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https://youtube.com/shorts/a8ClPeL9-A4?feature=share
Expert soldering lol!
Not quite as bad as holding the iron by the hot bit, but almost.
https://youtube.com/shorts/a8ClPeL9-A4?feature=share
Expert soldering lol!
Tabby wrote:
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https://youtube.com/shorts/a8ClPeL9-A4?feature=share
Expert soldering lol!
** If there is any doubt, this is how it is normally and long been done:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9X0RIjJmgJo
FYI Such soldered joints have a limited life span, then leak.
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:19:57?AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:
Tabby wrote:
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https://youtube.com/shorts/a8ClPeL9-A4?feature=share
Expert soldering lol!
** If there is any doubt, this is how it is normally and long been done:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9X0RIjJmgJo
FYI Such soldered joints have a limited life span, then leak.
Not in normal-pH-water places, they don\'t! The old tin/lead solder
doesn\'t dissolve (skins over after a day or two in contact with water)
and unlike polymer plumbing elements, the brass/bronze/copper
metal parts don\'t age badly.
The only thing the video doesn\'t show, is the care to get
the heaviest part of the joint up to heat, and the amount of
solder applied to the joint (about a length of 0.125\" wire equal to
the pipe diameter) to fill the gap between mating surfaces.
Silver brazing is now the far preferred and often mandated way.
... for refrigeration or compressor tubing, yes; house water pressure, though, doesn\'t
require that strength.
On Sat, 27 May 2023 08:28:21 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:19:57?AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:
Tabby wrote:
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https://youtube.com/shorts/a8ClPeL9-A4?feature=share
Expert soldering lol!
** If there is any doubt, this is how it is normally and long been done:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9X0RIjJmgJo
FYI Such soldered joints have a limited life span, then leak.
Not in normal-pH-water places, they don\'t! The old tin/lead solder
doesn\'t dissolve (skins over after a day or two in contact with water)
and unlike polymer plumbing elements, the brass/bronze/copper
metal parts don\'t age badly.
The only thing the video doesn\'t show, is the care to get
the heaviest part of the joint up to heat, and the amount of
solder applied to the joint (about a length of 0.125\" wire equal to
the pipe diameter) to fill the gap between mating surfaces.
Silver brazing is now the far preferred and often mandated way.
... for refrigeration or compressor tubing, yes; house water pressure, though, doesn\'t
require that strength.
Lead-free solder and a propane torch works fine on copper pipes.
63/37 electronic solder works even better, and the lead poisoning
hazard is remote if the water isn\'t acidic. Our water is from the
mountains, naturally a bit acidic, so it\'s run over some limestone to
protect the pipes and not leach lead from solder or brass.
Lead-free solder and a propane torch works fine on copper pipes.
63/37 electronic solder works even better, and the lead poisoning
hazard is remote if the water isn\'t acidic. Our water is from the
mountains, naturally a bit acidic, so it\'s run over some limestone to
protect the pipes and not leach lead from solder or brass.
If some is good, then more is better and too much is just enough.
If lead free works fine, then why bother with what *you* think is \"better\"?
Tricky Ricky wrote:
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JL wrote:
Lead-free solder and a propane torch works fine on copper pipes.
63/37 electronic solder works even better, and the lead poisoning
hazard is remote if the water isn\'t acidic. Our water is from the
mountains, naturally a bit acidic, so it\'s run over some limestone to
protect the pipes and not leach lead from solder or brass.
If some is good, then more is better and too much is just enough.
If lead free works fine, then why bother with what *you* think is \"better\"?
** 97% tin, 3% copper solder, as used for plumbing, is way more expensive - tin is over 10 times the cost of lead.
It also has a higher melting point by 45 degrees C.
Tricky Ricky wrote:
----------------------------
JL wrote:
Lead-free solder and a propane torch works fine on copper pipes.
63/37 electronic solder works even better, and the lead poisoning
hazard is remote if the water isn\'t acidic. Our water is from the
mountains, naturally a bit acidic, so it\'s run over some limestone to
protect the pipes and not leach lead from solder or brass.
If some is good, then more is better and too much is just enough.
If lead free works fine, then why bother with what *you* think is \"better\"?
** 97% tin, 3% copper solder, as used for plumbing, is way more expensive - tin is over 10 times the cost of lead.
It also has a higher melting point by 45 degrees C.
You post facts, but draw no conclusions.
As to your temperature comment, I repeat my question: If lead free works fine...?
