\"Stand up\" USB C...

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Don Y

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I\'m looking for a USB C (male) connector that can mount
\"standing up\", normal to the PCB -- and have a total height
effectively the same as the insertion length of a normal
connector. SMT or thru-hole.
 
On 2023-01-21, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
I\'m looking for a USB C (male) connector that can mount
\"standing up\", normal to the PCB -- and have a total height
effectively the same as the insertion length of a normal
connector. SMT or thru-hole.

\"male\" so you want what the USB spec calls a receptacle?

--
Jasen.
pǝsɹǝʌǝɹ sʇɥƃᴉɹ ll∀
 
On 1/21/2023 8:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2023-01-21, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
I\'m looking for a USB C (male) connector that can mount
\"standing up\", normal to the PCB -- and have a total height
effectively the same as the insertion length of a normal
connector. SMT or thru-hole.

\"male\" so you want what the USB spec calls a receptacle?

No. The mate to this:
<https://www.digikey.com/-/media/Images/Product%20Highlights/C/CUI%20Devices/Power%20Only%20USB%20Type-C%20Receptacle/USB-200.jpg?la=en&ts=3f245263-2db6-4e7d-8b11-d939ee4b7bc3>
I.e., cut the end off your (typical) cable and mount THAT to a PCB.
 
On 1/21/2023 1:23 PM, Don Y wrote:
I\'m looking for a USB C (male) connector that can mount
\"standing up\", normal to the PCB -- and have a total height
effectively the same as the insertion length of a normal
connector.  SMT or thru-hole.

Problem solved! :>
 
On 2023-01-22, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/21/2023 8:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2023-01-21, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
I\'m looking for a USB C (male) connector that can mount
\"standing up\", normal to the PCB -- and have a total height
effectively the same as the insertion length of a normal
connector. SMT or thru-hole.

\"male\" so you want what the USB spec calls a receptacle?

No. The mate to this:
https://www.digikey.com/-/media/Images/Product%20Highlights/C/CUI%20Devices/Power%20Only%20USB%20Type-C%20Receptacle/USB-200.jpg?la=en&ts=3f245263-2db6-4e7d-8b11-d939ee4b7bc3
I.e., cut the end off your (typical) cable and mount THAT to a PCB.

so https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/gct/USB4151-GF-C/12139043
or https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/jae-electronics/DX07VN24WA2C1568/9695489

Are they too tall?

--
Jasen.
pǝsɹǝʌǝɹ sʇɥƃᴉɹ ll∀
 
On 1/21/2023 10:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2023-01-22, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/21/2023 8:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2023-01-21, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
I\'m looking for a USB C (male) connector that can mount
\"standing up\", normal to the PCB -- and have a total height
effectively the same as the insertion length of a normal
connector. SMT or thru-hole.

\"male\" so you want what the USB spec calls a receptacle?

No. The mate to this:
https://www.digikey.com/-/media/Images/Product%20Highlights/C/CUI%20Devices/Power%20Only%20USB%20Type-C%20Receptacle/USB-200.jpg?la=en&ts=3f245263-2db6-4e7d-8b11-d939ee4b7bc3
I.e., cut the end off your (typical) cable and mount THAT to a PCB.

so https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/gct/USB4151-GF-C/12139043
or https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/jae-electronics/DX07VN24WA2C1568/9695489

Are they too tall?

Yeah, I think so. ISTM that you only need about ~6mm penetration into the
mating connector so anything beyond that is just \"bragging rights\" :>
 
søndag den 22. januar 2023 kl. 07.59.32 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 1/21/2023 10:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2023-01-22, Don Y <blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/21/2023 8:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2023-01-21, Don Y <blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:
I\'m looking for a USB C (male) connector that can mount
\"standing up\", normal to the PCB -- and have a total height
effectively the same as the insertion length of a normal
connector. SMT or thru-hole.

\"male\" so you want what the USB spec calls a receptacle?

No. The mate to this:
https://www.digikey.com/-/media/Images/Product%20Highlights/C/CUI%20Devices/Power%20Only%20USB%20Type-C%20Receptacle/USB-200.jpg?la=en&ts=3f245263-2db6-4e7d-8b11-d939ee4b7bc3
I.e., cut the end off your (typical) cable and mount THAT to a PCB.

so https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/gct/USB4151-GF-C/12139043
or https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/jae-electronics/DX07VN24WA2C1568/9695489

Are they too tall?
Yeah, I think so. ISTM that you only need about ~6mm penetration into the
mating connector so anything beyond that is just \"bragging rights\" :

a regular usb-c cable has ~7mm and those pcb mount ones will in most cases
have to go through a hole in an enclosure, so the ~10mm makes sense
 
On 1/22/2023 5:34 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
søndag den 22. januar 2023 kl. 07.59.32 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 1/21/2023 10:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2023-01-22, Don Y <blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/21/2023 8:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2023-01-21, Don Y <blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:
I\'m looking for a USB C (male) connector that can mount
\"standing up\", normal to the PCB -- and have a total height
effectively the same as the insertion length of a normal
connector. SMT or thru-hole.

\"male\" so you want what the USB spec calls a receptacle?

