source for 40 pin TSOP test clips?

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Michael

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Hi - I need a couple test clips for a 40 pin TSOP chip. The only clips that
I've been able to find that match my needs are these:
http://www.emulation.com/catalog/off-the-
shelf_solutions/debugging_accessories/test_clips/tsop_test_clips/ - but
they are over $200 each! Surely there's something on the market that is
more reasonable in price? I'd probabaly only need 2 or 3 - but 3x200 is
alot of money for just a couple test clips!

So does anyone have any ideas? Thanks!

-Michael
 
POMONA Micro SMD grabber

"Michael" <nleahcimathotmaildotcom@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:Xns94EEA241988Dnleahcim@204.127.204.17...
Hi - I need a couple test clips for a 40 pin TSOP chip. The only clips that
I've been able to find that match my needs are these:
http://www.emulation.com/catalog/off-the-
shelf_solutions/debugging_accessories/test_clips/tsop_test_clips/ - but
they are over $200 each! Surely there's something on the market that is
more reasonable in price? I'd probabaly only need 2 or 3 - but 3x200 is
alot of money for just a couple test clips!

So does anyone have any ideas? Thanks!

-Michael
Click to expand...
 
"Martin Riddle" <martinriddle@hotmail.com> wrote in news:R7Sqc.15341
$zO3.11926@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:

POMONA Micro SMD grabber
Click to expand...
Correct me if I'm wrong - but isn't that just for connecting to single
pins? I guess I wasn't clear about this - I need to connect to the entire
chip - and it needs to be fairly quick, easy, and painless (and without any
room for errors like having pins shorted)

The test clip I linked to seems perfect - except for the price...

-Michael
 
"Michael" <nleahcimathotmaildotcom@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94EEA928F82F2nleahcim@204.127.199.17...
"Martin Riddle" <martinriddle@hotmail.com> wrote in news:R7Sqc.15341
$zO3.11926@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:

POMONA Micro SMD grabber


Correct me if I'm wrong - but isn't that just for connecting to single
pins? I guess I wasn't clear about this - I need to connect to the entire
chip - and it needs to be fairly quick, easy, and painless (and without
any
room for errors like having pins shorted)

The test clip I linked to seems perfect - except for the price...

-Michael
Click to expand...
I think you are talking about an SM version of a DIPClip. These things are
unreliable enough, that I would go for the $200 one.

Tam
 
"Tam/WB2TT" <t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote in
news:r4ydnbzfaIAcLTHdRVn-tw@comcast.com:

"Michael" <nleahcimathotmaildotcom@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94EEA928F82F2nleahcim@204.127.199.17...
"Martin Riddle" <martinriddle@hotmail.com> wrote in news:R7Sqc.15341
$zO3.11926@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:

POMONA Micro SMD grabber


Correct me if I'm wrong - but isn't that just for connecting to
single pins? I guess I wasn't clear about this - I need to connect to
the entire chip - and it needs to be fairly quick, easy, and painless
(and without
any
room for errors like having pins shorted)

The test clip I linked to seems perfect - except for the price...

-Michael

I think you are talking about an SM version of a DIPClip. These things
are unreliable enough, that I would go for the $200 one.

Tam
Click to expand...
What exactly do you mean by unreliable? Do they fail? Or do they just not
make good contact? Surely there's something out there that isn't so
expensive?

Michael
 
"Michael" <nleahcimathotmaildotcom@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94F08D15F317Enleahcim@204.127.199.17...
"Tam/WB2TT" <t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote in
news:r4ydnbzfaIAcLTHdRVn-tw@comcast.com:


"Michael" <nleahcimathotmaildotcom@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94EEA928F82F2nleahcim@204.127.199.17...
"Martin Riddle" <martinriddle@hotmail.com> wrote in news:R7Sqc.15341
$zO3.11926@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:

POMONA Micro SMD grabber


Correct me if I'm wrong - but isn't that just for connecting to
single pins? I guess I wasn't clear about this - I need to connect to
the entire chip - and it needs to be fairly quick, easy, and painless
(and without
any
room for errors like having pins shorted)

The test clip I linked to seems perfect - except for the price...

-Michael

I think you are talking about an SM version of a DIPClip. These things
are unreliable enough, that I would go for the $200 one.

Tam




What exactly do you mean by unreliable? Do they fail? Or do they just not
make good contact? Surely there's something out there that isn't so
expensive?

Michael
Click to expand...
You are trying to connect to all 40 pins at the same time, right? I have had
enough trouble getting even 14 pin SM clips to make good contact (20 pin
seem OK, because the chip is bigger), and the TSOP pins are awful close
together. They also have a tendency to come flying off.

Tam
 
"Tam/WB2TT" <t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote in
news:466dnbzaeaUMGjPdRVn-gQ@comcast.com:

"Michael" <nleahcimathotmaildotcom@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94F08D15F317Enleahcim@204.127.199.17...
"Tam/WB2TT" <t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote in
news:r4ydnbzfaIAcLTHdRVn-tw@comcast.com:


"Michael" <nleahcimathotmaildotcom@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94EEA928F82F2nleahcim@204.127.199.17...
"Martin Riddle" <martinriddle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:R7Sqc.15341 $zO3.11926@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:

POMONA Micro SMD grabber


Correct me if I'm wrong - but isn't that just for connecting to
single pins? I guess I wasn't clear about this - I need to connect
to the entire chip - and it needs to be fairly quick, easy, and
painless (and without
any
room for errors like having pins shorted)

The test clip I linked to seems perfect - except for the price...