Ricky wrote:
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Phil Allison wrote:
Tricky Ricky wrote:
----------------------------
JL wrote:
Lead-free solder and a propane torch works fine on copper pipes.
63/37 electronic solder works even better, and the lead poisoning
hazard is remote if the water isn\'t acidic. Our water is from the
mountains, naturally a bit acidic, so it\'s run over some limestone to
protect the pipes and not leach lead from solder or brass.
If some is good, then more is better and too much is just enough.
If lead free works fine, then why bother with what *you* think is \"better\"?
** 97% tin, 3% copper solder, as used for plumbing, is way more expensive - tin is over 10 times the cost of lead.
It also has a higher melting point by 45 degrees C.
You post facts, but draw no conclusions.
** I answered your smug \"why bother\" Q with two valid reasons.
Are you saying the cost of solder is in any way significant when installing plumbing?
** If you have only a couple of bad joints to fix and 63/37 on hand - then yes.
As to your temperature comment, I repeat my question: If lead free works fine...?
** There IS more than one way to remove the skin from a feline....
If lead free works fine, then why bother with what *you* think is \"better\"?
** 97% tin, 3% copper solder, as used for plumbing, is way more expensive - tin is over 10 times the cost of lead.
It also has a higher melting point by 45 degrees C.
You post facts, but draw no conclusions.
** I answered your smug \"why bother\" Q with two valid reasons.
That\'s the point. You didn\'t give any \"valid\" reasons, because you explained nothing.
You did a Larkin, where you provide some detailed fact, which you expect is self explanatory.
In reality, they were neither self explanatory, nor valid reasons.
Are you saying the cost of solder is in any way significant when installing plumbing?
** If you have only a couple of bad joints to fix and 63/37 on hand - then yes.
Sorry, $0.10 vs $0.01 is not significant.
A 500gm reel of Sn/Cu solder can cost you as much as $100.
Which will last for many thousands of dollars worth of copper pipe.
As to your temperature comment, I repeat my question: If lead free works fine...?
** There IS more than one way to remove the skin from a feline....
Which is still not an explanation.
Retarded Ricky wrote:
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If lead free works fine, then why bother with what *you* think is \"better\"?
** 97% tin, 3% copper solder, as used for plumbing, is way more expensive - tin is over 10 times the cost of lead.
It also has a higher melting point by 45 degrees C.
You post facts, but draw no conclusions.
** I answered your smug \"why bother\" Q with two valid reasons.
That\'s the point. You didn\'t give any \"valid\" reasons, because you explained nothing.
You did a Larkin, where you provide some detailed fact, which you expect is self explanatory.
In reality, they were neither self explanatory, nor valid reasons.
Are you saying the cost of solder is in any way significant when installing plumbing?
** If you have only a couple of bad joints to fix and 63/37 on hand - then yes.
Sorry, $0.10 vs $0.01 is not significant.
** ROTFL !
A 500gm reel of Sn/Cu solder can cost you as much as $100.
Which will last for many thousands of dollars worth of copper pipe.
** ROTFL !!!
So, still not significant. If you can\'t afford the solder, you surely can\'t afford the copper.
** Stop it - my sides are hurting !
As to your temperature comment, I repeat my question: If lead free works fine...?
** There IS more than one way to remove the skin from a feline....
Which is still not an explanation.
** There was nothing to explain - you smug, retarded NUT CASE !!
This is classic Phil.
** ROTFLMAO !!
Yep - I sure as hell know when I\'m dealing with a raving lunatic.
The only real difference from Larkin,
** There are many, great big ones.
All of them forever incomprehensible to a rabid, autistic, ADHD fucked, narcissistic fool like YOU.
..... love, Phil
Retarded Ricky wrote:
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If lead free works fine, then why bother with what *you* think is \"better\"?
** 97% tin, 3% copper solder, as used for plumbing, is way more expensive - tin is over 10 times the cost of lead.
It also has a higher melting point by 45 degrees C.
You post facts, but draw no conclusions.
** I answered your smug \"why bother\" Q with two valid reasons.
That\'s the point. You didn\'t give any \"valid\" reasons, because you explained nothing.
You did a Larkin, where you provide some detailed fact, which you expect is self explanatory.
In reality, they were neither self explanatory, nor valid reasons.
Are you saying the cost of solder is in any way significant when installing plumbing?
** If you have only a couple of bad joints to fix and 63/37 on hand - then yes.
Sorry, $0.10 vs $0.01 is not significant.
** ROTFL !
A 500gm reel of Sn/Cu solder can cost you as much as $100.
Which will last for many thousands of dollars worth of copper pipe.
