Sources of digitized/scanned old data books?

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I have in my basement/lab a fairly large collection of analog and digital data books from circa 1979-2000. It is quite a collection from mfg that include TI, AMD, AMI, National, Signetics, Fairchild, Intel, BB, Linear, Mot, etc. Also have A number of cross ref to gen purpose devices, ECG, SK, NTE etc. My collection also contains compendium of app notes from the above.

Are there any sites that have scanned versions of these data books?

They take up quite a bit of space, are used once in a blue moon but on occasion, are of some value.

Thanks for any pointers
J
 
jjhudak4@gmail.com wrote:
I have in my basement/lab a fairly large collection of analog and
digital data books from circa 1979-2000. It is quite a collection
from mfg that include TI, AMD, AMI, National, Signetics, Fairchild,
Intel, BB, Linear, Mot, etc. Also have A number of cross ref to gen
purpose devices, ECG, SK, NTE etc. My collection also contains
compendium of app notes from the above.

Are there any sites that have scanned versions of these data books?

They take up quite a bit of space, are used once in a blue moon but on
occasion, are of some value.

Thanks for any pointers
Click to expand...

Append the mfg name to the end of https://archive.org/search.php?query=
to see what's available. For instance:

https://archive.org/search.php?query=national%20semiconductor
https://archive.org/search.php?query=motorola

Thank you, 73,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU
There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.
 
Also a lot of them (usually sectioned up in per-part datasheet form) seem to
turn up on datasheets360.com.

Tim

--
Seven Transistor Labs, LLC
Electrical Engineering Consultation and Design
Website: https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/

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I have in my basement/lab a fairly large collection of analog and digital
data books from circa 1979-2000. It is quite a collection from mfg that
include TI, AMD, AMI, National, Signetics, Fairchild, Intel, BB, Linear,
Mot, etc. Also have A number of cross ref to gen purpose devices, ECG, SK,
NTE etc. My collection also contains compendium of app notes from the
above.

Are there any sites that have scanned versions of these data books?

They take up quite a bit of space, are used once in a blue moon but on
occasion, are of some value.

Thanks for any pointers
J
 
On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 9:22:41 PM UTC-4, Don Kuenz wrote:
jjhudak4 wrote:
I have in my basement/lab a fairly large collection of analog and
digital data books from circa 1979-2000. It is quite a collection
from mfg that include TI, AMD, AMI, National, Signetics, Fairchild,
Intel, BB, Linear, Mot, etc. Also have A number of cross ref to gen
purpose devices, ECG, SK, NTE etc. My collection also contains
compendium of app notes from the above.

Are there any sites that have scanned versions of these data books?

They take up quite a bit of space, are used once in a blue moon but on
occasion, are of some value.

Thanks for any pointers

Append the mfg name to the end of https://archive.org/search.php?query=
to see what's available. For instance:

https://archive.org/search.php?query=national%20semiconductor
https://archive.org/search.php?query=motorola

Thank you, 73,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU
There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.
Click to expand...

Thank you. Yes, a lot of those books look familiar. One hickup for me, it does not seem possible to download a copy??
I don't want to rely on some service when I need to look up something.

Thanks
J
 
On 21/08/2019 15:49, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
> I wish there was a service that would scan books for you. For example

Difficulty is in the books copyright. If it is your original manuscript
then there are plenty of services that will do it already.

I got this old transistor spec book. It really comes in handy
sometimes on older equipment. It starts at like "2N1". Well not quite
but pretty close. Think of a transistor that is good for 20 volts,
75mA and has a whopping hfe of 5. It's in there.
Click to expand...

You can find a surprising number of ancient gems online if you feed in
the title or author and a date. My favourite Ferranti e-line transistor
applications book that I learnt from with the aid of their reject
transistors off the tinning line startup is available this way:

https://archive.org/details/FerrantiELineTransistorApplications

I am sure my copy had a white cover. I don't have it any more. It was
and still is a very good introduction to small bipolar transistors

I can scan it but I can't generate a PDF. I would have hundreds of
JPGs. They all should be together in one PDF file. The way it is
layed out I see no sense in even trying OCR on it.
Click to expand...

Most scanners that speak twain can be linked to software that can write
a PDF. Mine does it natively (as did its predecessor).
Literally a button scan to PDF on the front cover.
Maybe I should try to find some girl for maybe ten bucks an hour to
start and start such a service. I have a few other things, like the
REAL version of Silent Weapons. I have never seen an online version
that has all the hand drawn formulae.

