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Reply from a guy I know who used to design the Bosch PCB's:I have a Bosch Solution alarm "Ultima 880"
To go into my daughters house.
From what I have read, to get 8 sectors out of it,
you need to use "Split EOL resistors" 3k3 & 6k8 1%
Am I correct?
Any hints for install?
Thanks ....Ian
Good idea, a week without sirens, just a matter of convincing theOn Nov 26, 9:53 am, Ian <mac25...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I have a Bosch Solution alarm "Ultima 880"
To go into my daughters house.
From what I have read, to get 8 sectors out of it,
you need to use "Split EOL resistors" 3k3 & 6k8 1%
Am I correct?
Any hints for install?
Thanks ....Ian
Reply from a guy I know who used to design the Bosch PCB's:
"Yep, 3K3 and 6K8,
Ensure that the siren run time is changed from 5 mins to 2 mins (which
is heaps) and also Lockout Siren and Dialler in options....also the
PIR
should be dualtech, DS835 or similar from Bosch....if they arent
microwave and PIR, then use pulse count on zones.... Run the system
for
a week without sirens connected, this ensures there wont be false
alarms
pissing off the neighbours.....people disregard a siren if it goes off
too many times....idea
Locking out siren will only allow the siren to go off once on the
sector, if someone goes into the house and trips another sector, it
will
go off again.....bosch has a thing called smart lockout....ensure that
is set..."
Dave.
Thanks a lot Dave most appreciated.
It supposedly hasOn Nov 26, 9:53 am, Ian <mac25...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I have a Bosch Solution alarm "Ultima 880"
To go into my daughters house.
From what I have read, to get 8 sectors out of it,
you need to use "Split EOL resistors" 3k3 & 6k8 1%
Am I correct?
Any hints for install?
Thanks ....Ian
Reply from a guy I know who used to design the Bosch PCB's:
"Yep, 3K3 and 6K8,
Ensure that the siren run time is changed from 5 mins to 2 mins (which
is heaps) and also Lockout Siren and Dialler in options....also the
PIR
should be dualtech, DS835 or similar from Bosch....if they arent
microwave and PIR, then use pulse count on zones.... Run the system
for
a week without sirens connected, this ensures there wont be false
alarms
pissing off the neighbours.....people disregard a siren if it goes off
too many times....
Locking out siren will only allow the siren to go off once on the
sector, if someone goes into the house and trips another sector, it
will
go off again.....bosch has a thing called smart lockout....ensure that
is set..."
Dave.
Have another question re 880
As she should , you placing cable without a permit places you subject toOn Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:25:35 -0800 (PST), "David L. Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 9:53 am, Ian <mac25...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I have a Bosch Solution alarm "Ultima 880"
To go into my daughters house.
From what I have read, to get 8 sectors out of it,
you need to use "Split EOL resistors" 3k3 & 6k8 1%
Am I correct?
Any hints for install?
Thanks ....Ian
Reply from a guy I know who used to design the Bosch PCB's:
"Yep, 3K3 and 6K8,
Ensure that the siren run time is changed from 5 mins to 2 mins (which
is heaps) and also Lockout Siren and Dialler in options....also the
PIR
should be dualtech, DS835 or similar from Bosch....if they arent
microwave and PIR, then use pulse count on zones.... Run the system
for
a week without sirens connected, this ensures there wont be false
alarms
pissing off the neighbours.....people disregard a siren if it goes off
too many times....
Locking out siren will only allow the siren to go off once on the
sector, if someone goes into the house and trips another sector, it
will
go off again.....bosch has a thing called smart lockout....ensure that
is set..."
Dave.
Have another question re 880
It supposedly has
4x burglary zones (1-4) 3k3 on delay
and
4x 24 hour zones (5-8) 6k8 on Instant(tamper)
Have 6 x PIR's for in house
Can I make those 24 hour zones be on delay
or do i double up PIR's on the 4 burg zones.
I did try to convince my daughter to get
it installed professionally.