** ROTFL !!!
So, still not significant. If you can\'t afford the solder, you surely can\'t afford the copper.
** Stop it - my sides are hurting !
As to your temperature comment, I repeat my question: If lead free works fine...?
** There IS more than one way to remove the skin from a feline....
Which is still not an explanation.
** There was nothing to explain - you smug, retarded NUT CASE !!
This is classic Phil.
** ROTFLMAO !!
Yep - I sure as hell know when I\'m dealing with a raving lunatic.
The only real difference from Larkin,
** There are many, great big ones.
All of them forever incomprehensible to a rabid, autistic, ADHD fucked, narcissistic fool like YOU.
..... love, Phil
On Sun, 28 May 2023 04:32:04 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
palli...@gmail.com> wrote:
Retarded Ricky wrote:
** 97% tin, 3% copper solder, as used for plumbing, is way more expensive - tin is over 10 times the cost of lead.
It also has a higher melting point by 45 degrees C.
A 500gm reel of Sn/Cu solder can cost you as much as $100.
Which will last for many thousands of dollars worth of copper pipe.
63/37 electronic-type solder works beautifully on copper pipes, better
than the lead-free stuff. One should evaluate any possible lead hazard
of course. The risk is small for an occasional repair with alkaline
water. I don\'t mind a few PPT lead in my shower or car-wash water.
I used that solder because we had a lot of it.
Retarded Ricky wrote:
----------------------------------
If lead free works fine, then why bother with what *you* think is \"better\"?
** 97% tin, 3% copper solder, as used for plumbing, is way more expensive - tin is over 10 times the cost of lead.
It also has a higher melting point by 45 degrees C.
You post facts, but draw no conclusions.
** I answered your smug \"why bother\" Q with two valid reasons.
That\'s the point. You didn\'t give any \"valid\" reasons, because you explained nothing.
You did a Larkin, where you provide some detailed fact, which you expect is self explanatory.
In reality, they were neither self explanatory, nor valid reasons.
Are you saying the cost of solder is in any way significant when installing plumbing?
** If you have only a couple of bad joints to fix and 63/37 on hand - then yes.
Sorry, $0.10 vs $0.01 is not significant.
** ROTFL !
A 500gm reel of Sn/Cu solder can cost you as much as $100.
Which will last for many thousands of dollars worth of copper pipe.
** ROTFL !!!
So, still not significant. If you can\'t afford the solder, you surely can\'t afford the copper.
** Stop it - my sides are hurting !
As to your temperature comment, I repeat my question: If lead free works fine...?
** There IS more than one way to remove the skin from a feline....
Which is still not an explanation.
** There was nothing to explain - you smug, retarded NUT CASE !!
This is classic Phil.
** ROTFLMAO !!
Yep - I sure as hell know when I\'m dealing with a raving lunatic.
The only real difference from Larkin,
** There are many, great big ones.
All of them forever incomprehensible to a rabid, autistic, ADHD fucked, narcissistic fool like YOU.
I wonder if you or Ricky have actually ever soldered copper water
pipes.
63/37 electronic-type solder works beautifully on copper pipes, better
than the lead-free stuff.
One should evaluate any possible lead hazard
of course. The risk is small for an occasional repair with alkaline
water. I don\'t mind a few PPT lead in my shower or car-wash water.
I used that solder because we had a lot of it.
On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 7:32:08â¯AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:
Retarded Ricky wrote:
----------------------------------
If lead free works fine, then why bother with what *you* think is \"better\"?
** 97% tin, 3% copper solder, as used for plumbing, is way more expensive - tin is over 10 times the cost of lead.
It also has a higher melting point by 45 degrees C.
You post facts, but draw no conclusions.
** I answered your smug \"why bother\" Q with two valid reasons.
That\'s the point. You didn\'t give any \"valid\" reasons, because you explained nothing.
You did a Larkin, where you provide some detailed fact, which you expect is self explanatory.
In reality, they were neither self explanatory, nor valid reasons.
Are you saying the cost of solder is in any way significant when installing plumbing?
** If you have only a couple of bad joints to fix and 63/37 on hand - then yes.
Sorry, $0.10 vs $0.01 is not significant.
** ROTFL !
A 500gm reel of Sn/Cu solder can cost you as much as $100.
Which will last for many thousands of dollars worth of copper pipe.
** ROTFL !!!
So, still not significant. If you can\'t afford the solder, you surely can\'t afford the copper.
** Stop it - my sides are hurting !
As to your temperature comment, I repeat my question: If lead free works fine...?