Ahhhk, problem with that is there are so many people who can do it.
Click to expand...

There are plenty of commercial archive services that do exactly this to
DVD/CD for corporate research lab books and the like which are required
to be kept in near perpetuity to prove invention/discovery.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
I wish there was a service that would scan books for you. For example I got this old transistor spec book. It really comes in handy sometimes on older equipment. It starts at like "2N1". Well not quite but pretty close. Think of a transistor that is good for 20 volts, 75mA and has a whopping hfe of 5. It's in there.

I can scan it but I can't generate a PDF. I would have hundreds of JPGs. They all should be together in one PDF file. The way it is layed out I see no sense in even trying OCR on it.

Maybe I should try to find some girl for maybe ten bucks an hour to start and start such a service. I have a few other things, like the REAL version of Silent Weapons. I have never seen an online version that has all the hand drawn formulae.

Ahhhk, problem with that is there are so many people who can do it.
 
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 11:01:20 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:
On 21/08/2019 15:49, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
I wish there was a service that would scan books for you. For example

Difficulty is in the books copyright. If it is your original manuscript
then there are plenty of services that will do it already.

I got this old transistor spec book. It really comes in handy
sometimes on older equipment. It starts at like "2N1". Well not quite
but pretty close. Think of a transistor that is good for 20 volts,
75mA and has a whopping hfe of 5. It's in there.

You can find a surprising number of ancient gems online if you feed in
the title or author and a date. My favourite Ferranti e-line transistor
applications book that I learnt from with the aid of their reject
transistors off the tinning line startup is available this way:

https://archive.org/details/FerrantiELineTransistorApplications

I am sure my copy had a white cover. I don't have it any more. It was
and still is a very good introduction to small bipolar transistors

I can scan it but I can't generate a PDF. I would have hundreds of
JPGs. They all should be together in one PDF file. The way it is
layed out I see no sense in even trying OCR on it.

Most scanners that speak twain can be linked to software that can write
a PDF. Mine does it natively (as did its predecessor).
Literally a button scan to PDF on the front cover.

Maybe I should try to find some girl for maybe ten bucks an hour to
start and start such a service. I have a few other things, like the
REAL version of Silent Weapons. I have never seen an online version
that has all the hand drawn formulae.

Ahhhk, problem with that is there are so many people who can do it.

There are plenty of commercial archive services that do exactly this to
DVD/CD for corporate research lab books and the like which are required
to be kept in near perpetuity to prove invention/discovery.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
Click to expand...

Unless one has a ADF and a industrial size copier/scanner, doing any doc over say 50 pages is extremely time consuming. Mechanically scanning the doc is one thing, transferring the data over a network to a machine and storage space is another factor. For reasonable quality, 400 dpi is minimum, 600 dpi is great but file size are huge (just for B&W...make it grayscale or color and it becomes a slow read/write under Windows)
 
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 10:50:02 AM UTC-4, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
I wish there was a service that would scan books for you. For example I got this old transistor spec book. It really comes in handy sometimes on older equipment. It starts at like "2N1". Well not quite but pretty close. Think of a transistor that is good for 20 volts, 75mA and has a whopping hfe of 5. It's in there.

I can scan it but I can't generate a PDF. I would have hundreds of JPGs. They all should be together in one PDF file. The way it is layed out I see no sense in even trying OCR on it.

Maybe I should try to find some girl for maybe ten bucks an hour to start and start such a service. I have a few other things, like the REAL version of Silent Weapons. I have never seen an online version that has all the hand drawn formulae.

Ahhhk, problem with that is there are so many people who can do it.
Click to expand...

I do have access to a high speed, high quality scanner. I recently found out that places like Staples, Office max, Kinkos with cut the bindings off the books for a relatively small price ($2-$5 depending on thickness (up to ~2.5") and method).
Some of the locations will scan to pdf, for a (high) price. (based on a small sample size).
With the number of books I have, doing the scanning and digital reassembly will take a *lot* of time.
 
jjhudak4@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 9:22:41 PM UTC-4, Don Kuenz wrote:
jjhudak4 wrote:
I have in my basement/lab a fairly large collection of analog and
digital data books from circa 1979-2000. It is quite a collection
from mfg that include TI, AMD, AMI, National, Signetics, Fairchild,
Intel, BB, Linear, Mot, etc. Also have A number of cross ref to gen
purpose devices, ECG, SK, NTE etc. My collection also contains
compendium of app notes from the above.

