slightly OT: I want to rob a bank

[Phil]

On this lazy Sunday afternoon, me and me mates were thinkin....

You know how on Ocean's 11, the casino that they robbed had a rule that they
had to stock all of the value of their chips on the floor in cash in the
vault downstairs?

Is this really the law? If I wanted to rob the biggest bank in Australia,
a-la "the great train heist" style, where would I find the biggest amount of
cash? The reserve bank of Australia? Does anyone know where their vault is
based?

Oh yeah, and you know how in the movies there is like a sealed room with
heaps of alarms guarding some high tech computer? And you have to go through
fingerprints and retina scanners etc. to get in? Does anyone know if high
security stuff like this actually exists in real life? What is the highest
security you have ever seen implemented in real life?

 

[Rod Speed]

Phil <haxby@removethisbitandjustleave dodo.com.au>
wrote in message news:3f5aa303@news.comindico.com.au...

On this lazy Sunday afternoon, me and me mates were thinkin....

Dangerous business. If you get smelly brown stuff dripping from
your ears you will know that you have overdone that thinkin stuff.

Unfortunately once that happens, its completely irreversible.

You have been warned...

You know how on Ocean's 11, the casino that they robbed
had a rule that they had to stock all of the value of their
chips on the floor in cash in the vault downstairs?

Just a plot device.

Is this really the law?

Nope.

If I wanted to rob the biggest bank in Australia, a-la "the great
train heist" style, where would I find the biggest amount of cash?

At the mint most likely.

The reserve bank of Australia?

Nope.

Does anyone know where their vault is based?

If I told you that, I would have to kill you...

Oh yeah, and you know how in the movies there is like a sealed
room with heaps of alarms guarding some high tech computer?

The real world aint anything like that.

And you have to go through fingerprints
and retina scanners etc. to get in?

Thats why you see people making obscene
gestures as they enter the building.

Does anyone know if high security stuff
like this actually exists in real life?

Yep.

What is the highest security you have
ever seen implemented in real life?

Microchips like you get with dogs and cats.

They've been putting them in babys in hospitals for years now
too, but if I told you that, I'd have to kill you all over again.

 

[The real Andy]

"Phil" <haxby@removethisbitandjustleave dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f5aa303@news.comindico.com.au...

On this lazy Sunday afternoon, me and me mates were thinkin....

You know how on Ocean's 11, the casino that they robbed had a rule that
they
had to stock all of the value of their chips on the floor in cash in the
vault downstairs?

Is this really the law? If I wanted to rob the biggest bank in Australia,
a-la "the great train heist" style, where would I find the biggest amount
of
cash? The reserve bank of Australia? Does anyone know where their vault is
based?

Oh yeah, and you know how in the movies there is like a sealed room with
heaps of alarms guarding some high tech computer? And you have to go
through
fingerprints and retina scanners etc. to get in? Does anyone know if high
security stuff like this actually exists in real life? What is the highest
security you have ever seen implemented in real life?

I've seen a couple of trucks leaving the qld reserve bank. The whole street
was closed to traffic whilst the trucks left the building. Many police cars
were seen before and after the trucks. The part that amazed me was the blue
magna with 5 guys in balaclava's (spelling) with rather large weapons. Dont
know what the trucks where carrying, but it must of been worth a few bob.


PS, i've seen fingerprint scanning used in the casino on the gold coast.

 

[Arpit]

I wonder why they were wearing balaclavas.......

On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 20:27:07 +1000, "The real Andy"
<ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

"Phil" <haxby@removethisbitandjustleave dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f5aa303@news.comindico.com.au...
On this lazy Sunday afternoon, me and me mates were thinkin....

You know how on Ocean's 11, the casino that they robbed had a rule that
they
had to stock all of the value of their chips on the floor in cash in the
vault downstairs?

Is this really the law? If I wanted to rob the biggest bank in Australia,
a-la "the great train heist" style, where would I find the biggest amount
of
cash? The reserve bank of Australia? Does anyone know where their vault is
based?

Oh yeah, and you know how in the movies there is like a sealed room with
heaps of alarms guarding some high tech computer? And you have to go
through
fingerprints and retina scanners etc. to get in? Does anyone know if high
security stuff like this actually exists in real life? What is the highest
security you have ever seen implemented in real life?