Any help appreciated ...Ian
Any help appreciated ...Ian
hire a cabler
Absolutely correct atec77.Ian wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:25:35 -0800 (PST), "David L. Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 9:53 am, Ian <mac25...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I have a Bosch Solution alarm "Ultima 880"
To go into my daughters house.
From what I have read, to get 8 sectors out of it,
you need to use "Split EOL resistors" 3k3 & 6k8 1%
Am I correct?
Any hints for install?
Thanks ....Ian
Reply from a guy I know who used to design the Bosch PCB's:
"Yep, 3K3 and 6K8,
Ensure that the siren run time is changed from 5 mins to 2 mins (which
is heaps) and also Lockout Siren and Dialler in options....also the
PIR
should be dualtech, DS835 or similar from Bosch....if they arent
microwave and PIR, then use pulse count on zones.... Run the system
for
a week without sirens connected, this ensures there wont be false
alarms
pissing off the neighbours.....people disregard a siren if it goes off
too many times....
Locking out siren will only allow the siren to go off once on the
sector, if someone goes into the house and trips another sector, it
will
go off again.....bosch has a thing called smart lockout....ensure that
is set..."
Dave.
Have another question re 880
It supposedly has
4x burglary zones (1-4) 3k3 on delay
and 4x 24 hour zones (5-8) 6k8 on
Instant(tamper)
Have 6 x PIR's for in house
Can I make those 24 hour zones be on delay
or do i double up PIR's on the 4 burg zones.
I did try to convince my daughter to get
it installed professionally.
As she should , you placing cable without a permit places you subject to
several nasty rulings and high possible fines...
( anyone going to put you in?
0
Any help appreciated ...Ian
Any help appreciated ...Ian
hire a cabler
"atec77" <atec77REM...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ggptus$oid$1@aioe.org...
Ian wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:25:35 -0800 (PST), "David L. Jones"
altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 9:53 am, Ian <mac25...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I have a Bosch Solution alarm "Ultima 880"
To go into my daughters house.
From what I have read, to get 8 sectors out of it,
you need to use "Split EOL resistors" 3k3 & 6k8 1%
Am I correct?
Any hints for install?
Thanks ....Ian
Reply from a guy I know who used to design the Bosch PCB's:
"Yep, 3K3 and 6K8,
Ensure that the siren run time is changed from 5 mins to 2 mins (which
is heaps) and also Lockout Siren and Dialler in options....also the
PIR
should be dualtech, DS835 or similar from Bosch....if they arent
microwave and PIR, then use pulse count on zones.... Run the system
for
a week without sirens connected, this ensures there wont be false
alarms
pissing off the neighbours.....people disregard a siren if it goes off
too many times....
Locking out siren will only allow the siren to go off once on the
sector, if someone goes into the house and trips another sector, it
will
go off again.....bosch has a thing called smart lockout....ensure that
is set..."
Dave.
Have another question re 880
It supposedly has
4x burglary zones (1-4) 3k3 on delay
and 4x 24 hour zones (5-8) 6k8 on
Instant(tamper)
Have 6 x PIR's for in house
Can I make those 24 hour zones be on delay
or do i double up PIR's on the 4 burg zones.
I did try to convince my daughter to get
it installed professionally.
As she should , you placing cable without a permit places you subject to
several nasty rulings and high possible fines...
( anyone going to put you in?
0
Any help appreciated ...Ian
Any help appreciated ...Ian
hire a cabler
Absolutely correct atec77.
Albeit you don't need to be a rocket scientist to do this there are many
safety aspects of the installation which need to be considered in how the
cabling is provisioned.
Unfortunately there are still a lot of alarm installers out there who don't
realise they have to be registered appropriately Cablers to do this work or
alternatively be supervised at ALL times whilst the work is being done by a
Cabler who holds the appropriate level of registration. A TCA form must be
completed for all new cabling work. The completion of a TCA form isn't
necessary for replacing equipment, sensors or jumpering of new connections
on distributors.
