STD_LOGIC_VECTOR vs. UNSIGNED vs. SIGNED

[Jeremy Pyle]

Ok, got a question about the three types: STD_LOGIC_VECTOR, UNSIGNED and
SIGNED. The difference between UNSIGNED and SIGNED is pretty
obvious......SIGNED will always give a result in 2's compliment where
UNSIGNED will never give a result in 2's compliment. What about
STD_LOGIC_VECTOR, do I have to worry if I pass in something like this:

process
variable i : integer range 0 to 511 := 511;
variable j : STD_LOGIC_VECTOR(8 downto 0);
begin
j := CONV_STD_LOGIC_VECTOR(i, 9);

will this produce the vector as expected of 111111111 or will it sometimes
produce a 2's compliment vector? Can I get unexpected results doing
something like this?

Thanks,

Jeremy

 

[Egbert Molenkamp]

You can find more on this subject in the FAQ
http://www.vhdl.org/vi/comp.lang.vhdl/FAQ1.html#4.11

You are very clear in your question, indeed SIGNED and UNSIGNED
are pretty obvious. But the interpretation of STD_LOGIC_VECTOR?
It depends if you are synopsys' package STD_LOGIC_UNSIGNED it will
have an unsigned interpretation, and with synopsys' package
STD_LOGIC_SIGNED it will be signed.

Egbert Molenkamp

"Jeremy Pyle" <jeremyp@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:xSMKa.34025$kQ5.22847@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

Ok, got a question about the three types: STD_LOGIC_VECTOR, UNSIGNED and
SIGNED. The difference between UNSIGNED and SIGNED is pretty
obvious......SIGNED will always give a result in 2's compliment where
UNSIGNED will never give a result in 2's compliment. What about
STD_LOGIC_VECTOR, do I have to worry if I pass in something like this:

process
variable i : integer range 0 to 511 := 511;
variable j : STD_LOGIC_VECTOR(8 downto 0);
begin
j := CONV_STD_LOGIC_VECTOR(i, 9);

will this produce the vector as expected of 111111111 or will it sometimes
produce a 2's compliment vector? Can I get unexpected results doing
something like this?

Thanks,

Jeremy

 

[Niv]

You should really be using the IEEE numeric.std package now & not the
synopsys signed & unsigned ones. It does become clear after a while,
promise.

Niv.

"Egbert Molenkamp" <molenkam_remove_spam@cs.utwente.nl> wrote in message
news:bdgsb0$rm6$1@ares.cs.utwente.nl...

You can find more on this subject in the FAQ
http://www.vhdl.org/vi/comp.lang.vhdl/FAQ1.html#4.11

You are very clear in your question, indeed SIGNED and UNSIGNED
are pretty obvious. But the interpretation of STD_LOGIC_VECTOR?
It depends if you are synopsys' package STD_LOGIC_UNSIGNED it will
have an unsigned interpretation, and with synopsys' package
STD_LOGIC_SIGNED it will be signed.

Egbert Molenkamp

"Jeremy Pyle" <jeremyp@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:xSMKa.34025$kQ5.22847@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
Ok, got a question about the three types: STD_LOGIC_VECTOR, UNSIGNED and
SIGNED. The difference between UNSIGNED and SIGNED is pretty
obvious......SIGNED will always give a result in 2's compliment where
UNSIGNED will never give a result in 2's compliment. What about
STD_LOGIC_VECTOR, do I have to worry if I pass in something like this:

process
variable i : integer range 0 to 511 := 511;
variable j : STD_LOGIC_VECTOR(8 downto 0);
begin
j := CONV_STD_LOGIC_VECTOR(i, 9);

will this produce the vector as expected of 111111111 or will it
sometimes
produce a 2's compliment vector? Can I get unexpected results doing
something like this?

Thanks,

Jeremy

 

[Mike Treseler]

Jeremy Pyle wrote:

will this produce the vector as expected of 111111111 or will it sometimes
produce a 2's compliment vector? Can I get unexpected results doing
something like this?

Here's an example using numeric_std.

-- Mike Treseler

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library ieee;
use ieee.std_logic_1164.all;
use ieee.numeric_std.all;
entity qual is
end qual;

architecture sim of qual is
begin
what : process is
constant a : signed := "111"; -- -1
constant b : unsigned := "111"; -- 7
constant c : string := "111"; -- "111"
constant d : std_logic_vector := "111";

begin
report "a = " & integer'image( to_integer(a));
report "a > 2 is " & boolean'image( a>2 );
report "b = " & integer'image( to_integer(b));
report "b > 2 is " & boolean'image( b>2 );
report "c = """ &c & """ ";
report "c > ""2"" is " & boolean'image( c>"2" );
report "c > ""1"" is " & boolean'image( c>"1" );
report "d = ""111"" ";
report "d > ""010"" is " & boolean'image( d>"001");
wait;
end process what;
end sim;

--VSIM 4> vsim -c qual; run

--# Loading work.qual(sim)
--# ** Note: a = -1
--# ** Note: a > 2 is false
--# ** Note: b = 7
--# ** Note: b > 2 is true
--# ** Note: c = "111"
--# ** Note: c > "2" is false
--# ** Note: c > "1" is true
--# ** Note: d = "111"
--# ** Note: d > "010" is true