Suonds like a hardware problem?

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I have a working XP 1.4 gig computer which I was using with a SuperMatch
monitor.

I changed the monitor over to a Dell UltraScan VC8N which I know to work in
other (non-Dell) systems. The Dell monitor uses the same curious 13W3 (to
SVGA) connector as the SuperMatch monitor on which I have checked all the
pins and they are all OK: I didn't change the monitor, I just unplugged the
plug and plugged it into the Dell when I changed over and don't believe this
can be a driver problem as it would at least be working in VGA (or at the
BIOS stage) if it was?

Suddenly the monitor doesn't work at all. The green light on the monitor
flashes as if there is no computer connected to the monitor.

Occasionally with a bit of playing around during the boot process (there is
one of those reset buttons which works a bit like a control-alt-delete
button on the front of the computer) I can get the Monitor to display the
Windows XP introduction window for a few seconds with a horizontal band of
interference and all colours looking wrong in a smallish portion in the
middle of the screen

Then when my (known) background is supposed to appear, I can see the clouds
and sky appear for about a half of a second (full screen, all colours
looking correct), then the screen goes dead and the green 'unconnected'
light on the monitor panel starts flashing again.

Anyone got any idea what might be wrong, given that I am not exaggerating on
this one: on boot-up, not even a BIOS or memory message appears (but I can
hear from the interior of the computer itself that the hard drive IS going
through all the boot processes: They just aren't appearing on the screen
which stays dead as a doornail with that green light flashing.

I am cross- positing and posting to sci.electronics.repair because when I
was changing over monitors the Dell DID endure a very slight drop of a few
inches and I am wondering if something might have come loose in that drop,
although the brief appearance of the XP welcome screen would tend to suggest
that this shouldn't be the case?

Licensed to Quill
 
Check that the refresh rate is set to optimum. This will let the card auto
adjust the refresh rate for your monitor. Your rate may be set too high for
the monitor type. Also make sure that the resolution is not set too high as
well.

You can find these settings in the set-up of the screen properties.

--

Greetings,

Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG
=========================================
WebPage http://www.zoom-one.com
Electronics http://www.zoom-one.com/electron.htm
=========================================


"Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
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I have a working XP 1.4 gig computer which I was using with a SuperMatch
monitor.

I changed the monitor over to a Dell UltraScan VC8N which I know to work in
other (non-Dell) systems. The Dell monitor uses the same curious 13W3 (to
SVGA) connector as the SuperMatch monitor on which I have checked all the
pins and they are all OK: I didn't change the monitor, I just unplugged the
plug and plugged it into the Dell when I changed over and don't believe this
can be a driver problem as it would at least be working in VGA (or at the
BIOS stage) if it was?

Suddenly the monitor doesn't work at all. The green light on the monitor
flashes as if there is no computer connected to the monitor.

Occasionally with a bit of playing around during the boot process (there is
one of those reset buttons which works a bit like a control-alt-delete
button on the front of the computer) I can get the Monitor to display the
Windows XP introduction window for a few seconds with a horizontal band of
interference and all colours looking wrong in a smallish portion in the
middle of the screen

Then when my (known) background is supposed to appear, I can see the clouds
and sky appear for about a half of a second (full screen, all colours
looking correct), then the screen goes dead and the green 'unconnected'
light on the monitor panel starts flashing again.

Anyone got any idea what might be wrong, given that I am not exaggerating on
this one: on boot-up, not even a BIOS or memory message appears (but I can
hear from the interior of the computer itself that the hard drive IS going
through all the boot processes: They just aren't appearing on the screen
which stays dead as a doornail with that green light flashing.

I am cross- positing and posting to sci.electronics.repair because when I
was changing over monitors the Dell DID endure a very slight drop of a few
inches and I am wondering if something might have come loose in that drop,
although the brief appearance of the XP welcome screen would tend to suggest
that this shouldn't be the case?

Licensed to Quill
 
"Jerry G." <jerryg50@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Check that the refresh rate is set to optimum. This will let the card
auto
adjust the refresh rate for your monitor.
BWAHAHAHAH!!! You top-posting fuckwit.

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Trouble is, I can't even access that screen. Would the setting of the
refresh rate have any effect on whether anything appeared in the initial
BIOS description screen?