There are hefty fines for DIY telecommunications cabling if you get found
out.
The ACMA website has details -http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/HOMEPAGE/PC=HOME
A free copy of the regulations cab be downloaded from -http://www.commsalliance.com.au/__data/page/15836/S009_2006r.pdf
Cheers,
Alan
daughters house. Her brother in law is a licenced installer.On Nov 29, 12:50 pm, "Alan Rutlidge"
don't_spam_me_rutli...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
"atec77" <atec77REM...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ggptus$oid$1@aioe.org...
Ian wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:25:35 -0800 (PST), "David L. Jones"
altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 9:53 am, Ian <mac25...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I have a Bosch Solution alarm "Ultima 880"
To go into my daughters house.
From what I have read, to get 8 sectors out of it,
you need to use "Split EOL resistors" 3k3 & 6k8 1%
Am I correct?
Any hints for install?
Thanks ....Ian
Reply from a guy I know who used to design the Bosch PCB's:
"Yep, 3K3 and 6K8,
Ensure that the siren run time is changed from 5 mins to 2 mins (which
is heaps) and also Lockout Siren and Dialler in options....also the
PIR
should be dualtech, DS835 or similar from Bosch....if they arent
microwave and PIR, then use pulse count on zones.... Run the system
for
a week without sirens connected, this ensures there wont be false
alarms
pissing off the neighbours.....people disregard a siren if it goes off
too many times....
Locking out siren will only allow the siren to go off once on the
sector, if someone goes into the house and trips another sector, it
will
go off again.....bosch has a thing called smart lockout....ensure that
is set..."
Dave.
Have another question re 880
It supposedly has
4x burglary zones (1-4) 3k3 on delay
and 4x 24 hour zones (5-8) 6k8 on
Instant(tamper)
Have 6 x PIR's for in house
Can I make those 24 hour zones be on delay
or do i double up PIR's on the 4 burg zones.
I did try to convince my daughter to get
it installed professionally.
As she should , you placing cable without a permit places you subject to
several nasty rulings and high possible fines...
( anyone going to put you in?
0
Any help appreciated ...Ian
Any help appreciated ...Ian
hire a cabler
Absolutely correct atec77.
Albeit you don't need to be a rocket scientist to do this there are many
safety aspects of the installation which need to be considered in how the
cabling is provisioned.
Unfortunately there are still a lot of alarm installers out there who don't
realise they have to be registered appropriately Cablers to do this work or
alternatively be supervised at ALL times whilst the work is being done by a
Cabler who holds the appropriate level of registration. A TCA form must be
completed for all new cabling work. The completion of a TCA form isn't
necessary for replacing equipment, sensors or jumpering of new connections
on distributors.
There are hefty fines for DIY telecommunications cabling if you get found
out.
The ACMA website has details -http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/HOMEPAGE/PC=HOME
A free copy of the regulations cab be downloaded from -http://www.commsalliance.com.au/__data/page/15836/S009_2006r.pdf
Cheers,
Alan
I'm pretty sure you need a licence - including police check to do just
about any sort of wiring in a building these days. One reason is risk
is of dishonest people tampering with existing wiring in there to
disable cameras, alarms or god knows what else to assist robberies of
the place etc.
However, people dont seem to give a stuff anymore. When we went to a
local bar for a work function, there was an unlicensed "electrician"
doing a substantial rewire of the building, including replacing the
fusebox. This work had been going on for days. I went back a week
later just to look, and saw he had even been installing smoke alarms
(linked 240v system).
I originally got suspicious after seeing him re-using runs of old (the
jacket had yellowed and looked pretty shithouse condition with nicks
etc.) 3.5mm sq twin and to connect a new 415v a sub board that he was
putting in a DJ booth.
He also had bundles (enough to fill a small box trailer) of old cable
in various lengths that he was using where possible.
