Soldering kit

[Andy]

I have been soldering for a lot of years, but all I had was a single 30W temp iron and no desolder gun.

My new kit will have adjustable heat and a desoldering gun.

That will be nice as it's been a bear trying to wick up solder and sling it away.

I have been using my bench grinder brush to clean my tips.

My current tip is at least a year old, but still heats great.

What do you use ?

What other tips do you have?

Some of the wire I have worked with is a dull silver, obviously not copper.

What kind of wire is it?

Thanks,
Andy

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 17:35:30 -0800 (PST), Andy
<andrewkennedy775@gmail.com> wrote:

I have been soldering for a lot of years, but all I had was a single 30W temp iron and no desolder gun.

My new kit will have adjustable heat and a desoldering gun.

That will be nice as it's been a bear trying to wick up solder and sling it away.

I use wick, but mostly surface-mount. It's harder to wick thru-hole
parts. I don't reuse parts, so I can snip off all the leads before
desoldering. The board is important, the parts aren't.

I have been using my bench grinder brush to clean my tips.

My current tip is at least a year old, but still heats great.

What do you use ?

Metcal.

What other tips do you have?

Several sizes, and a really hot one for taking the insulation off
magnet wire.


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lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Andy]

On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 9:46:03 PM UTC-6, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 17:35:30 -0800 (PST), Andy
andrewkennedy775@gmail.com> wrote:

I have been soldering for a lot of years, but all I had was a single 30W temp iron and no desolder gun.

My new kit will have adjustable heat and a desoldering gun.

That will be nice as it's been a bear trying to wick up solder and sling it away.

I use wick, but mostly surface-mount. It's harder to wick thru-hole
parts. I don't reuse parts, so I can snip off all the leads before
desoldering. The board is important, the parts aren't.


I have been using my bench grinder brush to clean my tips.

My current tip is at least a year old, but still heats great.

What do you use ?

Metcal.


What other tips do you have?

Several sizes, and a really hot one for taking the insulation off
magnet wire.


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lunatic fringe electronics

The tips I was referring was the helpful kind, not the soldering ones

Andy

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <95330d6d-5054-465f-a6e2-129778e82d7a@googlegroups.com>,
andrewkennedy775@gmail.com says...

I have been soldering for a lot of years, but all I had was a single 30W temp iron and no desolder gun.

My new kit will have adjustable heat and a desoldering gun.

That will be nice as it's been a bear trying to wick up solder and sling it away.

I have been using my bench grinder brush to clean my tips.

My current tip is at least a year old, but still heats great.

What do you use ?

What other tips do you have?

Some of the wire I have worked with is a dull silver, obviously not copper.

What kind of wire is it?

Thanks,
Andy

To clean the tips I use one of the brass or bronze type cleaners. It
looks like one of the things used to clean pots and pans. The thing
that looks like a big wad of flat metal strips. They usually come in a
holder about the size of a baseball with one side cut out.

I don't do a lot of soldering, but bought one of the hot air rework
stations off ebay for about $ 60. It has an iron with several small
tips and a hot air gun. The hot air gun works for the SMD, but also to
remove the through hole ICs and sometimes to remove the daughter boards
that have several pins to connect to the motherboard. The inexpensive
one probably would not holdup to every day use (they do make some for
around $ 300), but I just do it for a hobby.

The dull silver may be aluminum. I have seen some hookup wire that was
copper plated aluminum.

Unless you have to use it , stay away from the lead free solder. Use
the 60/40 or 63/37 solder. Use some liquid flux to help remove the
solder. Flux the braid.

 

[Andy]

Thanks

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 20:12:00 -0800 (PST), Andy
<andrewkennedy775@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 9:46:03 PM UTC-6, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 17:35:30 -0800 (PST), Andy
andrewkennedy775@gmail.com> wrote:

I have been soldering for a lot of years, but all I had was a single 30W temp iron and no desolder gun.

My new kit will have adjustable heat and a desoldering gun.