No. The mate to this:
https://www.digikey.com/-/media/Images/Product%20Highlights/C/CUI%20Devices/Power%20Only%20USB%20Type-C%20Receptacle/USB-200.jpg?la=en&ts=3f245263-2db6-4e7d-8b11-d939ee4b7bc3
I.e., cut the end off your (typical) cable and mount THAT to a PCB.

so https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/gct/USB4151-GF-C/12139043
or https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/jae-electronics/DX07VN24WA2C1568/9695489

Are they too tall?
Yeah, I think so. ISTM that you only need about ~6mm penetration into the
mating connector so anything beyond that is just \"bragging rights\" :

a regular usb-c cable has ~7mm and those pcb mount ones will in most cases
have to go through a hole in an enclosure, so the ~10mm makes sense

From the plane of the PCB, they are closer to 12mm. The receptacles
only need < 5mm penetration for the connection so there\'s a 7mm gap
between where the top \"surface\" (edge) of the receptacle lies and
the plane of the PCB. I can\'t afford that gap (regardless of whether
or not other applications can -- or NEED it!)
 
søndag den 22. januar 2023 kl. 13.54.49 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 1/22/2023 5:34 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
søndag den 22. januar 2023 kl. 07.59.32 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 1/21/2023 10:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2023-01-22, Don Y <blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/21/2023 8:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2023-01-21, Don Y <blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:
I\'m looking for a USB C (male) connector that can mount
\"standing up\", normal to the PCB -- and have a total height
effectively the same as the insertion length of a normal
connector. SMT or thru-hole.

\"male\" so you want what the USB spec calls a receptacle?

No. The mate to this:
https://www.digikey.com/-/media/Images/Product%20Highlights/C/CUI%20Devices/Power%20Only%20USB%20Type-C%20Receptacle/USB-200.jpg?la=en&ts=3f245263-2db6-4e7d-8b11-d939ee4b7bc3
I.e., cut the end off your (typical) cable and mount THAT to a PCB.

so https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/gct/USB4151-GF-C/12139043
or https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/jae-electronics/DX07VN24WA2C1568/9695489

Are they too tall?
Yeah, I think so. ISTM that you only need about ~6mm penetration into the
mating connector so anything beyond that is just \"bragging rights\" :

a regular usb-c cable has ~7mm and those pcb mount ones will in most cases
have to go through a hole in an enclosure, so the ~10mm makes sense
From the plane of the PCB, they are closer to 12mm. The receptacles
only need < 5mm penetration for the connection so there\'s a 7mm gap
between where the top \"surface\" (edge) of the receptacle lies and
the plane of the PCB. I can\'t afford that gap (regardless of whether
or not other applications can -- or NEED it!)

looks like shorter ones do exist, https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/USB-3-1-Type-C-Jack_1600638481394.html
 
On 1/22/2023 6:28 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
søndag den 22. januar 2023 kl. 13.54.49 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 1/22/2023 5:34 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
søndag den 22. januar 2023 kl. 07.59.32 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 1/21/2023 10:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2023-01-22, Don Y <blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/21/2023 8:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2023-01-21, Don Y <blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:
I\'m looking for a USB C (male) connector that can mount
\"standing up\", normal to the PCB -- and have a total height
effectively the same as the insertion length of a normal
connector. SMT or thru-hole.

\"male\" so you want what the USB spec calls a receptacle?

No. The mate to this:
https://www.digikey.com/-/media/Images/Product%20Highlights/C/CUI%20Devices/Power%20Only%20USB%20Type-C%20Receptacle/USB-200.jpg?la=en&ts=3f245263-2db6-4e7d-8b11-d939ee4b7bc3
I.e., cut the end off your (typical) cable and mount THAT to a PCB.

so https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/gct/USB4151-GF-C/12139043
or https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/jae-electronics/DX07VN24WA2C1568/9695489

Are they too tall?
Yeah, I think so. ISTM that you only need about ~6mm penetration into the
mating connector so anything beyond that is just \"bragging rights\" :

a regular usb-c cable has ~7mm and those pcb mount ones will in most cases
have to go through a hole in an enclosure, so the ~10mm makes sense
From the plane of the PCB, they are closer to 12mm. The receptacles
only need < 5mm penetration for the connection so there\'s a 7mm gap
between where the top \"surface\" (edge) of the receptacle lies and
the plane of the PCB. I can\'t afford that gap (regardless of whether
or not other applications can -- or NEED it!)

looks like shorter ones do exist, https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/USB-3-1-Type-C-Jack_1600638481394.html

A little better -- ~3mm (if I can find the source of the connectors
w/o the silly little adapter board!)

Thanks!
 
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 22:14:20 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:

On 1/21/2023 1:23 PM, Don Y wrote:
I\'m looking for a USB C (male) connector that can mount
\"standing up\", normal to the PCB -- and have a total height
effectively the same as the insertion length of a normal
connector.  SMT or thru-hole.

Problem solved! :

One problm with C connectors is that they are small and can be ripped
off PCBs by forces applied to cables. They need mechanical help.

We prefer to use the big old square printer-type B\'s when we can. They
are pretty much indestructable.

Some of the parallel-to-the-board C types have large solder connection
areas, which can be soldered to big copper pours with lots of vias.
 
søndag den 22. januar 2023 kl. 16.50.32 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 22:14:20 -0700, Don Y
blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:

On 1/21/2023 1:23 PM, Don Y wrote:
I\'m looking for a USB C (male) connector that can mount
\"standing up\", normal to the PCB -- and have a total height
effectively the same as the insertion length of a normal
connector. SMT or thru-hole.

Problem solved! :

One problm with C connectors is that they are small and can be ripped
off PCBs by forces applied to cables. They need mechanical help.

We prefer to use the big old square printer-type B\'s when we can. They
are pretty much indestructable.

Some of the parallel-to-the-board C types have large solder connection
areas, which can be soldered to big copper pours with lots of vias.

and many of them have pins through the board
 

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