After asking around found this bloke had no license, no idea, and
somehow kept getting away with it. He had caught several builders
too, after doing the work and getting paid, was asked to sign off on
it and freely admitted being unlicensed. What the builders did about
this is unknown.
At no stage did I say I was going to install an alarm at my
"atec77" <atec77REM...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ggptus$oid$1@aioe.org...
Ian wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:25:35 -0800 (PST), "David L. Jones"
altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 9:53 am, Ian <mac25...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I have a Bosch Solution alarm "Ultima 880"
To go into my daughters house.
From what I have read, to get 8 sectors out of it,
you need to use "Split EOL resistors" 3k3 & 6k8 1%
Am I correct?
Any hints for install?
Thanks ....Ian
Reply from a guy I know who used to design the Bosch PCB's:
"Yep, 3K3 and 6K8,
Ensure that the siren run time is changed from 5 mins to 2 mins (which
is heaps) and also Lockout Siren and Dialler in options....also the
PIR
should be dualtech, DS835 or similar from Bosch....if they arent
microwave and PIR, then use pulse count on zones.... Run the system
for
a week without sirens connected, this ensures there wont be false
alarms
pissing off the neighbours.....people disregard a siren if it goes off
too many times....
Locking out siren will only allow the siren to go off once on the
sector, if someone goes into the house and trips another sector, it
will
go off again.....bosch has a thing called smart lockout....ensure that
is set..."
Dave.
Have another question re 880
It supposedly has
4x burglary zones (1-4) 3k3 on delay
and 4x 24 hour zones (5-8) 6k8 on
Instant(tamper)
Have 6 x PIR's for in house
Can I make those 24 hour zones be on delay
or do i double up PIR's on the 4 burg zones.
I did try to convince my daughter to get
it installed professionally.
As she should , you placing cable without a permit places you subject to
several nasty rulings and high possible fines...
( anyone going to put you in?
0
Any help appreciated ...Ian
Any help appreciated ...Ian
hire a cabler
Absolutely correct atec77.
Albeit you don't need to be a rocket scientist to do this there are many
safety aspects of the installation which need to be considered in how the
cabling is provisioned.
Unfortunately there are still a lot of alarm installers out there who
don't
realise they have to be registered appropriately Cablers to do this work
or
alternatively be supervised at ALL times whilst the work is being done by
a
Cabler who holds the appropriate level of registration. A TCA form must be
completed for all new cabling work. The completion of a TCA form isn't
necessary for replacing equipment, sensors or jumpering of new connections
on distributors.
There are hefty fines for DIY telecommunications cabling if you get found
out.
The ACMA website has details -http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/HOMEPAGE/PC=HOME
A free copy of the regulations cab be downloaded
from -http://www.commsalliance.com.au/__data/page/15836/S009_2006r.pdf
Cheers,
Alan
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:30:23 -0800 (PST), kreed
At no stage did I say I was going to install an alarm at my
daughters house. Her brother in law is a licenced installer.
The question were for my own benifit.
the only alarm I have installed is my own nearly 10 yrs ago,
and I intend to keep it that way.
...Ian
Pleased to hear it as the financial risks these days are very prohibitive.
call the sparky back as he failed to provide conditions in the roof"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
This is just the sort of thing the industries don't need.
The unsuspecting consumer probably doesn't realise that if substandard
wiring, performed by an unlicenced tradie is found to be responsible for
burning down their premises or electrocuting some poor bugger, their insurer
most likely won't cough up on a claim and they could be leaving themselves
wide open to litigation in the event of a compensation claim.
The same applies to telecommunications cabling. if the 240v mains finds its
way to the telephone cabling, some poor baggy arsed linesman working at a
pillar or running a jumper at the exchange could get zapped. Not to mention
the telco coming after you for frying their equipment.
We recently has some electrical work done on site and I was forced to
authorities ?On Nov 29, 12:50 pm, "Alan Rutlidge"
After asking around found this bloke had no license, no idea, and
somehow kept getting away with it. He had caught several builders
too, after doing the work and getting paid, was asked to sign off on
it and freely admitted being unlicensed. What the builders did about
this is unknown.