"Jerry G." <jerryg50@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmd30l$jom$1@news.eusc.inter.net...
Check that the refresh rate is set to optimum. This will let the card
auto
adjust the refresh rate for your monitor. Your rate may be set too high
for
the monitor type. Also make sure that the resolution is not set too high
as
well.

You can find these settings in the set-up of the screen properties.

--

Greetings,

Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG
=========================================
WebPage http://www.zoom-one.com
Electronics http://www.zoom-one.com/electron.htm
=========================================


"Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bmd2nt$iqb$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
I have a working XP 1.4 gig computer which I was using with a SuperMatch
monitor.

I changed the monitor over to a Dell UltraScan VC8N which I know to work
in
other (non-Dell) systems. The Dell monitor uses the same curious 13W3 (to
SVGA) connector as the SuperMatch monitor on which I have checked all the
pins and they are all OK: I didn't change the monitor, I just unplugged
the
plug and plugged it into the Dell when I changed over and don't believe
this
can be a driver problem as it would at least be working in VGA (or at the
BIOS stage) if it was?

Suddenly the monitor doesn't work at all. The green light on the monitor
flashes as if there is no computer connected to the monitor.

Occasionally with a bit of playing around during the boot process (there
is
one of those reset buttons which works a bit like a control-alt-delete
button on the front of the computer) I can get the Monitor to display the
Windows XP introduction window for a few seconds with a horizontal band of
interference and all colours looking wrong in a smallish portion in the
middle of the screen

Then when my (known) background is supposed to appear, I can see the
clouds
and sky appear for about a half of a second (full screen, all colours
looking correct), then the screen goes dead and the green 'unconnected'
light on the monitor panel starts flashing again.

Anyone got any idea what might be wrong, given that I am not exaggerating
on
this one: on boot-up, not even a BIOS or memory message appears (but I
can
hear from the interior of the computer itself that the hard drive IS going
through all the boot processes: They just aren't appearing on the screen
which stays dead as a doornail with that green light flashing.

I am cross- positing and posting to sci.electronics.repair because when I
was changing over monitors the Dell DID endure a very slight drop of a few
inches and I am wondering if something might have come loose in that drop,
although the brief appearance of the XP welcome screen would tend to
suggest
that this shouldn't be the case?

Licensed to Quill
 
Licensed to Quill engraved with a +2 athame:
Trouble is, I can't even access that screen. Would the setting of the
refresh rate have any effect on whether anything appeared in the initial
BIOS description screen?
Does the monitor work in another PC? Is the power connection and/or cable OK?


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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:29:24 -0400, "Licensed to Quill"
<vintagepen@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote/replied to:

Anyone got any idea what might be wrong, given that I am not exaggerating on
this one: on boot-up, not even a BIOS or memory message appears (but I can
hear from the interior of the computer itself that the hard drive IS going
through all the boot processes: They just aren't appearing on the screen
which stays dead as a doornail with that green light flashing.
This really sounds like the video card is fried.

So you could either try another video card, or another monitor. I had
a card that died this way one day.


Jim Davis
Nature Photography
http://www.kjsl.com/~jbdavis/
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:57:26 -0400, "Licensed to Quill"
<vintagepen@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote/replied to:

Trouble is, I can't even access that screen. Would the setting of the
refresh rate have any effect on whether anything appeared in the initial
BIOS description screen?
No, it wouldn't. It might not show the windows screen right, but up to
that point the monitor should be running fine.

I think the video card output should be checked.


Jim Davis
Nature Photography
http://www.kjsl.com/~jbdavis/
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Reconnect the SuperMatch monitor or boot in safe mode.
Lower your refresh rate.

"Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bmd4ce$k3s$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
Trouble is, I can't even access that screen. Would the setting of the
refresh rate have any effect on whether anything appeared in the initial
BIOS description screen?


"Jerry G." <jerryg50@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmd30l$jom$1@news.eusc.inter.net...
Check that the refresh rate is set to optimum. This will let the card
auto
adjust the refresh rate for your monitor. Your rate may be set too high
for
the monitor type. Also make sure that the resolution is not set too
high
as
well.

You can find these settings in the set-up of the screen properties.