Are there any sites that have scanned versions of these data books?

They take up quite a bit of space, are used once in a blue moon but on
occasion, are of some value.

Thanks for any pointers

Append the mfg name to the end of https://archive.org/search.php?query=
to see what's available. For instance:

https://archive.org/search.php?query=national%20semiconductor
https://archive.org/search.php?query=motorola

Thank you. Yes, a lot of those books look familiar. One hickup for me,
it does not seem possible to download a copy??
I don't want to rely on some service when I need to look up something.
Click to expand...

You need to click on the book of interest to download it. When you click
on _NS Discrete Databook 1978_, for instance, archive.org displays this
page:

https://archive.org/details/NationalSemiconductorDiscreteDatabook1978

If you scroll towards the bottom it eventually displays various download
options on the right side.

As an aside, it works best for me to have both an electronic and a paper
version of a given book. ebooks are used for searches and copy and
paste. Paper books are used for reading. YMMV.

Thank you, 73,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU
There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.
 
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 2:28:54 PM UTC-4, Don Kuenz wrote:
jjhudak4@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 9:22:41 PM UTC-4, Don Kuenz wrote:
jjhudak4 wrote:
I have in my basement/lab a fairly large collection of analog and
digital data books from circa 1979-2000. It is quite a collection
from mfg that include TI, AMD, AMI, National, Signetics, Fairchild,
Intel, BB, Linear, Mot, etc. Also have A number of cross ref to gen
purpose devices, ECG, SK, NTE etc. My collection also contains
compendium of app notes from the above.

Are there any sites that have scanned versions of these data books?

They take up quite a bit of space, are used once in a blue moon but on
occasion, are of some value.

Thanks for any pointers

Append the mfg name to the end of https://archive.org/search.php?query=
to see what's available. For instance:

https://archive.org/search.php?query=national%20semiconductor
https://archive.org/search.php?query=motorola

Thank you. Yes, a lot of those books look familiar. One hickup for me,
it does not seem possible to download a copy??
I don't want to rely on some service when I need to look up something.

You need to click on the book of interest to download it. When you click
on _NS Discrete Databook 1978_, for instance, archive.org displays this
page:

https://archive.org/details/NationalSemiconductorDiscreteDatabook1978

If you scroll towards the bottom it eventually displays various download
options on the right side.

As an aside, it works best for me to have both an electronic and a paper
version of a given book. ebooks are used for searches and copy and
paste. Paper books are used for reading. YMMV.

Thank you, 73,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU
There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.
Click to expand...

ohhh yes, scroll way down....thank you. From the way it was presented in my browser, it was not apparent that there was more text below the book cover.
J
 
On 21/08/2019 17:01, jjhudak4@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 11:01:20 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown
wrote:
On 21/08/2019 15:49, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:

I can scan it but I can't generate a PDF. I would have hundreds
of JPGs. They all should be together in one PDF file. The way it
is layed out I see no sense in even trying OCR on it.

Most scanners that speak twain can be linked to software that can
write a PDF. Mine does it natively (as did its predecessor).
Literally a button scan to PDF on the front cover.

Unless one has a ADF and a industrial size copier/scanner, doing any
doc over say 50 pages is extremely time consuming. Mechanically
scanning the doc is one thing, transferring the data over a network
to a machine and storage space is another factor. For reasonable
Click to expand...

I have a scanner attached to my main PC. I scan almost all outgoing
paperwork. It is a bit tedious I grant you but takes less than 30s a
page at 300dpi.

quality, 400 dpi is minimum, 600 dpi is great but file size are huge
(just for B&W...make it grayscale or color and it becomes a slow
read/write under Windows)
Click to expand...

Only if you save as Mickeysoft BMP. There are plenty of lossy
compression choices that can do a lot better. I have fine tuned my
choices to get acceptable quality and fairly small files.

I can compress to an optimised restricted palette and save as 8 bit PNG
with a colour lookup table to get things really small.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
On 2019-08-21, jurb6006@gmail.com <jurb6006@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wish there was a service that would scan books for you.