** There IS more than one way to remove the skin from a feline....
Which is still not an explanation.
** There was nothing to explain - you smug, retarded NUT CASE !!
This is classic Phil.
** ROTFLMAO !!
Yep - I sure as hell know when I\'m dealing with a raving lunatic.
The only real difference from Larkin,
** There are many, great big ones.
All of them forever incomprehensible to a rabid, autistic, ADHD fucked, narcissistic fool like YOU.
..... love, Phil
This is closer to the Phil we all know. When you can\'t dispute the facts, you get silly and insulting. But not much in the way of profanities. Maybe you\'ve taken the pledge?
Love, Ricky
On 5/28/2023 6:40 AM, Ricky wrote:
On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 7:32:08?AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:
Retarded Ricky wrote:
----------------------------------
If lead free works fine, then why bother with what *you* think is \"better\"?
** 97% tin, 3% copper solder, as used for plumbing, is way more expensive - tin is over 10 times the cost of lead.
It also has a higher melting point by 45 degrees C.
You post facts, but draw no conclusions.
** I answered your smug \"why bother\" Q with two valid reasons.
That\'s the point. You didn\'t give any \"valid\" reasons, because you explained nothing.
You did a Larkin, where you provide some detailed fact, which you expect is self explanatory.
In reality, they were neither self explanatory, nor valid reasons.
Are you saying the cost of solder is in any way significant when installing plumbing?
** If you have only a couple of bad joints to fix and 63/37 on hand - then yes.
Sorry, $0.10 vs $0.01 is not significant.
** ROTFL !
A 500gm reel of Sn/Cu solder can cost you as much as $100.
Which will last for many thousands of dollars worth of copper pipe.
** ROTFL !!!
So, still not significant. If you can\'t afford the solder, you surely can\'t afford the copper.
** Stop it - my sides are hurting !
As to your temperature comment, I repeat my question: If lead free works fine...?
** There IS more than one way to remove the skin from a feline....
Which is still not an explanation.
** There was nothing to explain - you smug, retarded NUT CASE !!
This is classic Phil.
** ROTFLMAO !!
Yep - I sure as hell know when I\'m dealing with a raving lunatic.
The only real difference from Larkin,
** There are many, great big ones.
All of them forever incomprehensible to a rabid, autistic, ADHD fucked, narcissistic fool like YOU.
..... love, Phil
This is closer to the Phil we all know. When you can\'t dispute the facts, you get silly and insulting. But not much in the way of profanities. Maybe you\'ve taken the pledge?
Love, Ricky
You two get a room.
On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 16:36:49 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> wrote:
On 5/28/2023 6:40 AM, Ricky wrote:
On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 7:32:08?AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:
Retarded Ricky wrote:
----------------------------------
If lead free works fine, then why bother with what *you* think is \"better\"?
** 97% tin, 3% copper solder, as used for plumbing, is way more expensive - tin is over 10 times the cost of lead.
It also has a higher melting point by 45 degrees C.
You post facts, but draw no conclusions.
** I answered your smug \"why bother\" Q with two valid reasons.
That\'s the point. You didn\'t give any \"valid\" reasons, because you explained nothing.
You did a Larkin, where you provide some detailed fact, which you expect is self explanatory.
In reality, they were neither self explanatory, nor valid reasons.
Are you saying the cost of solder is in any way significant when installing plumbing?
** If you have only a couple of bad joints to fix and 63/37 on hand - then yes.
Sorry, $0.10 vs $0.01 is not significant.
** ROTFL !
A 500gm reel of Sn/Cu solder can cost you as much as $100.
Which will last for many thousands of dollars worth of copper pipe.
** ROTFL !!!
So, still not significant. If you can\'t afford the solder, you surely can\'t afford the copper.
** Stop it - my sides are hurting !
As to your temperature comment, I repeat my question: If lead free works fine...?
** There IS more than one way to remove the skin from a feline....
Which is still not an explanation.
** There was nothing to explain - you smug, retarded NUT CASE !!
This is classic Phil.
** ROTFLMAO !!
Yep - I sure as hell know when I\'m dealing with a raving lunatic.
The only real difference from Larkin,
** There are many, great big ones.
All of them forever incomprehensible to a rabid, autistic, ADHD fucked, narcissistic fool like YOU.
..... love, Phil
This is closer to the Phil we all know. When you can\'t dispute the facts, you get silly and insulting. But not much in the way of profanities. Maybe you\'ve taken the pledge?
Love, Ricky
You two get a room.
You can leave the key with me.