That will be nice as it's been a bear trying to wick up solder and sling it away.

I use wick, but mostly surface-mount. It's harder to wick thru-hole
parts. I don't reuse parts, so I can snip off all the leads before
desoldering. The board is important, the parts aren't.


I have been using my bench grinder brush to clean my tips.

My current tip is at least a year old, but still heats great.

What do you use ?

Metcal.


What other tips do you have?

Several sizes, and a really hot one for taking the insulation off
magnet wire.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

The tips I was referring was the helpful kind, not the soldering ones

Andy

English is a wonderful language. We have about 300,000 words, and each
has many meanings.


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lunatic fringe electronics

 

[George Herold]

On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 8:35:36 PM UTC-5, Andy wrote:

I have been soldering for a lot of years, but all I had was a single 30W temp iron and no desolder gun.

My new kit will have adjustable heat and a desoldering gun.

That will be nice as it's been a bear trying to wick up solder and sling it away.

I have been using my bench grinder brush to clean my tips.

My current tip is at least a year old, but still heats great.

What do you use ?

What other tips do you have?

Some of the wire I have worked with is a dull silver, obviously not copper.

What kind of wire is it?

Thanks,
Andy

I've had a Weller WTCPT for years, actually I have two, one with a fine
tip and another big burly one. Tips have a coating and shouldn't need
grinding... that might just make them age faster.
(The production people have Metcal's and like them.)
For sucking solder out of through holes I love my DP-100 desoldering
pump. I'm not any good at using solder wick.

George H.

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <farj6d5hta18bqsnsbq6956hf32b45j5vv@4ax.com>,
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com says...

The tips I was referring was the helpful kind, not the soldering ones

Andy

English is a wonderful language. We have about 300,000 words, and each
has many meanings.

And England english is sometimes different than American english. Some
words that mean the same are not even spelled the same.

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 06:46:19 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

English is a wonderful language. We have about 300,000 words, and each
has many meanings.

But none with as many meanings as the German word 'zug' AFAIK.




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[Cursitor Doom]

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 07:02:10 -0800, George Herold wrote:

For sucking solder out of through holes I love my DP-100 desoldering
pump. I'm not any good at using solder wick.

They can be too aggressive on some boards, though. It's not nice when you
find a half inch of trace hanging out the end of your pump.





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Best I've found is the Hakko. Little blue thing heats up quick and works real nice.

If you want hot air I don't know.

 

[Chris]

On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:42:05 -0800, jurb6006 wrote:

Best I've found is the Hakko. Little blue thing heats up quick and works
real nice.

Do you have the model number or link for the actual specific item on Ebay
or Amazon?

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2018-01-26, Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 06:46:19 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

English is a wonderful language. We have about 300,000 words, and each
has many meanings.

But none with as many meanings as the German word 'zug' AFAIK.

Collins german-english dictionary lists only 10 meanings,

English "set" has thirty-something meanings and there are words with more.

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[Jasen Betts]

On 2018-01-27, Chris <cbx@noreply.com> wrote:

On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:42:05 -0800, jurb6006 wrote:

Best I've found is the Hakko. Little blue thing heats up quick and works
real nice.

Do you have the model number or link for the actual specific item on Ebay
or Amazon?

"Little blue thing" is probably a Hakko FX-888, (also available in grey)

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[George Herold]

On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 2:42:23 PM UTC-5, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 07:02:10 -0800, George Herold wrote:

For sucking solder out of through holes I love my DP-100 desoldering
pump. I'm not any good at using solder wick.

They can be too aggressive on some boards, though. It's not nice when you
find a half inch of trace hanging out the end of your pump.

Right, not for surface mount.

George H.

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On 27 Jan 2018 03:18:06 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2018-01-26, Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 06:46:19 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

English is a wonderful language. We have about 300,000 words, and each
has many meanings.

But none with as many meanings as the German word 'zug' AFAIK.

Collins german-english dictionary lists only 10 meanings,

English "set" has thirty-something meanings and there are words with more.