If you don't mind losing the books, there are: bookscan.us and
1dollarscan.com. I've never used either. They might have trouble with the
thin paper used in databooks. Caveat emptor.

-- Adam
 
On 8/21/19 9:46 PM, dcaster@krl.org wrote:
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 12:01:44 PM UTC-4, jjhu...@gmail.com wrote:




Unless one has a ADF and a industrial size copier/scanner, doing any doc over say 50 pages is extremely time consuming. Mechanically scanning the doc is one thing, transferring the data over a network to a machine and storage space is another factor. For reasonable quality, 400 dpi is minimum, 600 dpi is great but file size are huge (just for B&W...make it grayscale or color and it becomes a slow read/write under Windows)

I think most digital copies of books are done with a camera , not with a scanner. Using a camera is much faster.

Dan
Click to expand...

The Artek folks generally sawed off the binding and then digitized the
individual sheets using a feeder, iirc.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 12:01:44 PM UTC-4, jjhu...@gmail.com wrote:
Unless one has a ADF and a industrial size copier/scanner, doing any doc over say 50 pages is extremely time consuming. Mechanically scanning the doc is one thing, transferring the data over a network to a machine and storage space is another factor. For reasonable quality, 400 dpi is minimum, 600 dpi is great but file size are huge (just for B&W...make it grayscale or color and it becomes a slow read/write under Windows)
Click to expand...

I think most digital copies of books are done with a camera , not with a scanner. Using a camera is much faster.

Dan
 
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 9:58:04 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 8/21/19 9:46 PM, dcaster@krl.org wrote:
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 12:01:44 PM UTC-4, jjhu...@gmail.com wrote:




Unless one has a ADF and a industrial size copier/scanner, doing any doc over say 50 pages is extremely time consuming. Mechanically scanning the doc is one thing, transferring the data over a network to a machine and storage space is another factor. For reasonable quality, 400 dpi is minimum, 600 dpi is great but file size are huge (just for B&W...make it grayscale or color and it becomes a slow read/write under Windows)

I think most digital copies of books are done with a camera , not with a scanner. Using a camera is much faster.

Dan


The Artek folks generally sawed off the binding and then digitized the
individual sheets using a feeder, iirc.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
Click to expand...

Is this the Artek you are referring to?
http://artekmanuals.com/
 
On 8/22/19 9:27 AM, jjhudak4@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 9:58:04 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 8/21/19 9:46 PM, dcaster@krl.org wrote:
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 12:01:44 PM UTC-4, jjhu...@gmail.com wrote:




Unless one has a ADF and a industrial size copier/scanner, doing any doc over say 50 pages is extremely time consuming. Mechanically scanning the doc is one thing, transferring the data over a network to a machine and storage space is another factor. For reasonable quality, 400 dpi is minimum, 600 dpi is great but file size are huge (just for B&W...make it grayscale or color and it becomes a slow read/write under Windows)

I think most digital copies of books are done with a camera , not with a scanner. Using a camera is much faster.

Dan


The Artek folks generally sawed off the binding and then digitized the
individual sheets using a feeder, iirc.

Is this the Artek you are referring to?
http://artekmanuals.com/

Yup.
Click to expand...

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 10:50:02 AM UTC-4, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
I wish there was a service that would scan books for you. For example I got this old transistor spec book. It really comes in handy sometimes on older equipment. It starts at like "2N1". Well not quite but pretty close. Think of a transistor that is good for 20 volts, 75mA and has a whopping hfe of 5. It's in there.

I can scan it but I can't generate a PDF. I would have hundreds of JPGs. They all should be together in one PDF file. The way it is layed out I see no sense in even trying OCR on it.

Maybe I should try to find some girl for maybe ten bucks an hour to start and start such a service. I have a few other things, like the REAL version of Silent Weapons. I have never seen an online version that has all the hand drawn formulae.

Ahhhk, problem with that is there are so many people who can do it.
Click to expand...

If you've already got jpg files, they can be turned into pdf by (among other things) Adobe Acrobat (the full version). If you can't find anyone to do this, send me an email and maybe I can do it.
 
rangerssuck schrieb:

[...]
If you've already got jpg files, they can be turned into pdf by
(among other things) Adobe Acrobat (the full version). If you
can't find anyone to do this, send me an email and maybe I can do
it.
Click to expand...

Irfanview (free)

<https://www.irfanview.com/>

can do it.

HTH

Reinhard
 
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