I've seen a couple of trucks leaving the qld reserve bank. The whole street
was closed to traffic whilst the trucks left the building. Many police cars
were seen before and after the trucks. The part that amazed me was the blue
magna with 5 guys in balaclava's (spelling) with rather large weapons. Dont
know what the trucks where carrying, but it must of been worth a few bob.


PS, i've seen fingerprint scanning used in the casino on the gold coast.

 

[The real Andy]

"Arpit" <DONTSPAMMEF00Lneko4@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:cv2mlvcbfh1g1jr3pbnsn9lqfp94ev55a8@4ax.com...

I wonder why they were wearing balaclavas.......

So you dont know who they are, and never will. Plus if they shoot you, no
one know which one took the fatal shot.

 

[Arpit]

Yeah, but if they are all legit, there shouldnt be any need to cover
it up..... should there?

On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 21:13:37 +1000, "The real Andy"
<ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

"Arpit" <DONTSPAMMEF00Lneko4@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:cv2mlvcbfh1g1jr3pbnsn9lqfp94ev55a8@4ax.com...
I wonder why they were wearing balaclavas.......

So you dont know who they are, and never will. Plus if they shoot you, no
one know which one took the fatal shot.

 

[James Horne]

"The real Andy" <ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f5b0835$0$13416$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

"Phil" <haxby@removethisbitandjustleave dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f5aa303@news.comindico.com.au...
On this lazy Sunday afternoon, me and me mates were thinkin....

You know how on Ocean's 11, the casino that they robbed had a rule that
they
had to stock all of the value of their chips on the floor in cash in the
vault downstairs?

Is this really the law? If I wanted to rob the biggest bank in
Australia,
a-la "the great train heist" style, where would I find the biggest
amount
of
cash? The reserve bank of Australia? Does anyone know where their vault
is
based?

Oh yeah, and you know how in the movies there is like a sealed room with
heaps of alarms guarding some high tech computer? And you have to go
through
fingerprints and retina scanners etc. to get in? Does anyone know if
high
security stuff like this actually exists in real life? What is the
highest
security you have ever seen implemented in real life?

I've seen a couple of trucks leaving the qld reserve bank. The whole
street
was closed to traffic whilst the trucks left the building. Many police
cars
were seen before and after the trucks. The part that amazed me was the
blue
magna with 5 guys in balaclava's (spelling) with rather large weapons.
Dont
know what the trucks where carrying, but it must of been worth a few bob.


PS, i've seen fingerprint scanning used in the casino on the gold coast.

Thumb/fingerprint scanning seems to be pretty popular....seen it in a number
of businesses for employees clocking on/off. As far as the best security
measures I've seen I'd have to say it was at the Melbourne telephone
exchange shortly after Sept 11. & basically involved fairly extensive IDing
& being escorted everywhere by an armed guard. As for security at banks,
most I've seen are pretty damn ordinary, very little ID needed to get behind
the counter, vaults often left wide open etc.

James

 

[KLR]

On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 20:27:07 +1000, "The real Andy"
<ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

"Phil" <haxby@removethisbitandjustleave dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f5aa303@news.comindico.com.au...
On this lazy Sunday afternoon, me and me mates were thinkin....

You know how on Ocean's 11, the casino that they robbed had a rule that
they
had to stock all of the value of their chips on the floor in cash in the
vault downstairs?

Is this really the law? If I wanted to rob the biggest bank in Australia,
a-la "the great train heist" style, where would I find the biggest amount
of
cash? The reserve bank of Australia? Does anyone know where their vault is
based?

Oh yeah, and you know how in the movies there is like a sealed room with
heaps of alarms guarding some high tech computer? And you have to go
through
fingerprints and retina scanners etc. to get in? Does anyone know if high
security stuff like this actually exists in real life? What is the highest
security you have ever seen implemented in real life?

I've seen a couple of trucks leaving the qld reserve bank. The whole street
was closed to traffic whilst the trucks left the building. Many police cars
were seen before and after the trucks. The part that amazed me was the blue
magna with 5 guys in balaclava's (spelling) with rather large weapons. Dont
know what the trucks where carrying, but it must of been worth a few bob.


PS, i've seen fingerprint scanning used in the casino on the gold coast.