-Michael

I think you are talking about an SM version of a DIPClip. These
things are unreliable enough, that I would go for the $200 one.

Tam




What exactly do you mean by unreliable? Do they fail? Or do they just
not make good contact? Surely there's something out there that isn't
so expensive?

Michael

You are trying to connect to all 40 pins at the same time, right? I
have had enough trouble getting even 14 pin SM clips to make good
contact (20 pin seem OK, because the chip is bigger), and the TSOP
pins are awful close together. They also have a tendency to come
flying off.

Tam
Click to expand...
Yes all 40 pins. It won't be anything like a permanent connection though -
I just need it to be connected long enough to flash the chip. So the test
clip I linked to is pretty much the best solution?

Michael
 
"Michael" <nleahcimathotmaildotcom@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Tam/WB2TT" <t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote in
news:466dnbzaeaUMGjPdRVn-gQ@comcast.com:


"Michael" <nleahcimathotmaildotcom@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94F08D15F317Enleahcim@204.127.199.17...
"Tam/WB2TT" <t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote in
news:r4ydnbzfaIAcLTHdRVn-tw@comcast.com:


"Michael" <nleahcimathotmaildotcom@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94EEA928F82F2nleahcim@204.127.199.17...
"Martin Riddle" <martinriddle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:R7Sqc.15341 $zO3.11926@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:

POMONA Micro SMD grabber


Correct me if I'm wrong - but isn't that just for connecting to
single pins? I guess I wasn't clear about this - I need to connect
to the entire chip - and it needs to be fairly quick, easy, and
painless (and without
any
room for errors like having pins shorted)

The test clip I linked to seems perfect - except for the price...

-Michael

I think you are talking about an SM version of a DIPClip. These
things are unreliable enough, that I would go for the $200 one.

Tam




What exactly do you mean by unreliable? Do they fail? Or do they just
not make good contact? Surely there's something out there that isn't
so expensive?

Michael

You are trying to connect to all 40 pins at the same time, right? I
have had enough trouble getting even 14 pin SM clips to make good
contact (20 pin seem OK, because the chip is bigger), and the TSOP
pins are awful close together. They also have a tendency to come
flying off.

Tam




Yes all 40 pins. It won't be anything like a permanent connection though -
I just need it to be connected long enough to flash the chip. So the test
clip I linked to is pretty much the best solution?

Michael
Click to expand...
I am still not sure what you want to do. The page you reference won't come
up. When I look at other TSOP test clips at the Emulation Technologies web
site, I can't tell how they work. Is the TSOP soldered down on the board
when you do this, or are you really looking for a socket? In general, these
kind of things can get expensive. We were paying $2000 for 68340 adapters.

Tam
 
"Tam/WB2TT" <t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote in
news:WvmdnbpXfIZqwTLd4p2dnA@comcast.com:

"Michael" <nleahcimathotmaildotcom@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94F0D03DF535Bnleahcim@63.240.76.16...
"Tam/WB2TT" <t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote in
news:466dnbzaeaUMGjPdRVn-gQ@comcast.com:


"Michael" <nleahcimathotmaildotcom@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94F08D15F317Enleahcim@204.127.199.17...
"Tam/WB2TT" <t-tammaru@c0mca$t.net> wrote in
news:r4ydnbzfaIAcLTHdRVn-tw@comcast.com:


"Michael" <nleahcimathotmaildotcom@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94EEA928F82F2nleahcim@204.127.199.17...
"Martin Riddle" <martinriddle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:R7Sqc.15341 $zO3.11926@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:

POMONA Micro SMD grabber


Correct me if I'm wrong - but isn't that just for connecting to
single pins? I guess I wasn't clear about this - I need to
connect to the entire chip - and it needs to be fairly quick,
easy, and painless (and without
any
room for errors like having pins shorted)

The test clip I linked to seems perfect - except for the
price...

-Michael

I think you are talking about an SM version of a DIPClip. These
things are unreliable enough, that I would go for the $200 one.

Tam




What exactly do you mean by unreliable? Do they fail? Or do they
just not make good contact? Surely there's something out there
that isn't so expensive?

Michael

You are trying to connect to all 40 pins at the same time, right? I
have had enough trouble getting even 14 pin SM clips to make good
contact (20 pin seem OK, because the chip is bigger), and the TSOP
pins are awful close together. They also have a tendency to come
flying off.

Tam




Yes all 40 pins. It won't be anything like a permanent connection
though - I just need it to be connected long enough to flash the
chip. So the test clip I linked to is pretty much the best solution?

Michael

I am still not sure what you want to do. The page you reference won't
come up. When I look at other TSOP test clips at the Emulation
Technologies web site, I can't tell how they work. Is the TSOP
soldered down on the board when you do this, or are you really looking
for a socket? In general, these kind of things can get expensive. We
were paying $2000 for 68340 adapters.

Tam
Click to expand...
We need to be able to flash a TSOP chip that is already soldered onto
boards. So no need for a socket. Here's the link again:
http://www.emulation.com/catalog/off-the-
shelf_solutions/debugging_accessories/test_clips/tsop_test_clips/
I think maybe word wrap is making it unclickable? I don't really know
how to fix that. But essentially it clips onto the entire TSOP chip. Of
course I've never seen one of these used in person (and somehow I doubt
they'll send us a sample!) so I can't testify to how good they are at
this - though I've heard a couple success stories about them. Thanks,

-Michael
 
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