Spartan-3 shipping, or perhaps not!

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Leon Heller

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According to the Xilinx home page two of the Spartan-3 family are in
production and shipping. However, when the link is followed, one is
taken to an old press release which says that four family members are
shipping! Which is correct?

Leon
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Leon,

Not the clearest presentation,I'll admit.

Two devices, the 50J and 1000J are ES only, as they are the non-3.3V
versions of the part. They are to be replaced with the non-J parts soon.

There are four devices that are 3.3V compliant, and out now.

Four are shipping and sampling with all features, with two of the four
in production, and the remaining two in ES mode for a little longer.

Sorry for the confusion.

Austin

Leon Heller wrote:
According to the Xilinx home page two of the Spartan-3 family are in
production and shipping. However, when the link is followed, one is
taken to an old press release which says that four family members are
shipping! Which is correct?

Leon
Click to expand...
 
Four are shipping and sampling with all features, with two of the four
in production, and the remaining two in ES mode for a little longer.
Click to expand...
Austin,

Is that four parts in all footprints or four part/
footprint combinations?

Any more details on which four?

A client on mine has just spent a desperate couple of
days trying to source a Spartan3 device they've designed
in to their next generation product, they only need
a few (<10) for prototyping.

Any of the footprint compatible parts would probably
do, but it's hard finding out what's available.


Nial


------------------------------------------------
Nial Stewart Developments Ltd
FPGA and High Speed Digital Design
www.nialstewartdevelopments.co.uk
 
Uwe,

The upturn in the electronics industry caught everyone off-guard.

As was disclosed in our last fiscal report, the Q to Q numbers were up
16%, which is a lot like saying "wow!" or maybe "ouch!" -- depends on
your point of view.

Unfortunately, we have to build our chips in advance of their need, and
the fab cycle is not getting any shorter as the technology gets smaller.
No one was willing to make any committments in November. Now everyone
wants parts, and lots of them.

It is not only S3, but even some of the older parts as well.

Thus, the chips we find today to ship started their life sometime in the
summer and early fall based on the projections and orders that we had,
and anticipated.

We are doing our best to meet all requests.

Austin

Uwe Bonnes wrote:

Austin Lesea <austin@xilinx.com> wrote:
: Leon,

: Not the clearest presentation,I'll admit.

: Two devices, the 50J and 1000J are ES only, as they are the non-3.3V
: versions of the part. They are to be replaced with the non-J parts soon.

: There are four devices that are 3.3V compliant, and out now.

: Four are shipping and sampling with all features, with two of the four
: in production, and the remaining two in ES mode for a little longer.

: Sorry for the confusion.

When can we expect these parts to be available at distributors?
E.g. nuhorizons list no XC3S available at the moment.

Bye
Click to expand...
 
Nial,

FAEs have the documents, so I would suggest they put in the request to
find out from them.

Austin

Nial Stewart wrote:

Four are shipping and sampling with all features, with two of the four
in production, and the remaining two in ES mode for a little longer.


Austin,

Is that four parts in all footprints or four part/
footprint combinations?

Any more details on which four?

A client on mine has just spent a desperate couple of
days trying to source a Spartan3 device they've designed
in to their next generation product, they only need
a few (<10) for prototyping.

Any of the footprint compatible parts would probably
do, but it's hard finding out what's available.


Nial


------------------------------------------------
Nial Stewart Developments Ltd
FPGA and High Speed Digital Design
www.nialstewartdevelopments.co.uk
Click to expand...
 
Austin Lesea <austin@xilinx.com> wrote:
: Leon,

: Not the clearest presentation,I'll admit.

: Two devices, the 50J and 1000J are ES only, as they are the non-3.3V
: versions of the part. They are to be replaced with the non-J parts soon.

: There are four devices that are 3.3V compliant, and out now.

: Four are shipping and sampling with all features, with two of the four
: in production, and the remaining two in ES mode for a little longer.

: Sorry for the confusion.

When can we expect these parts to be available at distributors?
E.g. nuhorizons list no XC3S available at the moment.

Bye
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Austin Lesea wrote:
Nial,

FAEs have the documents, so I would suggest they put in the request to
find out from them.
Click to expand...
I can say that I was promised to have parts in my hand by November and I
am still waiting.

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removed.

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Specializing in DSP and FPGA design URL http://www.arius.com
4 King Ave 301-682-7772 Voice
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Rick,

What part, and by whom?

I like to check on things when I see an issue such as yours,

Austin

rickman wrote:
Austin Lesea wrote:

Nial,

FAEs have the documents, so I would suggest they put in the request to
find out from them.


I can say that I was promised to have parts in my hand by November and I
am still waiting.
Click to expand...
 
"Austin Lesea" <austin@xilinx.com> wrote in message
news:c0eg9u$qs52@cliff.xsj.xilinx.com...
Rick,

What part, and by whom?
I like to check on things when I see an issue such as yours,
Austin

rickman wrote:
Austin Lesea wrote:

Nial,

FAEs have the documents, so I would suggest they put in the request to
find out from them.
I can say that I was promised to have parts in my hand by November and I
am still waiting.
Click to expand...
6 week lead time was given to me also from Memec in September for S3, so it
should have had shipped in November. I didnt even order because I did not
believe that. As I see those who ordered have still not received the parts.
Sorry Austin.

But for all others - the industry is really really down, leadtimes are
longer, parts that you expected to be off-stock are not anymore.

I did part order yesterday (from digikey) and was terrified to see how many
positions where not available any more :(

Antti Lukats
 
May be that article somehow explains discussed odd situation
concerning Spartan-3 availability.
http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article2.asp?datePublish=2004/02/13&pages=A1&seq=1
 
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