--

Greetings,

Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG
=========================================
WebPage http://www.zoom-one.com
Electronics http://www.zoom-one.com/electron.htm
=========================================


"Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bmd2nt$iqb$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
I have a working XP 1.4 gig computer which I was using with a SuperMatch
monitor.

I changed the monitor over to a Dell UltraScan VC8N which I know to
work
in
other (non-Dell) systems. The Dell monitor uses the same curious 13W3
(to
SVGA) connector as the SuperMatch monitor on which I have checked all
the
pins and they are all OK: I didn't change the monitor, I just unplugged
the
plug and plugged it into the Dell when I changed over and don't believe
this
can be a driver problem as it would at least be working in VGA (or at
the
BIOS stage) if it was?

Suddenly the monitor doesn't work at all. The green light on the
monitor
flashes as if there is no computer connected to the monitor.

Occasionally with a bit of playing around during the boot process (there
is
one of those reset buttons which works a bit like a control-alt-delete
button on the front of the computer) I can get the Monitor to display
the
Windows XP introduction window for a few seconds with a horizontal band
of
interference and all colours looking wrong in a smallish portion in the
middle of the screen

Then when my (known) background is supposed to appear, I can see the
clouds
and sky appear for about a half of a second (full screen, all colours
looking correct), then the screen goes dead and the green 'unconnected'
light on the monitor panel starts flashing again.

Anyone got any idea what might be wrong, given that I am not
exaggerating
on
this one: on boot-up, not even a BIOS or memory message appears (but I
can
hear from the interior of the computer itself that the hard drive IS
going
through all the boot processes: They just aren't appearing on the screen
which stays dead as a doornail with that green light flashing.

I am cross- positing and posting to sci.electronics.repair because when
I
was changing over monitors the Dell DID endure a very slight drop of a
few
inches and I am wondering if something might have come loose in that
drop,
although the brief appearance of the XP welcome screen would tend to
suggest
that this shouldn't be the case?

Licensed to Quill
 
Refresh rate is to high or resolution is to high. Boot in SAFE MODE and
select the lowest possible setting, reboot , then go change your
refresh/resolution to whatever it works for you
HTH

--

Splitskull

"Jerry G." <jerryg50@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmd30l$jom$1@news.eusc.inter.net...
Check that the refresh rate is set to optimum. This will let the card
auto
adjust the refresh rate for your monitor. Your rate may be set too high
for
the monitor type. Also make sure that the resolution is not set too high
as
well.

You can find these settings in the set-up of the screen properties.

--

Greetings,

Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG
=========================================
WebPage http://www.zoom-one.com
Electronics http://www.zoom-one.com/electron.htm
=========================================


"Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bmd2nt$iqb$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
I have a working XP 1.4 gig computer which I was using with a SuperMatch
monitor.

I changed the monitor over to a Dell UltraScan VC8N which I know to work
in
other (non-Dell) systems. The Dell monitor uses the same curious 13W3 (to
SVGA) connector as the SuperMatch monitor on which I have checked all the
pins and they are all OK: I didn't change the monitor, I just unplugged
the
plug and plugged it into the Dell when I changed over and don't believe
this
can be a driver problem as it would at least be working in VGA (or at the
BIOS stage) if it was?

Suddenly the monitor doesn't work at all. The green light on the monitor
flashes as if there is no computer connected to the monitor.

Occasionally with a bit of playing around during the boot process (there
is
one of those reset buttons which works a bit like a control-alt-delete
button on the front of the computer) I can get the Monitor to display the
Windows XP introduction window for a few seconds with a horizontal band of
interference and all colours looking wrong in a smallish portion in the
middle of the screen

Then when my (known) background is supposed to appear, I can see the
clouds
and sky appear for about a half of a second (full screen, all colours
looking correct), then the screen goes dead and the green 'unconnected'
light on the monitor panel starts flashing again.

Anyone got any idea what might be wrong, given that I am not exaggerating
on
this one: on boot-up, not even a BIOS or memory message appears (but I
can
hear from the interior of the computer itself that the hard drive IS going
through all the boot processes: They just aren't appearing on the screen
which stays dead as a doornail with that green light flashing.