Its also used in QLD prisons (I accompanied a colleage to a max.
security one recently to assist him with a PA system repair job)

It took 3 tries to scan mine properly - and they also put sorbolene
cream on our fingers (to make it "see" better).

 

[KLR]

On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 03:16:20 GMT, "Phil"
<haxby@removethisbitandjustleave dodo.com.au> wrote:

On this lazy Sunday afternoon, me and me mates were thinkin....

You know how on Ocean's 11, the casino that they robbed had a rule that they
had to stock all of the value of their chips on the floor in cash in the
vault downstairs?

Is this really the law? If I wanted to rob the biggest bank in Australia,
a-la "the great train heist" style, where would I find the biggest amount of
cash? The reserve bank of Australia? Does anyone know where their vault is
based?

No idea. I would imagine these days that very little (relative to the

economy) physical cash actually exists anymore - compared to actually
what exists in the accounts - its all "on paper" or "electronic". I
recall being told some years back (and I dont know how true it is)
that only 3% of the "money" in "circulation" is actual physical cash
and the rest is in accounts etc.

Also we had the "gold standard" whereas Australia had gold reserves to
guarantee its currency in circulation. Whether these exist still or
where they are I have no idea. Possibly not in Australia even ?

Oh yeah, and you know how in the movies there is like a sealed room with
heaps of alarms guarding some high tech computer? And you have to go through
fingerprints and retina scanners etc. to get in? Does anyone know if high
security stuff like this actually exists in real life? What is the highest
security you have ever seen implemented in real life?


Fingerprint scanners do actually exist. Have used one

I have seen sales literature for retina scanners too. this was some
time back too - so I would imagine by now they would be commonplace
and a well known technology in high security areas.

by the way - I believe that these items only work with living tissue,
so chopping off an "authorised" finger/eye etc and trying to use it in
such a scanner isn't going to work. (as well as being messy and very
unpleasant for the owner of the finger)

 

[KLR]

On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:43:53 GMT, Arpit
<DONTSPAMMEF00Lneko4@dodo.com.au> wrote:

I wonder why they were wearing balaclavas.......

Possibly some special forces/SAS/ASIO or such that they don't want

their identity being made public.

Their identity being made public might compromise future operations or
other such national security matters where secrecy is paramount.


Also there is the possibility that they might be Holden fanatics and
didnt want to be seen publicly driving a Magna
(which might also be part of their cover

On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 20:27:07 +1000, "The real Andy"
ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

"Phil" <haxby@removethisbitandjustleave dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f5aa303@news.comindico.com.au...
On this lazy Sunday afternoon, me and me mates were thinkin....

You know how on Ocean's 11, the casino that they robbed had a rule that
they
had to stock all of the value of their chips on the floor in cash in the
vault downstairs?

Is this really the law? If I wanted to rob the biggest bank in Australia,
a-la "the great train heist" style, where would I find the biggest amount
of
cash? The reserve bank of Australia? Does anyone know where their vault is
based?

Oh yeah, and you know how in the movies there is like a sealed room with
heaps of alarms guarding some high tech computer? And you have to go
through
fingerprints and retina scanners etc. to get in? Does anyone know if high
security stuff like this actually exists in real life? What is the highest
security you have ever seen implemented in real life?

I've seen a couple of trucks leaving the qld reserve bank. The whole street
was closed to traffic whilst the trucks left the building. Many police cars
were seen before and after the trucks. The part that amazed me was the blue
magna with 5 guys in balaclava's (spelling) with rather large weapons. Dont
know what the trucks where carrying, but it must of been worth a few bob.


PS, i've seen fingerprint scanning used in the casino on the gold coast.

 

[KLR]

On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 11:31:17 GMT, Arpit
<DONTSPAMMEF00Lneko4@dodo.com.au> wrote:

Yeah, but if they are all legit, there shouldnt be any need to cover
it up..... should there?

If they werent legit - sounds like there would be plenty of cops

nearby to take care of it. So I wouldn't worry too much

On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 21:13:37 +1000, "The real Andy"
ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

"Arpit" <DONTSPAMMEF00Lneko4@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:cv2mlvcbfh1g1jr3pbnsn9lqfp94ev55a8@4ax.com...
I wonder why they were wearing balaclavas.......

So you dont know who they are, and never will. Plus if they shoot you, no
one know which one took the fatal shot.

