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We have a T2RC. and I\'m trying to figure out what is the lowest
temperature we can get without c02 or LNG.
So far I can get to -9C on refrigeration only. Not sure if that\'s
right, but a delta of 30C it might be.

Cheers
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 15:43:52 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

We have a T2RC. and I\'m trying to figure out what is the lowest
temperature we can get without c02 or LNG.
So far I can get to -9C on refrigeration only. Not sure if that\'s
right, but a delta of 30C it might be.

Cheers

The spec claims -68c. It\'s not stated what \"boost\" actually means.

Maybe it needs freon.

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John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 15:43:52 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:>We have a T2RC. and I\'m trying to figure out what is the lowest> temperature we can get without c02 or LNG. >So far I can get to -9C on refrigeration only. Not sure if that\'s> right, but a delta of 30C it might be.>>CheersThe spec claims -68c. It\'s not stated what \"boost\" actually means.Maybe it needs freon.-- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.Francis Bacon

I know, I think the -68 is just the chamber limit with LNG. Due
to its size.
The freon also came to mind.

Boost is the c02 or LNG

In my prior life we had c02 plates that easily went to -68. But
that\'s under a 6x6 box or a bunch of rags.

I\'ll contact Tenny.

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onsdag den 23. februar 2022 kl. 23.00.47 UTC+1 skrev Martin Rid:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> Wrote in message:r
On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 15:43:52 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid<martin...@verison.net> wrote:>We have a T2RC. and I\'m trying to figure out what is the lowest> temperature we can get without c02 or LNG. >So far I can get to -9C on refrigeration only. Not sure if that\'s> right, but a delta of 30C it might be..>>CheersThe spec claims -68c. It\'s not stated what \"boost\" actually means.Maybe it needs freon.-- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.Francis Bacon

I know, I think the -68 is just the chamber limit with LNG. Due
to its size.
The freon also came to mind.

boiling point of something like R410A is -68\'C at 0.4bar absolute so not totally impossible

is the -9\'C with nothing in chamber? i.e. with no heat added?
 
On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 14:18:59 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

onsdag den 23. februar 2022 kl. 23.00.47 UTC+1 skrev Martin Rid:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> Wrote in message:r
On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 15:43:52 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid<martin...@verison.net> wrote:>We have a . and I\'m trying to figure out what is the lowest> temperature we can get without c02 or LNG. >So far I can get to -9C on refrigeration only. Not sure if that\'s> right, but a delta of 30C it might be.>>CheersThe spec claims -68c. It\'s not stated what \"boost\" actually means.Maybe it needs freon.-- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.Francis Bacon

I know, I think the -68 is just the chamber limit with LNG. Due
to its size.
The freon also came to mind.

boiling point of something like R410A is -68\'C at 0.4bar absolute so not totally impossible

is the -9\'C with nothing in chamber? i.e. with no heat added?

-9 will barely cool beer.

A 2-stage refrig should get well below -40c.

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If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> Wrote in message:r
> onsdag den 23. februar 2022 kl. 23.00.47 UTC+1 skrev Martin Rid:> John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> Wrote in message:r > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 15:43:52 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid<martin...@verison.net> wrote:>We have a T2RC. and I\'m trying to figure out what is the lowest> temperature we can get without c02 or LNG. >So far I can get to -9C on refrigeration only. Not sure if that\'s> right, but a delta of 30C it might be.>>CheersThe spec claims -68c. It\'s not stated what \"boost\" actually means.Maybe it needs freon.-- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.Francis Bacon > > I know, I think the -68 is just the chamber limit with LNG. Due > to its size. > The freon also came to mind. boiling point of something like R410A is -68\'C at 0.4bar absolute so not totally impossibleis the -9\'C with nothing in chamber? i.e. with no heat added?

Less than a watt.


I have a request in at Tenny.
Should find out in a day or so.

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On a sunny day (Wed, 23 Feb 2022 15:53:07 -0800) it happened John Larkin
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 14:18:59 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

onsdag den 23. februar 2022 kl. 23.00.47 UTC+1 skrev Martin Rid:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> Wrote in message:r
On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 15:43:52 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid<martin...@verison.net> wrote:>We have a . and I\'m trying to figure out
what is the lowest> temperature we can get without c02 or LNG. >So far I can get to -9C on refrigeration only. Not sure if
that\'s> right, but a delta of 30C it might be.>>CheersThe spec claims -68c. It\'s not stated what \"boost\" actually means.Maybe it
needs freon.-- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he
shall end in certainties.Francis Bacon

I know, I think the -68 is just the chamber limit with LNG. Due
to its size.
The freon also came to mind.

boiling point of something like R410A is -68\'C at 0.4bar absolute so not totally impossible

is the -9\'C with nothing in chamber? i.e. with no heat added?

-9 will barely cool beer.

A 2-stage refrig should get well below -40c.

I have a Sterling cooler that cools a superconducting RF filter and
my experiments,
You can use it mo make liquid oxygen too for your missiles.
http://panteltje.com/pub/cryo/

Also have a bunch of Peltier 1 inch square elements from ebay
Could maybe put in seris (have not tried yet).
Or used for \'trickety generation (yes it works).
 

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