Spammers and Other Deviates............

[Randy Robinson]

Greetings Gentlemen,

I subscribed to this group in "hope" of finding a low spam group with mostly
on topic posters. LOL! After reading a few posts from the regulars and
spammers alike, you can't help but notice the desperate attempt to out mock,
curse, threaten, mame or kill each other. Here, it is no different than the
hundreds of other groups I no longer subscribe to. (for that very same
reason).
More time is wasted on regulars flaming spammers than on answering legit
posts and actually helping someone. Nothing is more annoying than reading
a post from someone that needs help and seeing one or two legit reply's and
then 30 threads from "regulars" bashing and flaming each other! Who are the
spammers now? Look, spammers will always be a big problem in any
moderated / un-moderated newsgroup. The best thing you can do is "IGNORE
THEM"! Report them if you wish, and lastly, filter them out in your browser
settings. Yes, the same goes for spammers as for not taking care of your
teeth.
"Ignore them" and they will "go away"!
Just trying to help (yet another) good newsgroup, going astray.

Randy

PS: I realize my post is off topic. Please go easy on me.... (or, ignore
it).
See how easy that was?

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Randy Robinson wrote:

Greetings Gentlemen,

I subscribed to this group in "hope" of finding a low spam group with mostly
on topic posters. LOL! After reading a few posts from the regulars and
spammers alike, you can't help but notice the desperate attempt to out mock,
curse, threaten, mame or kill each other. Here, it is no different than the
hundreds of other groups I no longer subscribe to. (for that very same
reason).
More time is wasted on regulars flaming spammers than on answering legit
posts and actually helping someone. Nothing is more annoying than reading
a post from someone that needs help and seeing one or two legit reply's and
then 30 threads from "regulars" bashing and flaming each other! Who are the
spammers now? Look, spammers will always be a big problem in any
moderated / un-moderated newsgroup. The best thing you can do is "IGNORE
THEM"! Report them if you wish, and lastly, filter them out in your browser
settings. Yes, the same goes for spammers as for not taking care of your
teeth.
"Ignore them" and they will "go away"!
Just trying to help (yet another) good newsgroup, going astray.

Randy

PS: I realize my post is off topic. Please go easy on me.... (or, ignore
it).
See how easy that was?

You don't know the meaning of "spam". Do you?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Aly]

"Randy Robinson" <randy2006@centurytel.net@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:4aydnTmQduDH_gzbnZ2dnUVZ_rSinZ2d@centurytel.net...

Greetings Gentlemen,

And ladies..

Good points. I think this whole thing is enevitiable though and will
increase.

The major cause has been computers becoming more user-friendly to use, such
that any idiot can now produce an A4 printout thus proclaimed as an expert.

Personally I would love to take everything back to a CLI where computers
were unfriendly, and to use them intelligence and knowledge were required.

My modern PC crashes. My 1986 IBM XT-286 has been switched on since well,
erm.. 1986. It's only been rebooted a number of times.

Every modern embedded networking infrastructure routers now crash.

How on earth we got into this mess in anybody's guess. Computers (and
equipment) used to work you know.. ;-)

 

[JeffM]

Aly wrote:

I think this whole thing is enevitiable though and will increase.

Only one-time events are inevitable. The problem is PROVIDERS.

If the spam isn't *inbound* in huge quantities,
they don't see it as a problem.
If they would enforce their own Terms of Service,
this crap would be throttled after the initial complaint.

The major cause has been
computers becoming more user-friendly to use,
such that any idiot can now produce[...]

Nope. The major cause is spineless capitalist PROVIDERS.

I put the problem of *Usenet* spam squarely at Google's door.
Look at the headers of the next 10 Usenet spams you see.
At least 9 out of 10 will come thru Google.
If you looked at 100, you'd see it was 98%.

If every provider (Web, email, Usenet, whatever) had a page that said
"You are in violation...
Click here to send us your $200 penalty
so we can re-activate your account "
this crap would stop RIGHT NOW.