I am cross- positing and posting to sci.electronics.repair because when I
was changing over monitors the Dell DID endure a very slight drop of a few
inches and I am wondering if something might have come loose in that drop,
although the brief appearance of the XP welcome screen would tend to
suggest
that this shouldn't be the case?

Licensed to Quill
 
Thanks a lot everyone who took the trouble to answer this message but
apparently the point was that that infernal 13W3 connector has no 'correct'
pin configuration and you have to get the proper cable in order to get it to
work.

Now that I come to think of it, there WAS a problem in deciding which cable
to buy originally as there were differences between ones which looked
exactly the same but which were designed for Windows 2000 or for (e.g.) a
Sun Workstation

(I was advised to and connected the cable which came with the Dell and it
started working properly)

Licensed to Quill


"Splitskull" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:6rzib.91698$PD3.4870541@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
Refresh rate is to high or resolution is to high. Boot in SAFE MODE and
select the lowest possible setting, reboot , then go change your
refresh/resolution to whatever it works for you
HTH

--

Splitskull

"Jerry G." <jerryg50@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmd30l$jom$1@news.eusc.inter.net...
Check that the refresh rate is set to optimum. This will let the card
auto
adjust the refresh rate for your monitor. Your rate may be set too high
for
the monitor type. Also make sure that the resolution is not set too
high
as
well.

You can find these settings in the set-up of the screen properties.

--

Greetings,

Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG
=========================================
WebPage http://www.zoom-one.com
Electronics http://www.zoom-one.com/electron.htm
=========================================


"Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bmd2nt$iqb$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
I have a working XP 1.4 gig computer which I was using with a SuperMatch
monitor.

I changed the monitor over to a Dell UltraScan VC8N which I know to
work
in
other (non-Dell) systems. The Dell monitor uses the same curious 13W3
(to
SVGA) connector as the SuperMatch monitor on which I have checked all
the
pins and they are all OK: I didn't change the monitor, I just unplugged
the
plug and plugged it into the Dell when I changed over and don't believe
this
can be a driver problem as it would at least be working in VGA (or at
the
BIOS stage) if it was?

Suddenly the monitor doesn't work at all. The green light on the
monitor
flashes as if there is no computer connected to the monitor.

Occasionally with a bit of playing around during the boot process (there
is
one of those reset buttons which works a bit like a control-alt-delete
button on the front of the computer) I can get the Monitor to display
the
Windows XP introduction window for a few seconds with a horizontal band
of
interference and all colours looking wrong in a smallish portion in the
middle of the screen

Then when my (known) background is supposed to appear, I can see the
clouds
and sky appear for about a half of a second (full screen, all colours
looking correct), then the screen goes dead and the green 'unconnected'
light on the monitor panel starts flashing again.

Anyone got any idea what might be wrong, given that I am not
exaggerating
on
this one: on boot-up, not even a BIOS or memory message appears (but I
can
hear from the interior of the computer itself that the hard drive IS
going
through all the boot processes: They just aren't appearing on the screen
which stays dead as a doornail with that green light flashing.

I am cross- positing and posting to sci.electronics.repair because when
I
was changing over monitors the Dell DID endure a very slight drop of a
few
inches and I am wondering if something might have come loose in that
drop,
although the brief appearance of the XP welcome screen would tend to
suggest
that this shouldn't be the case?

Licensed to Quill
 
Jim Davis Nature Photography <YDavis@hkg.odn.ne.jp> wrote in message news:<r4kkovcdav7cvkdpv7skeobnk9v2f1ko6f@nwall.odn.ne.jp>...
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:29:24 -0400, "Licensed to Quill"
vintagepen@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote/replied to:

Anyone got any idea what might be wrong, given that I am not exaggerating on
this one: on boot-up, not even a BIOS or memory message appears (but I can
hear from the interior of the computer itself that the hard drive IS going
through all the boot processes: They just aren't appearing on the screen
which stays dead as a doornail with that green light flashing.

This really sounds like the video card is fried.

So you could either try another video card, or another monitor. I had
a card that died this way one day.
I had a defective $1 monitor blow up a $40 video card !!!! Beat that!

(The monitor had a fault in its line output stage that put high
voltage on the VGA lead)

-A

Jim Davis
Nature Photography
http://www.kjsl.com/~jbdavis/
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