Such thing as a momentary relay?

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nefarious

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.... or a circuit to accomplish the same thing.

Situation: Switching on 110VAC, need to turn on a 5VDC source for NO MORE
than 1 sec about 50ms after the AC power is flowing.

Any inexpensive solutions?

Thanks,
-nef
 
Put the relay in series with a capacitor and resistor, driven through
a diode? Also a small cap across the relay to give 50mS?

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 04:35:04 GMT, nefarious
<sfdkjshfskjhflkhj@erkjdfkjhlkhsdkfjhsfj.com> wrote:

... or a circuit to accomplish the same thing.

Situation: Switching on 110VAC, need to turn on a 5VDC source for NO MORE
than 1 sec about 50ms after the AC power is flowing.

Any inexpensive solutions?

Thanks,
-nef
 
Stepan Novotill <snovotill@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:e9idlv4cd9bgq70gmhekhu7vh3nd0un2ef@4ax.com:

Put the relay in series with a capacitor and resistor, driven through
a diode? Also a small cap across the relay to give 50mS?
Forgive my lack of knowledge.. I know what each of the components functions
are, but sizing etc I'll be lost on. Any chance of an ASCII schematic? ;-)

Thanks!
-nef
 
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 23:48:13 GMT, nefarious
<sfdkjshfskjhflkhj@erkjdfkjhlkhsdkfjhsfj.com> wrote:

Stepan Novotill <snovotill@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:e9idlv4cd9bgq70gmhekhu7vh3nd0un2ef@4ax.com:

Put the relay in series with a capacitor and resistor, driven through
a diode? Also a small cap across the relay to give 50mS?

Forgive my lack of knowledge.. I know what each of the components functions
are, but sizing etc I'll be lost on. Any chance of an ASCII schematic? ;-)

Thanks!
-nef
I don't mean to be harsh, but if you are not able to put that together
then you should not. It could be very dangerous for you. We are
talking about lethal DC voltages from half-wave rectified AC.
Why not start with some safer projects using batteries.
Please accept my apologies.
 
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 05:31:12 GMT, Stepan Novotill
<snovotill@hotmail.com> wrote:


I don't mean to be harsh, but if you are not able to put that together
then you should not. It could be very dangerous for you. We are
talking about lethal DC voltages from half-wave rectified AC.
Why not start with some safer projects using batteries.
Please accept my apologies.
OK, here is the ASCII schematic, but only to look at:

Line--R-+-Cbig-+-|>|---+---||||||---+---Line
| | | |
+-100K-+ +---Csmall_--+

Note: relay may close again upon power-off

It is a crappy circuit but may be good enough.
The cap and resistor values depend on your relay.
I'd use a 5 watt resistor for R and a photoflash cap for Cbig
Relay is 220VAC or 120VAC.

The diode is 1n4007. The circuit needs time to bleed off capacitor
charges between invocations.

MUCH safer to do this in low voltage DC. DC is easier to design but
much more complicated circuit.
 
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 05:48:43 GMT, Stepan Novotill
<snovotill@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 05:31:12 GMT, Stepan Novotill
snovotill@hotmail.com> wrote:


I don't mean to be harsh, but if you are not able to put that together
then you should not. It could be very dangerous for you. We are
talking about lethal DC voltages from half-wave rectified AC.
Why not start with some safer projects using batteries.
Please accept my apologies.

OK, here is the ASCII schematic, but only to look at:

Line--R-+-Cbig-+-|>|---+---||||||---+---Line
| | | |
+-100K-+ +---Csmall_--+

Note: relay may close again upon power-off

It is a crappy circuit but may be good enough.
The cap and resistor values depend on your relay.
I'd use a 5 watt resistor for R and a photoflash cap for Cbig
Relay is 220VAC or 120VAC.

The diode is 1n4007. The circuit needs time to bleed off capacitor
charges between invocations.

MUCH safer to do this in low voltage DC. DC is easier to design but
much more complicated circuit.
No, it won't close again at power-off.What am i thinking?
 
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 05:49:59 GMT, Stepan Novotill
<snovotill@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 05:48:43 GMT, Stepan Novotill
snovotill@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 05:31:12 GMT, Stepan Novotill
snovotill@hotmail.com> wrote:


I don't mean to be harsh, but if you are not able to put that together
then you should not. It could be very dangerous for you. We are
talking about lethal DC voltages from half-wave rectified AC.
Why not start with some safer projects using batteries.
Please accept my apologies.

OK, here is the ASCII schematic, but only to look at:

Line--R-+-Cbig-+-|>|---+---||||||---+---Line
| | | |
+-100K-+ +---Csmall_--+

Note: relay may close again upon power-off

It is a crappy circuit but may be good enough.
The cap and resistor values depend on your relay.
I'd use a 5 watt resistor for R and a photoflash cap for Cbig
Relay is 220VAC or 120VAC.

The diode is 1n4007. The circuit needs time to bleed off capacitor
charges between invocations.

MUCH safer to do this in low voltage DC. DC is easier to design but
much more complicated circuit.

No, it won't close again at power-off.What am i thinking?
Oh yes, and the caps may EXPLODE if you put them in backwards.
 
Stepan Novotill <snovotill@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:5na5mv8bs5rtai7045rsdu2vidtip3nd5r@4ax.com:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 23:48:13 GMT, nefarious
sfdkjshfskjhflkhj@erkjdfkjhlkhsdkfjhsfj.com> wrote:

I don't mean to be harsh, but if you are not able to put that together
then you should not. It could be very dangerous for you. We are
talking about lethal DC voltages from half-wave rectified AC.
Why not start with some safer projects using batteries.
Please accept my apologies.
No need to apologize, but I think putting in three phase circuits and
discharging CRTs is more dangerous than anything we're talking about here
... and I do those things all the time ;-)

-nef

ps... thanks for the circuit diagram
 

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