Google's allowing any idiot to open a new account
AFTER having an account terminated [1]
and USING THE SAME EMAIL ADDRESS
is evidence of what a bunch of asshats are running Google Groups.
Google is based on **filtering data** after all.
..
..
[1] ...and THAT takes some doing

 

[John Tserkezis]

JeffM wrote:

I put the problem of *Usenet* spam squarely at Google's door.

Two things: That doesn't mean a thing, and your trace goes back to google as
well.

Today it's google. Yesterday it was hotmail, yahoo, you name it. Fact
remains most spam (as in eMail spam) nowadays comes from zombie machines with
dedicated software doing the job.
Dedicated software installed by the end users who don't know any different,
and double click on email attachments such as "bigtits.exe".

Today, if you want to point the finger anywhere, point it at the average
windows user who's too stupid to tell the difference between a valid
attachment from a colleague, and malware. Oh, the fact they insist on running
MS Outhouse express doesn't help matters any.
--
Linux Registered User # 302622
<http://counter.li.org>

 

[networkinghardware.net]

Randy, I agree 100%


On Jul 9, 5:31 am, "Randy Robinson"
<randy2...@centurytel.net@centurytel.net> wrote:

Greetings Gentlemen,

I subscribed to this group in "hope" of finding a low spam group with mostly
on topic posters. LOL! After reading a few posts from the regulars and
spammers alike, you can't help but notice the desperate attempt to out mock,
curse, threaten, mame or kill each other. Here, it is no different than the
hundreds of other groups I no longer subscribe to. (for that very same
reason).
More time is wasted on regulars flaming spammers than on answering legit
posts and actually helping someone. Nothing is more annoying than reading
a post from someone that needs help and seeing one or two legit reply's and
then 30 threads from "regulars" bashing and flaming each other! Who are the
spammers now? Look, spammers will always be a big problem in any
moderated / un-moderated newsgroup. The best thing you can do is "IGNORE
THEM"! Report them if you wish, and lastly, filter them out in your browser
settings. Yes, the same goes for spammers as for not taking care of your
teeth.
"Ignore them" and they will "go away"!
Just trying to help (yet another) good newsgroup, going astray.

Randy

PS: I realize my post is off topic. Please go easy on me.... (or, ignore
it).
See how easy that was?

 

[JeffM]

Randy Robinson wrote:

the same goes for spammers as for not taking care of your teeth.
Ignore them" and they will "go away"!

Obviously you haven't been paying attention
to the antics of the Thai jerk...or the jerk from Singapore.
One thing is for sure:
Spammers don't see THEMSELVES as the problem.
They are sociopaths who will do whatever they will.
If their PROVIDERS can't be convinced to take a different stance
than their subscribers are taking, things won't change.

The best thing you can do is "IGNORE THEM"!

No. You **report** them.

The power YOU have is to try to convince a *responsible* provider
to terminate the account. Inbox bulk *can* count.
If you want to plonk them AFTER reporting them, that is your option.
If everyone just plonks them,
there will NEVER be any repercussions for the spammers
--unless you are willing to hunt him down in meatspace
and give him the treatment you would administer to any other parasite.
..
..
networkinghardware.net TOP-POSTED:

Randy, I agree 100%

....says the idiot spammer[1].

Does anyone *really* need more evidence
that spammers are at the left edge of the bell curve?
..
..
[1] I know; it's redundant.

 

[JeffM]

JeffM wrote:

I put the problem of *Usenet* spam squarely at Google's door.

John Tserkezis wrote:
Two things: That doesn't mean a thing,

I bet you didn't pay attention in school either.

and your trace goes back to google as well.

I'm sure you have a point--but if you comb your hair right

and wear a hat maybe no one will notice.

Today it's google. Yesterday it was hotmail, yahoo, you name it.

I said **USENET** spam. Pay attention.

Fact remains most spam (as in eMail spam) nowadays
comes from zombie machines with dedicated software doing the job.
[...more rambling drivel..]

Fact is: Those machines are connected to a NETWORK.

I have already said that *if*, upon receipt of a complaint,
the ADMINISTRATOR for that network would SANDBOX the offender[1],
the infection wouldn't have anything to do.
The PROBLEM is THE GATEKEEPER.
The REASON the problem isn't handled is GREED.

