TAFE NSW 366 Electronic Technology Adv Diploma- ????

[Terry Collins]

Is this course any good?
Older guy looking to improve practical knowledge for mainly hobby design
and construction

If you've taken the course, can you pass an opinion as to whether most
of the course work can be done by yourself? Not keen on weekly trips on
multiple sydney trains to complete it. Yes, I know Open Tafe offers part
of it, but frankly the number of subjects offered is low and almost all
require physical trips.

TIA

 

[Ed -]

I would suggest that if you don't need the piece of paper then only some
of the modules will be of interest, there will be maths, more maths and
other units with interesting names which turn out to be maths again.

get a list of all the modules and post them here.

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: Is this course any good?
: Older guy looking to improve practical knowledge for mainly hobby
design
: and construction
:
: If you've taken the course, can you pass an opinion as to whether most
: of the course work can be done by yourself? Not keen on weekly trips
on
: multiple sydney trains to complete it. Yes, I know Open Tafe offers
part
: of it, but frankly the number of subjects offered is low and almost
all
: require physical trips.
:
: TIA
:

 

[Alan Rutlidge]

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I would suggest that if you don't need the piece of paper then only some
of the modules will be of interest, there will be maths, more maths and
other units with interesting names which turn out to be maths again.

get a list of all the modules and post them here.

"Terry Collins" <newsonespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
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: Is this course any good?
: Older guy looking to improve practical knowledge for mainly hobby
design
: and construction
:
: If you've taken the course, can you pass an opinion as to whether most
: of the course work can be done by yourself? Not keen on weekly trips
on
: multiple sydney trains to complete it. Yes, I know Open Tafe offers
part
: of it, but frankly the number of subjects offered is low and almost
all
: require physical trips.
:
: TIA
:

Don't tell me. They teach maths at TAFE? I'd never had guessed it.
Last part time lecturing I did at TAFE (Electronics), the average idiot
student couldn't work out anything without a calculator. Even then they
seem to get it wrong.

It would appear that even approximating the answer (as so to gauge what to
expect the calculator to work it out to be) is beyond most school leavers.
:-(

Sad really. Especially when you have something simple like a circuit with
two series resistors. One is 100 ohms, the other 220 ohms. The applied
voltage (end to end) across the network is 10 volts. Calculate the expected
voltage drop across the 100 ohm resistor. You get answers like 5 volts.

So what sort of maths do they teach at TAFE these days. Fibbonachi
(Fibonacci) sequences?

Cheers,
Alan

 

[Terry Collins]

Alan Rutlidge wrote:

Don't tell me. They teach maths at TAFE? I'd never had guessed it.
Last part time lecturing I did at TAFE (Electronics), the average idiot
student couldn't work out anything without a calculator. Even then they
seem to get it wrong.

Late 90's and I did some surveying subjects as part of an Ass Dip Civil
Engineering and the course should have been called "Something" with
Casio Calculators. They basically taught the students how to do the
calculations with a Casio calculators. It was even examinable.

Rather funny for me because I'm too used to HP calcs and RPN {, so I
just had to convert everything.

It would appear that even approximating the answer (as so to gauge what to
expect the calculator to work it out to be) is beyond most school leavers.

My wife occassionally helps the neighbourhood kids (primary & high
school) with their maths. I just have to leave before I say anything.
Wild, erratic guesses all the time.

Basically, most of these kids do not know their times table, and they
are continually hung up on that. So when something else is taught, they
are screwing around wasting all their efforts around trying to do a
simple calculations and not learning the other stuff.

 

[The Real Andy]

On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 09:24:16 +1100, Terry Collins
<newsonespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote:

Alan Rutlidge wrote:
snip
Rather funny for me because I'm too used to HP calcs and RPN {, so I
just had to convert everything.

Geez Terry, Your showing your age saying things like RPN. I remember
the old HP calulator with the red LED (IIRC) displays. They may well
have been VFD, my memory is bad.

These days i am not sure if i could use a clculator. Win calc maybe,
but Excel and mathcad and c take all the fun out of it.

 

[Ed -]

go in and ask about which modules they offer as flexable learning

for example: 6032B Industrial computer systems
1 or 2 classes in each of:

ms word
ms access
ms excel
ms powerpoint
ms frontpage

not very indepth in the short time allowed but easy to do at home

 

[James]

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Ed - wrote:
I would suggest that if you don't need the piece of paper then only some
of the modules will be of interest, there will be maths, more maths and
other units with interesting names which turn out to be maths again.

err, I was actually interested in doing some of the maths (again) to
gently get the brain working. It has been about 15 years since I last
did any serious study. The problem is going to be "wait a minute, you
have a maths exemption from previous study" {

SNIP!
e.g.

6032G Control programming style
6032B Industrial computer systems
7761AU Communication fundamentals (english or data)
7761R Data communications
8271S Microprocessor fundamentals
7763K Electronic software tools.

They are the Group 1 Core Modules that Oten does not offer.


On the other hand, there are 22 technician level subjects you can do
that include TV (10 subjects), VCR (5 subjects), computer monitors,
camcorders and PCB (2 subjects; design & fab) which could be practical
and worth attending.

Hello Terry,

OK. Some of the subject names and numbers are familiar

6032G - Control Programming Style. This was a basic introduction to
programming a PC in DOS using the programming language 'C'. C++ was offered
as an advanced course!

6032B - Industrial Computer Systems. This is a introduction to Microsoft
Word and Microsoft Excel for engineering students. There was also a bit DOS
and some shell programming.

7761AU - Communication Fundamentals. This was a basic communications course.
It brushed on AM and FM communication, antenna's, spectrum and others... Not
very in depth.

8271S - Microprocessor Fundamentals. This started out as an introduction to
digital (Gates and stuff) but very quickly moved to a specific microprocess
and examined its architecture and instruction set. Not bad.

7763K - Electronic Software Tools. Have a feeling this is Mathematica. I
know that I did the course but I don't have any notes on my PC. This gives
me the feeling that this is that subject. I simply could not justify buying
the software package for home use just to get through the subject, hence no
notes.

Hope this helps!
James

 

[eeviil inc.]

Late 90's and I did some surveying subjects as part of an Ass Dip Civil
Engineering and the course should have been called "Something" with
Casio Calculators. They basically taught the students how to do the
calculations with a Casio calculators. It was even examinable.

Rather funny for me because I'm too used to HP calcs and RPN {, so I
just had to convert everything.


All thats taught in the Surveying subjects at tafe these days is RPN

with the HPs these days.

Adam