 

[Rod Speed]

"Arpit" <DONTSPAMMEF00Lneko4@dodo.com.au> wrote in message news:cv2mlvcbfh1g1jr3pbnsn9lqfp94ev55a8@4ax.com...

I wonder why they were wearing balaclavas.......

Just stupid kids that behave like stupid kids, basically.

On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 20:27:07 +1000, "The real Andy"
ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

"Phil" <haxby@removethisbitandjustleave dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f5aa303@news.comindico.com.au...
On this lazy Sunday afternoon, me and me mates were thinkin....

You know how on Ocean's 11, the casino that they robbed had a rule that
they
had to stock all of the value of their chips on the floor in cash in the
vault downstairs?

Is this really the law? If I wanted to rob the biggest bank in Australia,
a-la "the great train heist" style, where would I find the biggest amount
of
cash? The reserve bank of Australia? Does anyone know where their vault is
based?

Oh yeah, and you know how in the movies there is like a sealed room with
heaps of alarms guarding some high tech computer? And you have to go
through
fingerprints and retina scanners etc. to get in? Does anyone know if high
security stuff like this actually exists in real life? What is the highest
security you have ever seen implemented in real life?

I've seen a couple of trucks leaving the qld reserve bank. The whole street
was closed to traffic whilst the trucks left the building. Many police cars
were seen before and after the trucks. The part that amazed me was the blue
magna with 5 guys in balaclava's (spelling) with rather large weapons. Dont
know what the trucks where carrying, but it must of been worth a few bob.


PS, i've seen fingerprint scanning used in the casino on the gold coast.

 

[Terry Collins]

KLR wrote:

.....snip......

Also we had the "gold standard" whereas Australia had gold reserves to
guarantee its currency in circulation. Whether these exist still or
where they are I have no idea. Possibly not in Australia even ?

...snip.....

The "gold standard" hasn't existed for decades. It was a world wide
standard that was crippling the capitalist system, so they did away with
it. Allows much more entrenpreneurial (sp?) opportunities and provides a
ready source of inflation.


--
Terry Collins {}}} email: terryc at woa.com.au www:
http://www.woa.com.au
Wombat Outdoor Adventures <Bicycles, Computers, GIS, Printing,
Publishing>

"People without trees are like fish without clean water"

 

[Clifford Heath]

Terry Collins wrote:

The "gold standard" ... was crippling the capitalist system

If you want to spout Marxism here, at least update it to use
20th century concepts - what you say is arrant nonsense. It
was simply unrealistic to tie the value of everything to one
specific finite resource, when the reality is that everything
floats against everything else. The only valid resources that
can ultimately govern the wealth of any society is energy (the
ability to do work), and the intelligence to use it efficiently
and wisely. The gold standard introduced quirks to the process
of valuation which limited effiency. Interesting how the basis
of our values has moved from m to m*v^2 .

 

[William J. Wolfe]

Arpit <DONTSPAMMEF00Lneko4@dodo.com.au> wrote in message news:<cv2mlvcbfh1g1jr3pbnsn9lqfp94ev55a8@4ax.com>...

I wonder why they were wearing balaclavas.......

Airconditioner control was stuck on "Freeze."

 

[Terry Collins]

Clifford Heath wrote:

Terry Collins wrote:
The "gold standard" ... was crippling the capitalist system

If you want to spout Marxism here,

I wasn't aware that Marx had anything to say on the gold standard.
Actually I have never read any works of his either.

at least update it to use
20th century concepts

What "Piss and Wind" economic theories. I guess that was what happened
to AWA when the accountants started running an electronics company in
the 80's.

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Terry Collins" <terryc@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:3F5C5F9C.300D177E@woa.com.au...

Clifford Heath wrote:

Terry Collins wrote:
The "gold standard" ... was crippling the capitalist system

If you want to spout Marxism here,

I wasn't aware that Marx had anything to say on the gold standard.
Actually I have never read any works of his either.


at least update it to use
20th century concepts

What "Piss and Wind" economic theories. I guess that was what happened
to AWA when the accountants started running an electronics company in
the 80's.

I seem to recall a couple of early-20's kids being given carte blanche and
no management oversight. Not the fault of the kids but the slack-arse board.

Ken

 

[skozzy]

I wonder why they were wearing balaclavas.......

Because it was cold.