Today, if you want to point the finger anywhere,
point it at the average windows user

Well, after a complaint about that user is made to an access provider,

those things should become LOCAL problems only.

who's too stupid
to tell the difference between a valid attachment from a colleague,
and malware. Oh, the fact they insist on running MS Outhouse express
doesn't help matters any.

On a NETWORK with a PROPER administrator,

these peoples' bad choices / ignorance
don't become OTHER people's problems.
Again: The operative word is "SANDBOX".

Linux Registered User # 302622
http://counter.li.org

If people had to PAY the FULL price--in cash

and in inconvience (which today is passed on to others)--
of using a 4th-rate easily-infected OS
there would be A LOT of folks switching over to some *n*x variant.
..
..
[1] ...and as I have said elsewhere: **MAKE THE OFFENDER PAY
for his poor security techniques or immoral behavior**.

 

[Randy Robinson]

Dear, Lonely, Pathic and ?....... Mr. Terrell, (or is that Mr. TERROR?)

How did I know that you would be the first to reply to my post? Actually, I
wrote
it because of you (and others). Go away!!! Unless, you actually have
something to
"CONTRIBUTE" to this, or any other NG. I must not know the true meaning of
spam
since you are the "King" of Spam and Flaming. Well, at least Flaming from
reading
way too many of your reply's, in way too many NG's. Look, get a grip. Get
back
to reality Mr. DD214 & DAV #85. I have my own DD214, 2 Purple Hearts,
Distinguished Service Cross and Medal Of Honor. Yet, I conduct myself here
not
as a "Vermon" like you, but an actual "Veteran". A person, a descent,
respectful person.
Exception being, when it comes to "full of themselves" persons like you. I
am ashamed
for All Honorable Servicemen, that "you" were once in service to this Great
Country.
You conduct yourself not as a help, but Hindrance. If you really want to do
your
Country a service, please remove all references to your your DD214 and DAV
status
in your future flaming. You sir, are an "Embarrassment" to all Veterans by
the way you
conduct yourself. I have a "Gut" feeling that all my words have been wasted
on you and
will do no good anyway. (go figure?). Losers are Losers, after all. And, If
Moron's Could
Fly, The Sky Would Be BLACK! Need I say more? Actually, yes.......I would
like to thank
all of the other posters that had "Positive" Feedback to my post. They
understand and agree
that Mr. Terrell and his kind should disappear. POOF! Wouldn't that be NICE?

And, on a more personal note, for "Poor Disabled" Mr. Mike Terrell, I am
disabled too.
(in service to My Country, from where all those Wonderful Medals came from).
Yes, I have
no right arm or leg and half of my Intestines on that side. My left arm is
severed from slightly
below the elbow. Thank GOD for Prosthetic's. It is the only reason I can
type this reply and
feed myself. (I am actually proud of that!). I type one letter at a time. It
took over two hours
to do this response to another "so called" Veteran, (did you hear that
Mike?) and the group.
Do you feel sorry for me? I wouldn't. I am happy to be alive! I have no
regrets and would
do it all over again, even knowing the risk. Did you hear that too Mike?
Maybe you need to
contact a community service group like I did years ago. I felt sorry for
myself for many years
just as you do now. I basically rotted away at the VA Hospital, Hell, at
least you can type! Lol.
Well, maybe that is a bad thing for us NG Purists............

Randy

PS: If you do not have anything GOOD to say then,.................You
guessed it!



"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4691FD2D.B7123E2A@earthlink.net...

You don't know the meaning of "spam". Do you?

Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Randy Robinson wrote:

Dear, Lonely, Pathic and ?....... Mr. Terrell, (or is that Mr. TERROR?)

Yawn. Very childish.

How did I know that you would be the first to reply to my post? Actually, I
wrote
it because of you (and others). Go away!!! Unless, you actually have
something to
"CONTRIBUTE" to this, or any other NG.

Do you have anything to contribute, or valid questions?

I must not know the true meaning of spam
since you are the "King" of Spam and Flaming.