Have you considered informing his client and making a complaint to the
Reply from my friend:On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:25:35 -0800 (PST), "David L. Jones"
altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 9:53 am, Ian <mac25...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I have a Bosch Solution alarm "Ultima 880"
To go into my daughters house.
From what I have read, to get 8 sectors out of it,
you need to use "Split EOL resistors" 3k3 & 6k8 1%
Am I correct?
Any hints for install?
Thanks ....Ian
Reply from a guy I know who used to design the Bosch PCB's:
"Yep, 3K3 and 6K8,
Ensure that the siren run time is changed from 5 mins to 2 mins (which
is heaps) and also Lockout Siren and Dialler in options....also the
PIR
should be dualtech, DS835 or similar from Bosch....if they arent
microwave and PIR, then use pulse count on zones.... Run the system
for
a week without sirens connected, this ensures there wont be false
alarms
pissing off the neighbours.....people disregard a siren if it goes off
too many times....
Locking out siren will only allow the siren to go off once on the
sector, if someone goes into the house and trips another sector, it
will
go off again.....bosch has a thing called smart lockout....ensure that
is set..."
Dave.
Have another question re 880
It supposedly has
4x burglary zones (1-4) 3k3 on delay
and
4x 24 hour zones (5-8) 6k8 on Instant(tamper)
Have 6 x PIR's for in house
Can I make those 24 hour zones be on delay
or do i double up PIR's on the 4 burg zones.
I did try to convince my daughter to get
it installed professionally.
Any help appreciated ...Ian
its been tried by others, and he still keeps going.kreed wrote:
On Nov 29, 12:50 pm, "Alan Rutlidge"
After asking around found this bloke had no license, no idea, and
somehow kept getting away with it. He had caught several builders
too, after doing the work and getting paid, was asked to sign off on
it and freely admitted being unlicensed. What the builders did about
this is unknown.
Have you considered informing his client and making a complaint to the
authorities ?
Thanks Dave,On Nov 29, 9:10 am, Ian <mac25...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:25:35 -0800 (PST), "David L. Jones"
altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 9:53 am, Ian <mac25...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I have a Bosch Solution alarm "Ultima 880"
To go into my daughters house.
From what I have read, to get 8 sectors out of it,
you need to use "Split EOL resistors" 3k3 & 6k8 1%
Am I correct?
Any hints for install?
Thanks ....Ian
Reply from a guy I know who used to design the Bosch PCB's:
"Yep, 3K3 and 6K8,
Ensure that the siren run time is changed from 5 mins to 2 mins (which
is heaps) and also Lockout Siren and Dialler in options....also the
PIR
should be dualtech, DS835 or similar from Bosch....if they arent
microwave and PIR, then use pulse count on zones.... Run the system
for
a week without sirens connected, this ensures there wont be false
alarms
pissing off the neighbours.....people disregard a siren if it goes off
too many times....
Locking out siren will only allow the siren to go off once on the
sector, if someone goes into the house and trips another sector, it
will
go off again.....bosch has a thing called smart lockout....ensure that
is set..."
Dave.
Have another question re 880
It supposedly has
4x burglary zones (1-4) 3k3 on delay
and
4x 24 hour zones (5-8) 6k8 on Instant(tamper)
Have 6 x PIR's for in house
Can I make those 24 hour zones be on delay
or do i double up PIR's on the 4 burg zones.
I did try to convince my daughter to get
it installed professionally.
Any help appreciated ...Ian
Reply from my friend:
"its an 880, so the zone type should be changed from 24hr to
instant....page 10 should help.....if they arent zone type 0, then
they
need to be programmed as zone type 0....."
And a question:
"Can you ask the guy where/how he purchased the system.....just
interested to know...."
Quick Ref guide is here:
http://www.alternatezone.com/files/880%20quick%20ref.pdf
Dave.