What about the word "fuck"? It is used in so manydifferent ways. Such
as: "Fuck You You Fuckin' Fuck!". I can think of many ways that
sentence could be read.
Eric

 

[M Philbrook]

In article <MPG.34d3c846912bfbbe9896f0@news.east.earthlink.net>,
rmowery28146@earthlink.net says...

In article <farj6d5hta18bqsnsbq6956hf32b45j5vv@4ax.com>,
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com says...



The tips I was referring was the helpful kind, not the soldering ones

Andy

English is a wonderful language. We have about 300,000 words, and each
has many meanings.

And England english is sometimes different than American english. Some
words that mean the same are not even spelled the same.

Whats the matter fer you, they all spelt the same!

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 03:18:06 +0000, Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2018-01-26, Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 06:46:19 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

English is a wonderful language. We have about 300,000 words, and each
has many meanings.

But none with as many meanings as the German word 'zug' AFAIK.

Collins german-english dictionary lists only 10 meanings,

English "set" has thirty-something meanings and there are words with
more.

There are some exceedingly useful words in this language. Schlag, for
example; and Zug. There are three-quarters of a column of Schlags in the
dictionary, and a column and a half of Zugs. The word Schlag means Blow,
Stroke, Dash, Hit, Shock, Clap, Slap, Time, Bar, Coin, Stamp, Kind, Sort,
Manner, Way, Apoplexy, Wood-cutting, Enclosure, Field, Forest-clearing.
This is its simple and exact meaning -- that is to say, its restricted,
its fettered meaning; but there are ways by which you can set it free, so
that it can soar away, as on the wings of the morning, and never be at
rest. You can hang any word you please to its tail, and make it mean
anything you want to. You can begin with Schlag-ader, which means artery,
and you can hang on the whole dictionary, word by word, clear through the
alphabet to Schlag-wasser, which means bilge-water -- and including
Schlag-mutter, which means mother-in-law.

Just the same with Zug. Strictly speaking, Zug means Pull, Tug, Draught,
Procession, March, Progress, Flight, Direction, Expedition, Train,
Caravan, Passage, Stroke, Touch, Line, Flourish, Trait of Character,
Feature, Lineament, Chess-move, Organ-stop, Team, Whiff, Bias, Drawer,
Propensity, Inhalation, Disposition: but that thing which it does not
mean -- when all its legitimate pennants have been hung on, has not been
discovered yet.

"One cannot overestimate the usefulness of Schlag and Zug. Armed just
with these two, and the word also, what cannot the foreigner on German
soil accomplish? The German word also is the equivalent of the English
phrase "You know," and does not mean anything at all -- in talk, though
it sometimes does in print. Every time a German opens his mouth an also
falls out; and every time he shuts it he bites one in two that was trying
to get out.

"Now, the foreigner, equipped with these three noble words, is master of
the situation. Let him talk right along, fearlessly; let him pour his
indifferent German forth, and when he lacks for a word, let him heave a
Schlag into the vacuum; all the chances are that it fits it like a plug,
but if it doesn't let him promptly heave a Zug after it; the two together
can hardly fail to bung the hole; but if, by a miracle, they should fail,
let him simply say also! and this will give him a moment's chance to
think of the needful word. In Germany, when you load your conversational
gun it is always best to throw in a Schlag or two and a Zug or two,
because it doesn't make any difference how much the rest of the charge
may scatter, you are bound to bag something with them. Then you blandly
say also, and load up again. Nothing gives such an air of grace and
elegance and unconstraint to a German or an English conversation as to
scatter it full of "Also's" or "You knows.""


From Mark Twain's essay, The Awful German Language:
https://www.cs.utah.edu/~gback/awfgrmlg.html


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[Cursitor Doom]

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:56:41 -0500, Ralph Mowery wrote:

And England english is sometimes different than American english. Some
words that mean the same are not even spelled the same.

That was certainly the case before Samuel Johnson published his ground-
breaking dictionary - but you're really talking about the state of the
language prior to its publication in 1775.





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