Spam is not allowed, by the group charter. Flaming is reserved for
those who come in carrying cans of gasoline and matches.

Well, at least Flaming from
reading
way too many of your reply's, in way too many NG's. Look, get a grip. Get
back
to reality Mr. DD214 & DAV #85. I have my own DD214, 2 Purple Hearts,
Distinguished Service Cross and Medal Of Honor. Yet, I conduct myself here
not
as a "Vermon" like you, but an actual "Veteran". A person, a descent,
respectful person.

For a 'respectful' person, you have no respect for others, do you?

Exception being, when it comes to "full of themselves" persons like you. I
am ashamed
for All Honorable Servicemen, that "you" were once in service to this Great
Country.
You conduct yourself not as a help, but Hindrance. If you really want to do
your
Country a service, please remove all references to your your DD214 and DAV
status
in your future flaming.

It is there because of an online stalker who tried to shut down a
volunteer program to provide local Disabled Veterans with free, working
used computers, and will remain as long as he's up to his dirty tricks.


You sir, are an "Embarrassment" to all Veterans by

the way you
conduct yourself. I have a "Gut" feeling that all my words have been wasted
on you and
will do no good anyway. (go figure?). Losers are Losers, after all. And, If
Moron's Could
Fly, The Sky Would Be BLACK!

I'm sure that you would be leading the pack, and leaving the biggest
trail.

Need I say more? Actually, yes.......I would
like to thank
all of the other posters that had "Positive" Feedback to my post. They
understand and agree
that Mr. Terrell and his kind should disappear. POOF! Wouldn't that be NICE?

Yawn.

And, on a more personal note, for "Poor Disabled" Mr. Mike Terrell, I am
disabled too.
(in service to My Country, from where all those Wonderful Medals came from).
Yes, I have
no right arm or leg and half of my Intestines on that side. My left arm is
severed from slightly
below the elbow. Thank GOD for Prosthetics. It is the only reason I can
type this reply and
feed myself. (I am actually proud of that!).

I spent two years that I couldn't feed myself, every day, while
waiting to se a VA doctor the first time. I was awarded 100% disability
40 days after I filed. Does that tell you anything? The last thing in
the world i wanted to see was the statement on the front page: "it is
obvious that this individual will never be able to work again" They
didn't even try to find something I could do, because of my age, and the
long list of medical problems.

I type one letter at a time. It
took over two hours
to do this response to another "so called" Veteran, (did you hear that
Mike?) and the group.

I have almost no use of my left hand, and have to type one handed, as
well.

Do you feel sorry for me? I wouldn't. I am happy to be alive! I have no
regrets and would
do it all over again, even knowing the risk. Did you hear that too Mike?

I was 4F for five medical problems and couldn't enlist. So, when the
discovered my electronics background, I was drafted. Have you ever seen
a DD-214 with no secondary MOS? That's how bad my health was, but I
served.

Maybe you need to
contact a community service group like I did years ago. I felt sorry for
myself for many years
just as you do now.

You have NO idea how I feel, just your fantasies.


I basically rotted away at the VA Hospital, Hell, at

least you can type! Lol.
Well, maybe that is a bad thing for us NG Purists............

Randy

PS: If you do not have anything GOOD to say then,.................You
guessed it!

Obviously you still have a huge chip on your shoulder. You have my
sympathy, if your story is real. I have run across a lot of people who
made similar claims, only to discover that they were not only not
disabled, but had never served. Your smart ass remarks about MY service
lead me to believe that you are lying, but if you are, its your problem,
not mine.

I did nothing to dishonor the US military, and received a letter of
commendation from my commanding general for work above and beyond the
call of duty. If you can't accept that fact, you can take your own
advice.

I spend my good days helping other Disabled Veterans, where and when I
can. I will be adding more Veterans information to my sig file
shortly. I have taken on the task of creating a website to provide
information about veterans issues to the local community. They have no
idea of all the behind the scenes work done to help the community, and
no place to find it. the basic shell is ready, and I am paying the
$200+ to launch it out of my $900 a month pension. Can you tell me what
you've done to help others? You should see the things some of the
severely Disabled Veterans around here can do.

