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All I wanted to do was make a Sony DVD remote run on a power adapter
instead of batteries (for a business application). The remote uses 3v
from 2 AA batteries so i got a 3vdc 500ma power adapter from Radio
Shack connected with a mini phone jack. Well some of the buttons
worked but some either didn't or were erratic. I check the voltage on
the power adapter and it was 3.8v so i took it back and got a 3vdc
1000ma adapter that checked at 3.1v so i tried that one and same
problem. Put the batteries back in and it works fine.

I've done this on other remotes the same way with no problems but this
one seems to be picky. I imagine the power isn't clean enuff but i
don't have a scope to check. Can i just put a electrocap across the
power? or something like that....

Thanks :)
 
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:28:37 GMT, "petrus bitbyter"
<p.kralt@reducespamforchello.nl> wrote:

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All I wanted to do was make a Sony DVD remote run on a power adapter
instead of batteries (for a business application). The remote uses 3v
from 2 AA batteries so i got a 3vdc 500ma power adapter from Radio
Shack connected with a mini phone jack. Well some of the buttons
worked but some either didn't or were erratic. I check the voltage on
the power adapter and it was 3.8v so i took it back and got a 3vdc
1000ma adapter that checked at 3.1v so i tried that one and same
problem. Put the batteries back in and it works fine.

I've done this on other remotes the same way with no problems but this
one seems to be picky. I imagine the power isn't clean enuff but i
don't have a scope to check. Can i just put a electrocap across the
power? or something like that....

Thanks :)


Think you've done some overkill. A remote controller is hardly a load for
the batteries until you press a button. Then it wil take some mA to power
the IR-LED. Modern power adapters are small SMPSs that often do not very
well without load. An electrolytic capacitor of let's say 10-100uF mounted
near the remote controll may be a good remedy. You can also try some dummy
load using a resistor of 150Ohm parallel to the cap.

petrus bitbyter
Click to expand...


I tried 47uf cap and 151omh resistor both parallel to the supply and
still the same... was that what you meant? both parallel?
 
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:08:22 -0800, Jamie
<jamie_5_not_valid_after_5_Please@charter.net> wrote:

WhoCares wrote:

All I wanted to do was make a Sony DVD remote run on a power adapter
instead of batteries (for a business application). The remote uses 3v
from 2 AA batteries so i got a 3vdc 500ma power adapter from Radio
Shack connected with a mini phone jack. Well some of the buttons
worked but some either didn't or were erratic. I check the voltage on
the power adapter and it was 3.8v so i took it back and got a 3vdc
1000ma adapter that checked at 3.1v so i tried that one and same
problem. Put the batteries back in and it works fine.

I've done this on other remotes the same way with no problems but this
one seems to be picky. I imagine the power isn't clean enuff but i
don't have a scope to check. Can i just put a electrocap across the
power? or something like that....

Thanks :)
its more than likely the Wallwort is inducing some R.F. noise on its
wires and is getting in the remotes electronics.
try using a couple of chokes and by-pass caps in both teh + & -
leads at the battery clip end.
Click to expand...
Sounds worth a try... what values do you suggest and in series or
parallel?
 
WhoCares explained :
All I wanted to do was make a Sony DVD remote run on a power adapter
instead of batteries (for a business application). The remote uses 3v
from 2 AA batteries so i got a 3vdc 500ma power adapter from Radio
Shack connected with a mini phone jack. Well some of the buttons
worked but some either didn't or were erratic. I check the voltage on
the power adapter and it was 3.8v so i took it back and got a 3vdc
1000ma adapter that checked at 3.1v so i tried that one and same
problem. Put the batteries back in and it works fine.

I've done this on other remotes the same way with no problems but this
one seems to be picky. I imagine the power isn't clean enuff but i
don't have a scope to check. Can i just put a electrocap across the
power? or something like that....

Thanks :)
Click to expand...
take a good look at the battery compartment. Is there 2 or 3 wires
going from it to the board?. if 3 then the board uses 2 voltages and a
converter will not work

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All I wanted to do was make a Sony DVD remote run on a power adapter
instead of batteries (for a business application). The remote uses 3v
from 2 AA batteries so i got a 3vdc 500ma power adapter from Radio
Shack connected with a mini phone jack. Well some of the buttons
worked but some either didn't or were erratic. I check the voltage on
the power adapter and it was 3.8v so i took it back and got a 3vdc
1000ma adapter that checked at 3.1v so i tried that one and same
problem. Put the batteries back in and it works fine.

