tango PCB display error

[pil]

When I run tango PCB on my PC the whole menu is messed up. It displayes
random characters. I am using an intel motherboard with onboard video (ati
rage pro turbo)

Anyone know how to fix this?

PS using a normal PCI card solves this but the PCI card won't run in WINXP

 

[SioL]

Tango PCB will not run in winXP. It may run, but you'll have all sorts of problems.

Make a dual-boot system, with one operating system win98 or DOS.
Than run Tango in Win98 or DOS.

SioL

"pil" <pil@webmail.co.za> wrote in message news:V9KdnfZURNUZZ8PdRVn-vg@is.co.za...

When I run tango PCB on my PC the whole menu is messed up. It displayes
random characters. I am using an intel motherboard with onboard video (ati
rage pro turbo)

Anyone know how to fix this?

PS using a normal PCI card solves this but the PCI card won't run in WINXP

 

[Charles W. Johnson Jr.]

"pil" <pil@webmail.co.za> wrote in message
news:V9KdnfZURNUZZ8PdRVn-vg@is.co.za...

When I run tango PCB on my PC the whole menu is messed up. It displayes
random characters. I am using an intel motherboard with onboard video (ati
rage pro turbo)

Anyone know how to fix this?

PS using a normal PCI card solves this but the PCI card won't run in WINXP


Right click the shortcut to Tango and select compatibility then select win98

as the target system.

Charles

 

[Glenn Gundlach]

"pil" <pil@webmail.co.za> wrote in message news:<V9KdnfZURNUZZ8PdRVn-vg@is.co.za>...

When I run tango PCB on my PC the whole menu is messed up. It displayes
random characters. I am using an intel motherboard with onboard video (ati
rage pro turbo)

Anyone know how to fix this?

PS using a normal PCI card solves this but the PCI card won't run in WINXP

To run Tango I use a dual boot scenario. MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows. I
am using a Jaton 3D force G32 (Trident Blade) graphics card in the
Athlon 1800+. The new Athlon 3200+ has an ATI Radeon 9200 which works
correctly with Tango in DOS 6.22. However, the ATI won't run 1280x1024
(1024x768 works OK) while the Trident does VGA, 800x600, 1024x768 and
1280x1024. IIRC Accel was talking about 8514 display. Many (maybe all)
ATI cards are VESA compliant (remember that?). Under DOS I just run
the VESA drivers.
GG

 

[DarkMatter]

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:38:57 +0200, "pil" <pil@webmail.co.za> Gave us:

When I run tango PCB on my PC the whole menu is messed up. It displayes
random characters. I am using an intel motherboard with onboard video (ati
rage pro turbo)

Anyone know how to fix this?

PS using a normal PCI card solves this but the PCI card won't run in WINXP

ATI SUCKS at their claim of VESA compliance! That about sums it up.

Run Ansi.sys in your config.NT AND OR run the ATI VESA driver, which
SHOULD be part of their firmware, but the retards require a driver be
loaded. Imagine that... They ALMOST fully comply. I don't know if
the dos box in XP allows a driver like that to be installed though.
You may have to boot to DOS, and run from DOS, which does work.
I hope you didn't NTFS your main drive. :]

Most *real* video cards from *real* manufacturers that have a brain
have the compliance built in in hardware. I mean jeez, there is only
ten times the code space there was when the standard was set.
Not only that, but they claim compliance! It should not require a DOS
driver to get such compliance! It also takes them forever to support
linux end users with drivers. ATI is not very customer friendly, in
my view.

Your other choices would be to use a tango display driver that WILL
work.

Try the VESA drivers (vesa1280.drv and vesa1024.drv). The best card
to use for Tango is an NVIDIA GeForce card, as it has FULL VESA MODE
COMPLIANCE and the VESA1280.drv driver. (17" monitor and higher only).
It looks sweet at that resolution, and will make PCBs for ANY need
short of dense digital designs. We do 87C51 layouts easily with it in
SMD.

Since the bastards that authored it (Tango) no longer support it, it
should be Public Domain, but it isn't. Not everyone has those
drivers. It also has problems with printers that are not from
yesteryear. Good thing that HP's newest color laser, and jet printers
still read the old print jobs beautifully.

I have similar problems with the old OrCad tools, and getting it to
even run at 800x600. Forget much else without ancient equipment..

 

[DarkMatter]

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:10:27 +0100, "SioL" <spam@spam.com> Gave us:

Tango PCB will not run in winXP.

Bullshit.

It may run, but you'll have all sorts of problems.

Bullshit. Other than video (in some cases), what "all sorts of
problems" do you refer to? Do you not know how to properly set up a
VDM?

Make a dual-boot system, with one operating system win98 or DOS.
Than run Tango in Win98 or DOS.

VMware also works... from within XP. Try again.

 

[DarkMatter]

On 22 Mar 2004 10:38:24 -0800, stratus46@yahoo.com (Glenn Gundlach)
Gave us:

"pil" <pil@webmail.co.za> wrote in message news:<V9KdnfZURNUZZ8PdRVn-vg@is.co.za>...
When I run tango PCB on my PC the whole menu is messed up. It displayes
random characters. I am using an intel motherboard with onboard video (ati
rage pro turbo)

Anyone know how to fix this?

PS using a normal PCI card solves this but the PCI card won't run in WINXP

To run Tango I use a dual boot scenario. MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows. I
am using a Jaton 3D force G32 (Trident Blade) graphics card in the
Athlon 1800+. The new Athlon 3200+ has an ATI Radeon 9200 which works
correctly with Tango in DOS 6.22. However, the ATI won't run 1280x1024
(1024x768 works OK) while the Trident does VGA, 800x600, 1024x768 and
1280x1024. IIRC Accel was talking about 8514 display. Many (maybe all)
ATI cards are VESA compliant (remember that?). Under DOS I just run
the VESA drivers.
GG

I had an ATI ULTRA 8514 vid card. Paid thru the nose for that
bastard too!