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Randy Robinson]

But wait, there's More.........

Mr. Terrell (Terror) wrote,

I spent two years that I couldn't feed myself, every day, while
waiting to se a VA doctor the "first time". I was awarded 100% disability
40 days after I filed. Does that tell you anything? The last thing in
the world i wanted to see was the statement on the front page: "it is
obvious that this individual will never be able to work again" They
didn't even try to find something I could do, because of my age, and the
long list of medical problems.

Randy wrote:

WOW, It took 2 years for a VA doctor to finally see you?
I DON'T THINK SO!
Awarded 100% disability after "only" 40 days after you filed?
Do the math. 2 years = 735 days - 40 = 690.
Did it take you 690 days to file?
Not to mention, the 2 years you could not feed yourself.
Very long time to go without food. Oh, I get it, someone
else fed you for the 2 years you waited for the "first time"
to see the Doctor. With all those medical problems........
How could we not understand?

Then, Mike Terrell wrote:

again, you are
a nut case.

And I say, you be the Judge

 

[Randy Robinson]

Well Mr. Mike Terrell,

All have to say at this point is........Were you even in the Military in
which you have stated that I have never been? Now mind you, I have seen
exceptions as far as acceptance on a "Voluntary" basis for enlistment. You
stated that
you were "drafted" as a 4F? Very hard to believe! Or, are you a wannabe and
extremely delusional?

The proof is in what you wrote.......

I was 4F for "five" medical problems and couldn't "enlist". So, when the
discovered my electronics background, I was drafted. Have you ever seen
a DD-214 with no secondary MOS? That's how bad my health was, but I
served.

Again, hard to believe Mike. I only had a Primary MOS. Actually, I only had
what was called a Primary DOS. What the hell has a secondary MOS have to do
with anything? I was a Primary 43191E. Look it up. I was in the U2 / SR 71
program. Skunkworks, the whole bit. It is somewhat de-classified now and you
will
never get me to talk about it . Thats why I am disabled as we speak By the
way,
I have a DD-256AF as my final discharge paper. But, I know, you were there,
right?

Again, Mike wrote...........

It is there because of an online stalker who tried to shut down a
volunteer program to provide local Disabled Veterans with free, working
used computers, and will remain as long as he's up to his dirty tricks.

Online stalker? Well, thats nice Mike. But what do you have to CONTRIBUTE
to this Newsgroup or any other? Go Figure? Look, I feel for you. Yes, I am
as disabled as you are, if not more. If you need someone to talk to on a
private basis, you have my email address. If you want pictures / proof, of
my service
records please let me know? I would be glad to post them here for everyone
to see.
Would you post your DD-214? I did not think so. Proof is in the
pudding.......

Please leave this Newsgroup to go on about their business......Helping
Others!

Yes, I Graduated MIT with a 3.98 GPA. I was pissed that I did not make 4.0.
The reason being, I challenged one of my Proffessors a bit too much and, he
was an arrogant asshole to boot. Thus the 3.98 GPA. Gee, life is full of
disappointments Isn't it?

On a more personal note, I have a very nice Family that visits me a few
times every year on their trek around the country. Bill, the Father is an
Electrical Engineer, the Wife is, well, a great Mother and has been the
greatest encouragement to me! They are My Family now. They are well
off and live close to you in WPB. They have flown me down every year
to Florida for the past ten years and we go fishing on their Yacht and have
fun for the whole month we spend together. They have one Son and a
Daughter that are just as wonderful as they are. They are the only people
I can relate to that are "real". After all, I could still be rotting away
in the VA hospital 24/7/365. So, I hope you see Mike, Spread a little
Cheer....... Screw your DD-214! Your DD-214 and 50 cents "may" buy
you a cup of Coffee. Get over it! No more relpy's to you. I am sticking to
my guns from this point on as from my original post. I will Ignore you and
you will go away. Just like negletcted teeth.

I rest my case. Amen and Amen!

Randy











errell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:46A07C1C.BEE897A9@earthlink.net...