I've done this on other remotes the same way with no problems but this
one seems to be picky. I imagine the power isn't clean enuff but i
don't have a scope to check. Can i just put a electrocap across the
power? or something like that....

Thanks :)
Click to expand...

Think you've done some overkill. A remote controller is hardly a load for
the batteries until you press a button. Then it wil take some mA to power
the IR-LED. Modern power adapters are small SMPSs that often do not very
well without load. An electrolytic capacitor of let's say 10-100uF mounted
near the remote controll may be a good remedy. You can also try some dummy
load using a resistor of 150Ohm parallel to the cap.

petrus bitbyter
 
WhoCares wrote:

All I wanted to do was make a Sony DVD remote run on a power adapter
instead of batteries (for a business application). The remote uses 3v
from 2 AA batteries so i got a 3vdc 500ma power adapter from Radio
Shack connected with a mini phone jack. Well some of the buttons
worked but some either didn't or were erratic. I check the voltage on
the power adapter and it was 3.8v so i took it back and got a 3vdc
1000ma adapter that checked at 3.1v so i tried that one and same
problem. Put the batteries back in and it works fine.

I've done this on other remotes the same way with no problems but this
one seems to be picky. I imagine the power isn't clean enuff but i
don't have a scope to check. Can i just put a electrocap across the
power? or something like that....

Thanks :)
its more than likely the Wallwort is inducing some R.F. noise on its
Click to expand...
wires and is getting in the remotes electronics.
try using a couple of chokes and by-pass caps in both teh + & -
leads at the battery clip end.
 
WhoCares wrote:

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:08:22 -0800, Jamie
jamie_5_not_valid_after_5_Please@charter.net> wrote:


WhoCares wrote:


All I wanted to do was make a Sony DVD remote run on a power adapter
instead of batteries (for a business application). The remote uses 3v
from 2 AA batteries so i got a 3vdc 500ma power adapter from Radio
Shack connected with a mini phone jack. Well some of the buttons
worked but some either didn't or were erratic. I check the voltage on
the power adapter and it was 3.8v so i took it back and got a 3vdc
1000ma adapter that checked at 3.1v so i tried that one and same
problem. Put the batteries back in and it works fine.

I've done this on other remotes the same way with no problems but this
one seems to be picky. I imagine the power isn't clean enuff but i
don't have a scope to check. Can i just put a electrocap across the
power? or something like that....

Thanks :)

its more than likely the Wallwort is inducing some R.F. noise on its
wires and is getting in the remotes electronics.
try using a couple of chokes and by-pass caps in both teh + & -
leads at the battery clip end.


Sounds worth a try... what values do you suggest and in series or
parallel?





something around 1 mh choke and 1 nf give or take a abit.
Click to expand...
 
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:28:37 GMT, "petrus bitbyter"
p.kralt@reducespamforchello.nl> wrote:


"WhoCares" <What@Why.com> schreef in bericht
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All I wanted to do was make a Sony DVD remote run on a power adapter
instead of batteries (for a business application). The remote uses 3v
from 2 AA batteries so i got a 3vdc 500ma power adapter from Radio
Shack connected with a mini phone jack. Well some of the buttons
worked but some either didn't or were erratic. I check the voltage on
the power adapter and it was 3.8v so i took it back and got a 3vdc
1000ma adapter that checked at 3.1v so i tried that one and same
problem. Put the batteries back in and it works fine.

I've done this on other remotes the same way with no problems but this
one seems to be picky. I imagine the power isn't clean enuff but i
don't have a scope to check. Can i just put a electrocap across the
power? or something like that....

Thanks :)


Think you've done some overkill. A remote controller is hardly a load for
the batteries until you press a button. Then it wil take some mA to power
the IR-LED. Modern power adapters are small SMPSs that often do not very
well without load. An electrolytic capacitor of let's say 10-100uF mounted
near the remote controll may be a good remedy. You can also try some dummy
load using a resistor of 150Ohm parallel to the cap.

petrus bitbyter



I tried 47uf cap and 151omh resistor both parallel to the supply and
still the same... was that what you meant? both parallel?
Click to expand...
That's what I meant and I'm surprised it didn't work. Did you place them on
the remotes side? Next you can try is adding a 1-5nF ceramic parallel to the
elco. Just to short hf-ripple. Then try a small resistor (1-4.7Ohm) or a
choke (1mH) in series with the power line. Place this one(s) near the
capacitors on the side of the supply. A series diode may also work but it
will lower the voltage on the remote with about 0.6V (unless you use a
Schottky).

petrus bitbyter
 
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