suckers by moneyed interests.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac8ab3
Wonder what this kind of document analysis is called? Mindnumbalytics maybe?
What is in denial are the climate fanatics claim that rising CO2 levels are the driving force in climate change. It is not even clear that the rise in CO2 levels is due to human activity, let alone that this is the driving force. Utilities ARE NOT tasked with changing the climate - they deliver electricity, nat gas, water, and sewage disposal to their customers. If you force them to use more expensive, less reliable sources of power they will do so, but pass the cost along to their customers. Worst case, they will HAVE TO shut off these utilities to their customers, as California is now doing. Period. End of story.
You\'re contradicting yourself but fail to realize it. Big industries in business to provide essential infrastructure and earn big profits don\'t adhere to the same principles of caution and best approximation to absolute truth the purely scientific research institutes do. They work with more practical standards of decision making such as most likely outcomes and preponderance of evidence ( more likely than not). Based on those standards and the input from the top gun scientists they did hire to study the problem, it was VERY clear to them the atmospheric CO2 levels would increase and cause global warning. They KNEW this with enough certainty to take the only action possible for them at the time, which was to stave off for as long as possible the inevitable government mandates for a radical, and very costly, reconfiguration of their industry, something we\'re seeing happening now. They accomplished this by muting the emergence of public outcry for \"government should do something about this\" which would spur the political mandates. Your statements of denial effectively undermine the best judgment of the very industry you think you\'re defending. The electric power industry in this country for the most part is pretty good and want to do the right thing. They just need to be made to move faster.
That is just more TIN HAT CONSPIRACY THEORY bullshit. Just to prove MY point, WHY don\'t you produce evidence of this conspiracy? Failure to do so means that you don\'t HAVE ANY!
We all know well, 26,068,792 Australia
is no future country due to very low population.
We all know well, 26,068,792 Australia
is no future country due to very low population
No future for Australia
Leave Australia ASAP