Randy Robinson wrote:

Dear, Lonely, Pathic and ?....... Mr. Terrell, (or is that Mr. TERROR?)

Yawn. Very childish.


How did I know that you would be the first to reply to my post?
Actually, I
wrote
it because of you (and others). Go away!!! Unless, you actually have
something to
"CONTRIBUTE" to this, or any other NG.


Do you have anything to contribute, or valid questions?


I must not know the true meaning of spam
since you are the "King" of Spam and Flaming.


Spam is not allowed, by the group charter. Flaming is reserved for
those who come in carrying cans of gasoline and matches.


Well, at least Flaming from
reading
way too many of your reply's, in way too many NG's. Look, get a grip.
Get
back
to reality Mr. DD214 & DAV #85. I have my own DD214, 2 Purple Hearts,
Distinguished Service Cross and Medal Of Honor. Yet, I conduct myself
here
not
as a "Vermon" like you, but an actual "Veteran". A person, a descent,
respectful person.


For a 'respectful' person, you have no respect for others, do you?


Exception being, when it comes to "full of themselves" persons like you.
I
am ashamed
for All Honorable Servicemen, that "you" were once in service to this
Great
Country.
You conduct yourself not as a help, but Hindrance. If you really want to
do
your
Country a service, please remove all references to your your DD214 and
DAV
status
in your future flaming.


It is there because of an online stalker who tried to shut down a
volunteer program to provide local Disabled Veterans with free, working
used computers, and will remain as long as he's up to his dirty tricks.


You sir, are an "Embarrassment" to all Veterans by
the way you
conduct yourself. I have a "Gut" feeling that all my words have been
wasted
on you and
will do no good anyway. (go figure?). Losers are Losers, after all. And,
If
Moron's Could
Fly, The Sky Would Be BLACK!


I'm sure that you would be leading the pack, and leaving the biggest
trail.

Need I say more? Actually, yes.......I would
like to thank
all of the other posters that had "Positive" Feedback to my post. They
understand and agree
that Mr. Terrell and his kind should disappear. POOF! Wouldn't that be
NICE?



Yawn.


And, on a more personal note, for "Poor Disabled" Mr. Mike Terrell, I am
disabled too.
(in service to My Country, from where all those Wonderful Medals came
from).
Yes, I have
no right arm or leg and half of my Intestines on that side. My left arm
is
severed from slightly
below the elbow. Thank GOD for Prosthetics. It is the only reason I can
type this reply and
feed myself. (I am actually proud of that!).


I spent two years that I couldn't feed myself, every day, while
waiting to se a VA doctor the first time. I was awarded 100% disability
40 days after I filed. Does that tell you anything? The last thing in
the world i wanted to see was the statement on the front page: "it is
obvious that this individual will never be able to work again" They
didn't even try to find something I could do, because of my age, and the
long list of medical problems.


I type one letter at a time. It
took over two hours
to do this response to another "so called" Veteran, (did you hear that
Mike?) and the group.


I have almost no use of my left hand, and have to type one handed, as
well.


Do you feel sorry for me? I wouldn't. I am happy to be alive! I have no
regrets and would
do it all over again, even knowing the risk. Did you hear that too Mike?


I was 4F for five medical problems and couldn't enlist. So, when the
discovered my electronics background, I was drafted. Have you ever seen
a DD-214 with no secondary MOS? That's how bad my health was, but I
served.


Maybe you need to
contact a community service group like I did years ago. I felt sorry for
myself for many years
just as you do now.


You have NO idea how I feel, just your fantasies.


I basically rotted away at the VA Hospital, Hell, at
least you can type! Lol.
Well, maybe that is a bad thing for us NG Purists............

Randy

PS: If you do not have anything GOOD to say then,.................You
guessed it!


Obviously you still have a huge chip on your shoulder. You have my
sympathy, if your story is real. I have run across a lot of people who
made similar claims, only to discover that they were not only not
disabled, but had never served. Your smart ass remarks about MY service
lead me to believe that you are lying, but if you are, its your problem,
not mine.

I did nothing to dishonor the US military, and received a letter of
commendation from my commanding general for work above and beyond the
call of duty. If you can't accept that fact, you can take your own
advice.

I spend my good days helping other Disabled Veterans, where and when I
can. I will be adding more Veterans information to my sig file
shortly. I have taken on the task of creating a website to provide
information about veterans issues to the local community. They have no
idea of all the behind the scenes work done to help the community, and
no place to find it. the basic shell is ready, and I am paying the
$200+ to launch it out of my $900 a month pension. Can you tell me what
you've done to help others? You should see the things some of the
severely Disabled Veterans around here can do.

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Randy Robinson wrote:

Well Mr. Mike Terrell,

All have to say at this point is........Were you even in the Military in
which you have stated that I have never been? Now mind you, I have seen
exceptions as far as acceptance on a "Voluntary" basis for enlistment. You
stated that you were "drafted" as a 4F? Very hard to believe!

Ever hear of local draft boards needing 'warm bodies' during the end
of the Vietnam era? They took me instead of a drug addict. They didn't
have enough warm bodies that month. Any young man who had a job in that
group was drafted, and all the deadbeats were dismissed. The druggie
was a half pound over minimum weight, so they made him strip naked and
he was just a hair under the requirement, so they could dismiss him.

Or, are you a wannabe and extremely delusional?

From the DOD records at Military.com:
http://profile.military.com/member/view.do?memberId=6483427 or are you
going to claim that the DOD is delusional, as well?

The proof is in what you wrote.......

I was 4F for "five" medical problems and couldn't "enlist". So, when they
discovered my electronics background, I was drafted. Have you ever seen
a DD-214 with no secondary MOS? That's how bad my health was, but I
served.

Again, hard to believe Mike. I only had a Primary MOS. Actually, I only had
what was called a Primary DOS. What the hell has a secondary MOS have to do
with anything?

Everyone who was able to fight had a secondary MOS as infantry.

I was a Primary 43191E. Look it up. I was in the U2 / SR 71
program. Skunkworks, the whole bit. It is somewhat de-classified now and you
will
never get me to talk about it .

And I can't tell you some of what I saw. Its part of military life
in the tech fields.

Thats why I am disabled as we speak By the way,
I have a DD-256AF as my final discharge paper. But, I know, you were there,
right?

Lucky you. I wanted to go Air Force to study avionics. Instead, I
ended up in Alaska baby-sitting a bunch of whiners like you. They
didn't like the movies, the TV shows, or a thousand other stupid
complaints.


As a civilian, I ended up building telemetry equipment for NASA and
NOAA and the European Space Agency.. Microdyne/L3-com 700 series, 1200
series, 1620 series, DR-2000 and RCB-2000. A customized 700 series is
aboard the ISS. It has a 48 VDC power system, instead of the standard
120/240 VAC design. We built it, and Lockheed, the primary contractor
mounted it into one of the custom aluminum racks, and added a KU band
down converter. That is one of the things I've done that you'll never
see.

Again, Mike wrote...........

It is there because of an online stalker who tried to shut down a
volunteer program to provide local Disabled Veterans with free, working
used computers, and will remain as long as he's up to his dirty tricks.

Online stalker? Well, thats nice Mike. But what do you have to CONTRIBUTE
to this Newsgroup or any other?

What are you contributing, other than your anger? It doesn't do
anyone any good, and I'm sure you know it.

Go Figure? Look, I feel for you. Yes, I am
as disabled as you are, if not more. If you need someone to talk to on a
private basis, you have my email address. If you want pictures / proof, of
my service
records please let me know? I would be glad to post them here for everyone
to see.
Would you post your DD-214? I did not think so. Proof is in the
pudding.......

It will be going on line, but not till my new website is ready to
launch. Probably two months yet. I will also post the letter of
commendation I received from the USARAL Commanding General.

Please leave this Newsgroup to go on about their business......Helping
Others!

Yes, I Graduated MIT with a 3.98 GPA. I was pissed that I did not make 4.0.
The reason being, I challenged one of my Proffessors a bit too much and, he
was an arrogant asshole to boot. Thus the 3.98 GPA. Gee, life is full of
disappointments Isn't it?

Whine whine whine. Life is more important than a few numbers. I
tested out of a three year electronics course at Ft. Monmoth, and went
right to permanent duty. The MOS was 26T20. Look it up, and try to
figure out what the title really means.

On a more personal note, I have a very nice Family that visits me a few
times every year on their trek around the country.

I have family next door, who I see almost every day. My dad, my
stepmother, and their 'kid'.
http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/photos.html

Bill, the Father is an Electrical Engineer,

Good for him. My did was white collar in the paper industry.


the Wife is, well, a great Mother and has been the

greatest encouragement to me!

You're lucky. I lost my mother to colon rectal cancer when she was
52. She suffered in horrible pain for almost a year before she passed
on.

They are My Family now. They are well
off and live close to you in WPB.

Right state, wrong area.

They have flown me down every year
to Florida for the past ten years and we go fishing on their Yacht and have
fun for the whole month we spend together. They have one Son and a
Daughter that are just as wonderful as they are. They are the only people
I can relate to that are "real". After all, I could still be rotting away
in the VA hospital 24/7/365. So, I hope you see Mike, Spread a little
Cheer....... Screw your DD-214! Your DD-214 and 50 cents "may" buy
you a cup of Coffee. Get over it! No more replies to you.

A VERY closed mind? Oh well. It must be nice to have the luxury to
not have to think.

I am sticking to
my guns from this point on as from my original post. I will Ignore you and
you will go away. Just like negletcted teeth.

You have no idea, do you?

I rest my case. Amen and Amen!

Randy

Whatever you say. Randy, you have my deepest sympathy.



--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Randy Robinson wrote:

But wait, there's More.........

Mr. Terrell (Terror) wrote,

I spent two years that I couldn't feed myself, every day, while
waiting to se a VA doctor the "first time". I was awarded 100% disability
40 days after I filed. Does that tell you anything? The last thing in
the world i wanted to see was the statement on the front page: "it is
obvious that this individual will never be able to work again" They
didn't even try to find something I could do, because of my age, and the
long list of medical problems.

Randy wrote:

WOW, It took 2 years for a VA doctor to finally see you?
I DON'T THINK SO!

Whatever you think doesn't matter. Apparently you've already made up
your mind so you don't have to. The facts are that there is still a
shortage of doctors at the local VA Outpatient clinic. The Gainsville
VA hospital is overcrowded, and has been promised an expansion, for
years. The VA has opened another clinic to the south of me, but they
sent part of the existing staff down there, to relieve crowding at the
main clinic. It took 15 months from the date it was requested, till I
had a colonoscopy.

Awarded 100% disability after "only" 40 days after you filed?
Do the math. 2 years = 735 days - 40 = 690.

You do the math. I was told that they had to compile some current
medical history before I could apply. When there was enough I filed, at
the end of November. 40 days later, during the first week of January I
got my papers from the VA stating, "No one medical problem is enough to
qualify this individual for disability, but the long list of problems,
along with his age makes it obvious that he will never be able to work
again." That isn't what I wanted to see.

Did it take you 690 days to file?
Not to mention, the 2 years you could not feed yourself.

I had about $8,000 in the bank. I got rid of Cable TV, internet and
telephone service. I canceled the insurance on my truck and turned in
the tag. That left me with a house payment, homeowners insurance, food,
electric bill, and property taxes. After I used up all my savings I had
to borrow money from family that I've paid back. Finally, I had to
apply for food stamps for the last couple months. Not something I
wanted to do, and you don't eat very well on less than $150 a month,
when you're diabetic and have high blood pressure.

Very long time to go without food. Oh, I get it, someone
else fed you for the 2 years you waited for the "first time"
to see the Doctor. With all those medical problems........
How could we not understand?

Because your mind is closed tighter than Jack Benny's Vault?

Then, Mike Terrell wrote:

again, you are a nut case.

And I say, you be the Judge.

I was hoping you would try to prove me wrong, rather than go on
another mindless rant. I'm sorry that you weren't up to even this small
challenge. I do apologize. That chip on your shoulder won't help you
any, and it will hurt your health.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida