Similar To the Great Depression for Self _Un_Employed Skille

[Bret Cahill]

HP lays off engineers by giving them $60K and a trip to La Jolla.
They can then pick up another 20K + in unemployment which will be more
than enough to coast to the recovery if they live modestly, assuming
they don't first get another job, not a good assumption.

In sharp contrast, the self employed computer "consultant" who managed
to get by quite well repairing and selling used computers during the
boom years, however, ain't getting no $60K.

The Reaganomics get rick quick with the Gipster ain't working and they
don't know what to do.

This results in a social situation identical to that described by
Studds Terkel in his last interview which should be given much wider
coverage


Bret Cahill


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.aarpmagazine.org/money/fear_economy_studs_terkel.html

The Great Depression. I was about 17 years old. Hoover was still
president. People had been living high off the hog. And then, boom,
comes the Crash. It was so sudden. Guys jumped out of windows. They
didn’t know what to do. The wise men ran around, and then they cried
out after Roosevelt for the government to help them out. Regulation.
They asked for it. They cried for it. The wise men were lost, just as
they are today. The free market fell on its fanny. We learned nothing.
It’s exactly the same today.

“The lessons of the Great Depression? Don’t blame yourself. Turn to
others. The big boys are not that bright.”

My mother ran a hotel, the Wells-Grand Hotel, for men, just outside
Chicago’s skid row.

Skilled workers. Mechanics. Guys with jobs here and there. Some
retired. It was fine. The lobby in the hotel was empty in the daytime.
It was just a little room, and at night they’d come play hearts and
pinochle. Then came 1929. Suddenly they’re not working. Or those guys
who retired, suddenly their pensions are gone. Now they’re in the
lobby in the daytime. They don’t know what the hell to do. So they
drank more. And played the horses more. And there were fights. What
were the fights over? Their own self-respect. I mean, they had nothing
to do. They were furious. Who do you blame? Who do you hit? You hit
each other. That was sort of a metaphor for what happened to the
country. They blamed themselves. Yet I met these people who weathered
it one way or the other, some just by lending a hand.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It’s exactly the same today."


-- Studds Terkel

 

[krw]

In article <bcb0d9f4-604e-4fd6-8217-563d201068b3@
35g2000pry.googlegroups.com>, BretCahill@aol.com says...>

HP lays off engineers by giving them $60K and a trip to La Jolla.
They can then pick up another 20K + in unemployment which will be more
than enough to coast to the recovery if they live modestly, assuming
they don't first get another job, not a good assumption.

You know when the "recovery" is coming? Ain't you the smart one?

In sharp contrast, the self employed computer "consultant" who managed
to get by quite well repairing and selling used computers during the
boom years, however, ain't getting no $60K.

If he was "doing well" and self employed, he still should be
working. In any case, he should have been saving, too.

The Reaganomics get rick quick with the Gipster ain't working and they
don't know what to do.

Reagan has been dead a while and hasn't been in office for a *long*
while.

This results in a social situation identical to that described by
Studds Terkel in his last interview which should be given much wider
coverage

<snipped an idiot's plagiarism if another idiot's work>

 

[Democracy Highlander]

On Jan 2, 6:52 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:

The Reaganomics get rick quick with the Gipster ain't working and they
don't know what to do.

From an older post:

"""
Into a society where slavery is permitted, you, as father decide to
sell your kids in slavery.
With the huge revenue, you can start partying and live a lavish
lifestyle.
You keep telling your kids to remember how good you are as father for
them, for providing them with all the toys and expensive sweets they
like.

When your kids turn 18, the payment come due and they are taken,
chained and have to spend all
their life in slavery, abused and worked to death to repay the debt.
Then, the kids which are smarter start to think:
- "Maybe our father was not such an economic genius after all."
But they are cut short by the conservative kids, with lower IQ who
cite verses from Friedman and Rand as substitute for thinking:
- "How dare you criticize him ? He gave us a nice life, he cared of us
a lot. Remember our RC planes, our steam trains, our tropical cakes
and our cruise vacations. He was an economic genius, and he really
loved us sooo much...."

Exactly this was the economics mechanism behind Reganomics.
"""

 

[krw]

In article <b051d800-7f48-4760-8c06-
f8e436eb5d3a@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, BretCahill@aol.com
says...>

HP lays off engineers by giving them $60K and a trip to La Jolla.
They can then pick up another 20K + in unemployment which will be more
than enough to coast to the recovery if they live modestly, assuming
they don't first get another job, not a good assumption.

You know when the "recovery" is coming?  Ain't you the smart one?

You don't have to sit back and do nothing.

I'm not. I'm retired and working as many, if not more, hours as I
ever did.

The more you work for progress the more insider information you'll
acquire.

I never "used" any insider information I had. Why would I start?

Eventually you'll be predicting change for the simple reason you are
causing it.

Maybe, but it certainly won't be you.

In sharp contrast, the self employed computer "consultant" who managed
to get by quite well repairing and selling used computers during the
boom years, however, ain't getting no $60K.

If he was "doing well" and self employed, he still should be
working.  

But they aren't working.

Why? Business hasn't stopped. The world still turns. People
still need computers.

Why do you think they keep spamming threads on thermo when they have
never studied the subject?

Yes, I've thought about that. Exactly why are you? Wha'ts your
angle?

In any case, he should have been saving, too.

A few might have. The fact is a lot of Americans didn't plan.

Duh! Ya think? I bet you have a 154 IQ too. Tell me again why
that's my problem?

The Reaganomics get rick quick with the Gipster ain't working and they
don't know what to do.

Reagan has been dead a while and hasn't been in office for a *long*
while.

But some of his half baked notions still survived, at least until the
meltdown.

His "half-baked" notions brought us prosperity for 20 years until
the latter-day DemonicRats built their house of cards.

<plagiarized stuff snipped again>

 

[Bret Cahill]

The Reaganomics get rick quick with the Gipster ain't working and they
don't know what to do.

From an older post:

"""
Into a society where slavery is permitted, you, as father decide to
sell your kids in slavery.
With the huge revenue, you can start partying and live a lavish
lifestyle.
You keep telling your kids to remember how good you are as father for
them, for providing them with all the toys and expensive sweets they
like.

When your kids turn 18, the payment come due and they are taken,
chained and have to spend all
their life in slavery, abused and worked to death to repay the debt.
Then, the kids which are smarter start to think:
- "Maybe our father was not such an economic genius after all."

The corp. media dumbed 'em down with saturation propaganda.

But they are cut short by the conservative kids, with lower IQ who
cite verses from Friedman and Rand as substitute for thinking:
- "How dare you criticize him ? He gave us a nice life, he cared of us
a lot. Remember our RC planes, our steam trains, our tropical cakes
and our cruise vacations. He was an economic genius, and he really
loved us sooo much...."

Exactly this was the economics mechanism behind Reganomics.

The fast big money that was unique to the info age was the root cause.

The number of people who really could get rich fast in the "private
sector" passed a critical mass and prompted some theories that were
half baked.

That critical mass is gone and so is Reaganomics.


Bret Cahill


http://www.aarpmagazine.org/money/fear_economy_studs_terkel.html

The Great Depression. I was about 17 years old. Hoover was still
president. People had been living high off the hog. And then, boom,
comes the Crash. It was so sudden. Guys jumped out of windows. They
didn’t know what to do. The wise men ran around, and then they cried
out after Roosevelt for the government to help them out. Regulation.
They asked for it. They cried for it. The wise men were lost, just as
they are today. The free market fell on its fanny. We learned nothing.
It’s exactly the same today.

“The lessons of the Great Depression? Don’t blame yourself. Turn to
others. The big boys are not that bright.”

My mother ran a hotel, the Wells-Grand Hotel, for men, just outside
Chicago’s skid row.

Skilled workers. Mechanics. Guys with jobs here and there. Some
retired. It was fine. The lobby in the hotel was empty in the daytime.
It was just a little room, and at night they’d come play hearts and
pinochle. Then came 1929. Suddenly they’re not working. Or those guys
who retired, suddenly their pensions are gone. Now they’re in the
lobby in the daytime. They don’t know what the hell to do. So they
drank more. And played the horses more. And there were fights. What
were the fights over? Their own self-respect. I mean, they had nothing
to do. They were furious. Who do you blame? Who do you hit? You hit
each other. That was sort of a metaphor for what happened to the
country. They blamed themselves. Yet I met these people who weathered
it one way or the other, some just by lending a hand.

-- Studds Terkel

 

[Bret Cahill]

HP lays off engineers by giving them $60K and a trip to La Jolla.
They can then pick up another 20K + in unemployment which will be more
than enough to coast to the recovery if they live modestly, assuming
they don't first get another job, not a good assumption.

You know when the "recovery" is coming?  Ain't you the smart one?

You don't have to sit back and do nothing.

The more you work for progress the more insider information you'll
acquire.

Eventually you'll be predicting change for the simple reason you are
causing it.

In sharp contrast, the self employed computer "consultant" who managed
to get by quite well repairing and selling used computers during the
boom years, however, ain't getting no $60K.

If he was "doing well" and self employed, he still should be
working.  

But they aren't working.

Why do you think they keep spamming threads on thermo when they have
never studied the subject?

In any case, he should have been saving, too.

A few might have. The fact is a lot of Americans didn't plan.

The Reaganomics get rick quick with the Gipster ain't working and they
don't know what to do.

Reagan has been dead a while and hasn't been in office for a *long*
while.

But some of his half baked notions still survived, at least until the
meltdown.

This results in a social situation identical to that described by
Studds Terkel in his last interview which should be given much wider
coverage

Bret Cahill


http://www.aarpmagazine.org/money/fear_economy_studs_terkel.html

The Great Depression. I was about 17 years old. Hoover was still
president. People had been living high off the hog. And then, boom,
comes the Crash. It was so sudden. Guys jumped out of windows. They
didn’t know what to do. The wise men ran around, and then they cried
out after Roosevelt for the government to help them out. Regulation.
They asked for it. They cried for it. The wise men were lost, just as
they are today. The free market fell on its fanny. We learned nothing.
It’s exactly the same today.

“The lessons of the Great Depression? Don’t blame yourself. Turn to
others. The big boys are not that bright.”

My mother ran a hotel, the Wells-Grand Hotel, for men, just outside
Chicago’s skid row.

Skilled workers. Mechanics. Guys with jobs here and there. Some
retired. It was fine. The lobby in the hotel was empty in the daytime.
It was just a little room, and at night they’d come play hearts and
pinochle. Then came 1929. Suddenly they’re not working. Or those guys
who retired, suddenly their pensions are gone. Now they’re in the
lobby in the daytime. They don’t know what the hell to do. So they
drank more. And played the horses more. And there were fights. What
were the fights over? Their own self-respect. I mean, they had nothing
to do. They were furious. Who do you blame? Who do you hit? You hit
each other. That was sort of a metaphor for what happened to the
country. They blamed themselves. Yet I met these people who weathered
it one way or the other, some just by lending a hand.


- Studds Terkel

 

[Bret Cahill]

HP lays off engineers by giving them $60K and a trip to La Jolla.
They can then pick up another 20K + in unemployment which will be more
than enough to coast to the recovery if they live modestly, assuming
they don't first get another job, not a good assumption.

You know when the "recovery" is coming?  Ain't you the smart one?

You don't have to sit back and do nothing.

I'm not.  I'm retired and working as many, if not more, hours as I
ever did.

I'm not talking about your own puny interests. I'm talking about
national politics.

The more you work for progress the more insider information you'll
acquire.

I never "used" any insider information I had.  

Obviously you never had any.

Why would I start?

To be sure, you may be uneducable.

Eventually you'll be predicting change for the simple reason you are
causing it.

Maybe,

On the other hand, if you remain rightarded you'll never do anything.

.. . . .

In sharp contrast, the self employed computer "consultant" who managed
to get by quite well repairing and selling used computers during the
boom years, however, ain't getting no $60K.

If he was "doing well" and self employed, he still should be
working.  

But they aren't working.

Why?

The same reason many HP engineers aren't working. The GOP tax cut
recession.

 Business hasn't stopped.  The world still turns.  People
still need computers.

Not like other essentials. Granny lost a lot of dough in the meltdown
and isn't going to waste time with self _un_ employed computer
repairmen.

Moreover, the market is awash in cheap computer equipment. A laptop
costs $200 now. A new HP printer/scanner/copier sells for $24 at
WalMart.

Go down to your local used computer store and ask about business.

Report your findings.

Why do you think they keep spamming threads on thermo when they have
never studied the subject?

Yes, I've thought about that.  Exactly why are you?  

I'm the one _starting_ the thermo threads.

That's _my_ interest.

It's not absolutely necessary to have a degree in engineering or
physics but you must have spent some time in the library or you're
going to look like a dunce trying to fake a background in thermo.

In any case, he should have been saving, too.

A few might have.  The fact is a lot of Americans didn't plan.

Duh!  Ya think?  

You wanted to know why the self _un_employed were posting to threads
that were out of their field.

.. . .

The Reaganomics get rick quick with the Gipster ain't working and they
don't know what to do.

Reagan has been dead a while and hasn't been in office for a *long*
while.

But some of his half baked notions still survived, at least until the
meltdown.

His "half-baked" notions brought us prosperity for 20 years until
the latter-day DemonicRats built their house of cards.

Now the question becomes:

Why can't Repugliars get their message out like the Gipper?

You guys ain't got no dough to buy TV ads?

Why ain't you rightards got no dough? Too lazy to WORK and MAKE some
dough?


Bret Cahill


http://www.aarpmagazine.org/money/fear_economy_studs_terkel.html

The Great Depression. I was about 17 years old. Hoover was still
president. People had been living high off the hog. And then, boom,
comes the Crash. It was so sudden. Guys jumped out of windows. They
didn’t know what to do. The wise men ran around, and then they cried
out after Roosevelt for the government to help them out. Regulation.
They asked for it. They cried for it. The wise men were lost, just as
they are today. The free market fell on its fanny. We learned nothing.
It’s exactly the same today.

“The lessons of the Great Depression? Don’t blame yourself. Turn to
others. The big boys are not that bright.”

My mother ran a hotel, the Wells-Grand Hotel, for men, just outside
Chicago’s skid row.

Skilled workers. Mechanics. Guys with jobs here and there. Some
retired. It was fine. The lobby in the hotel was empty in the daytime.
It was just a little room, and at night they’d come play hearts and
pinochle. Then came 1929. Suddenly they’re not working. Or those guys
who retired, suddenly their pensions are gone. Now they’re in the
lobby in the daytime. They don’t know what the hell to do. So they
drank more. And played the horses more. And there were fights. What
were the fights over? Their own self-respect. I mean, they had nothing
to do. They were furious. Who do you blame? Who do you hit? You hit
each other. That was sort of a metaphor for what happened to the
country. They blamed themselves. Yet I met these people who weathered
it one way or the other, some just by lending a hand.


-- Studds Terkel

 

[krw]

In article <77d07198-12f2-48c2-b180-c1647ea90444
@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, BretCahill@aol.com says...>

HP lays off engineers by giving them $60K and a trip to La Jolla.
They can then pick up another 20K + in unemployment which will be more
than enough to coast to the recovery if they live modestly, assuming
they don't first get another job, not a good assumption.

You know when the "recovery" is coming?  Ain't you the smart one?

You don't have to sit back and do nothing.

I'm not.  I'm retired and working as many, if not more, hours as I
ever did.

I'm not talking about your own puny interests. I'm talking about
national politics.

Oh, I thought a pool steno would know something about the English
language. Sorry for overestimating your skill.

The more you work for progress the more insider information you'll
acquire.

I never "used" any insider information I had.  

Obviously you never had any.

Obviously you know nothing. You advertise that fact continuously
here.

Why would I start?

To be sure, you may be uneducable.

No, honest, something your mother obviously overlooked.

Eventually you'll be predicting change for the simple reason you are
causing it.

Maybe,

On the other hand, if you remain rightarded you'll never do anything.

Leftist weenies sure like to lie, don't you.

. . . .


In sharp contrast, the self employed computer "consultant" who managed
to get by quite well repairing and selling used computers during the
boom years, however, ain't getting no $60K.

If he was "doing well" and self employed, he still should be
working.  

But they aren't working.

Why?

The same reason many HP engineers aren't working. The GOP tax cut
recession.

Why are you such an idiot? How many errors can you pack into one
two-sentence paragraph?

 Business hasn't stopped.  The world still turns.  People
still need computers.

Not like other essentials. Granny lost a lot of dough in the meltdown
and isn't going to waste time with self _un_ employed computer
repairmen.

No one repairs computers, ditz. If that's all "they" did, it's
surprising "they" were ever "getting by quite well". Maybe "they"
can't even compete with the dummies with beetles.

Moreover, the market is awash in cheap computer equipment. A laptop
costs $200 now. A new HP printer/scanner/copier sells for $24 at
WalMart.

....and that's a bad thing? Only a leftist loon would consider
lower costs a negative.

Go down to your local used computer store and ask about business.

Report your findings.

Why? That market was dead more than a decade ago. If "they're"
too dumb to see the handwriting, I certainly have no pity for
"them".

Why do you think they keep spamming threads on thermo when they have
never studied the subject?

Yes, I've thought about that.  Exactly why are you?  

I'm the one _starting_ the thermo threads.

Why don't you study some thermo first? Others here have.

That's _my_ interest.

Your only interest here is fishing. It's been long known that
fish bite better during holidays so the fact that the are more
drunk trolls isn't at all surprising.

It's not absolutely necessary to have a degree in engineering or
physics but you must have spent some time in the library or you're
going to look like a dunce trying to fake a background in thermo.

Again, that depends on your definition of "you".

In any case, he should have been saving, too.

A few might have.  The fact is a lot of Americans didn't plan.

Duh!  Ya think?  

You wanted to know why the self _un_employed were posting to threads
that were out of their field.

....says the pool steno? Wow, what a stinking pile of PKB!

The Reaganomics get rick quick with the Gipster ain't working and they
don't know what to do.

Reagan has been dead a while and hasn't been in office for a *long*
while.

But some of his half baked notions still survived, at least until the
meltdown.

His "half-baked" notions brought us prosperity for 20 years until
the latter-day DemonicRats built their house of cards.

Now the question becomes:

Why can't Repugliars get their message out like the Gipper?

Good question. Maybe because the Gipper was a once-in-a-lifetime
person. Greatness is rare. Of course the press doesn't help. The
truly competent have no need for such treatment.

You guys ain't got no dough to buy TV ads?

Yeah. We'd never be able to reach you without the TeeVee.

Why ain't you rightards got no dough? Too lazy to WORK and MAKE some
dough?

Take a look at who gives the most. It surely ain't Obama bin Biden
and the losers who voted for him.

<once again, plagiarism snipped>

 

[Bret Cahill]

HP lays off engineers by giving them $60K and a trip to La Jolla.
They can then pick up another 20K + in unemployment which will be more
than enough to coast to the recovery if they live modestly, assuming
they don't first get another job, not a good assumption.

You know when the "recovery" is coming? �Ain't you the smart one?

You don't have to sit back and do nothing.

I'm not. �I'm retired and working as many, if not more, hours as I
ever did.

I'm not talking about your own puny interests. �I'm talking about
national politics.

Oh, I thought

Must be painful for a rightard to think.

Not to be cruel/sadistic but what do you think will save the GOP from
their tax cut recession?

What is the rightard plan to get back into power?

.. . . .

The more you work for progress the more insider information you'll
acquire.

I never "used" any insider information I had. ďż˝

Obviously you never had any.

Obviously

.. . ..

Why would I start?

To be sure, you may be uneducable.

No, honest

But you lie to yourself about the future of the GOP.

.. . .

Eventually you'll be predicting change for the simple reason you are
causing it.

Maybe,

On the other hand, if you remain rightarded you'll never do anything.

Leftist weenies sure like to lie, don't you.

Again, what's the rightard plan to get back into power?

Another patriotic quagmire?

.. . .

In sharp contrast, the self employed computer "consultant" who managed
to get by quite well repairing and selling used computers during the
boom years, however, ain't getting no $60K.

If he was "doing well" and self employed, he still should be
working. ďż˝

But they aren't working.

Why?

The same reason many HP engineers aren't working. �The GOP tax cut
recession.

Why are you such an idiot?

OK, smarty pants. How are Repugliars planning to get back into power?

How many errors can you pack into one
two-sentence paragraph?

You deny the high tax Clinton economic boom as well.

�Business hasn't stopped. �The world still turns. �People
still need computers.

Not like other essentials. �Granny lost a lot of dough in the meltdown
and isn't going to waste time with self _un_ employed computer
repairmen.

No one repairs computers, ditz.

You just exposed the frauds who were fantasizing about sueing me for
defamation!

�If that's all "they" did, it's
surprising "they" were ever "getting by quite well". ďż˝

True but that's no reason to be a spoil sport and _say_ it.

Maybe "they"
can't even compete with the dummies with beetles.

They give 'em computers to post here keep 'em off the streets.

Moreover, the market is awash in cheap computer equipment. �A laptop
costs $200 now. �A new HP printer/scanner/copier sells for $24 at
WalMart.

...and that's a bad thing? ďż˝

If you are a self _un_employed computer "consultant."

.. . .

Go down to your local used computer store and ask about business.

Report your findings.

Why? �That market was dead more than a decade ago. �If "they're"
too dumb to see the handwriting, I certainly have no pity for
"them".

Spoil sport.


.. . .

It's not absolutely necessary to have a degree in engineering or
physics but you must have spent some time in the library or you're
going to look like a dunce trying to fake a background in thermo.

Again, that depends on your definition of "you".

One day you are going to ask a judge for the definition of "jail" and
he'll do better than a definition.

In any case, he should have been saving, too.

A few might have. �The fact is a lot of Americans didn't plan.

Duh! �Ya think? �

You wanted to know why the self _un_employed were posting to threads
that were out of their field.

...says the pool steno?

Are you educated enough to know why the statement "adiabatic engines
might be difficult to scale up" is so stoopid?

Unless you ask an engineer you won't know why it's so stoopid.

Wow, what a stinking pile of PKB!

You really think rightards can get back into power with arguments like
that?

The Reaganomics get rick quick with the Gipster ain't working and they
don't know what to do.

Reagan has been dead a while and hasn't been in office for a *long*
while.

But some of his half baked notions still survived, at least until the
meltdown.

His "half-baked" notions brought us prosperity for 20 years until
the latter-day DemonicRats built their house of cards.

Now the question becomes:

Why can't Repugliars get their message out like the Gipper?

Good question. �Maybe because the Gipper was a once-in-a-lifetime
person. ďż˝

On the other hand, maybe he merely reflected a once in a lifetime
situation.

Greatness is rare. ďż˝

At one time rightards were talking about a memorial on the Mall.

Now FDR is a more likely candidate.

Of course the press doesn't help. �The
truly competent have no need for such treatment.

That explains why Jimmy Carter's approval rating passed that of the
Gipster 2 decades ago.

You guys ain't got no dough to buy TV ads?

Yeah. �We'd never be able to reach you without the TeeVee.

Not directly but I hear about GOP bottom fishing on newsgroups.

Why ain't you rightards got no dough? �Too lazy to WORK and MAKE some
dough?

Take a look at who gives the most. �It surely ain't Obama bin Biden
and the losers who voted for him.

Then why can't you get anyone to believe in the Gipper anymore?

That Gipper could really salute!


Bret Cahill

 

[krw]

In article <c46bdcde-ff4c-4e20-937a-f57206e726f2
@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, BretCahill@aol.com says...>

HP lays off engineers by giving them $60K and a trip to La Jolla.
They can then pick up another 20K + in unemployment which will be more
than enough to coast to the recovery if they live modestly, assuming
they don't first get another job, not a good assumption.

You know when the "recovery" is coming? ?Ain't you the smart one?

You don't have to sit back and do nothing.

I'm not. ?I'm retired and working as many, if not more, hours as I
ever did.

I'm not talking about your own puny interests. ?I'm talking about
national politics.

Oh, I thought

Must be painful for a rightard to think.

Thinking is often hard work, though rewarding. You should try it
sometime. It sure beats your leftist weenie whining and loser's
lying.

Not to be cruel/sadistic but what do you think will save the GOP from
their tax cut recession?

Evidently Obama bin Biden and the rest of the leftists in power are
going to try loser give-aways and even larger deficits. That
should make you happy.

What is the rightard plan to get back into power?

Wait until the masses figure out they've been had. It won't take
two years.

The more you work for progress the more insider information you'll
acquire.

I never "used" any insider information I had. ?

Obviously you never had any.

Obviously

. . ..

No answer, though recognized, obviously.

Why would I start?

To be sure, you may be uneducable.

No, honest

But you lie to yourself about the future of the GOP.

Why wouldn't you lie? You've had quite a bit of practice.

. . .

Eventually you'll be predicting change for the simple reason you are
causing it.

Maybe,

On the other hand, if you remain rightarded you'll never do anything.

Leftist weenies sure like to lie, don't you.

Again, what's the rightard plan to get back into power?

I told you. I can't help it if you're illiterate, as well as
innumerate, like all leftist weenies.

Another patriotic quagmire?

The only quagmire here is on your shoulders.

. . .

In sharp contrast, the self employed computer "consultant" who managed
to get by quite well repairing and selling used computers during the
boom years, however, ain't getting no $60K.

If he was "doing well" and self employed, he still should be
working. ?

But they aren't working.

Why?

The same reason many HP engineers aren't working. ?The GOP tax cut
recession.

Why are you such an idiot?

OK, smarty pants. How are Repugliars planning to get back into power?

I've told you but you can't read. <shrug>

How many errors can you pack into one
two-sentence paragraph?

You deny the high tax Clinton economic boom as well.

Yeah, the .bomb was just wonderful.

?Business hasn't stopped. ?The world still turns. ?People
still need computers.

Not like other essentials. ?Granny lost a lot of dough in the meltdown
and isn't going to waste time with self _un_ employed computer
repairmen.

No one repairs computers, ditz.

You just exposed the frauds who were fantasizing about sueing me for
defamation!

You fantasize a lot, don't you? Do you ever actually *do*
anything?

?If that's all "they" did, it's
surprising "they" were ever "getting by quite well". ?

True but that's no reason to be a spoil sport and _say_ it.

It's your fantasy. You say it.

Maybe "they"
can't even compete with the dummies with beetles.

They give 'em computers to post here keep 'em off the streets.

Who is "they" in this fantasy?

Moreover, the market is awash in cheap computer equipment. ?A laptop
costs $200 now. ?A new HP printer/scanner/copier sells for $24 at
WalMart.

...and that's a bad thing? ?

If you are a self _un_employed computer "consultant."

....and if you happen to be a buggy whip technician?

Go down to your local used computer store and ask about business.

Report your findings.

Why? ?That market was dead more than a decade ago. ?If "they're"
too dumb to see the handwriting, I certainly have no pity for
"them".

Spoil sport.

Conservatives tend to be realists, yes.

. . .

It's not absolutely necessary to have a degree in engineering or
physics but you must have spent some time in the library or you're
going to look like a dunce trying to fake a background in thermo.

Again, that depends on your definition of "you".

One day you are going to ask a judge for the definition of "jail" and
he'll do better than a definition.

No, I'm asking *you* (second person, singular). I've fond that
it's quite easy to stay out of jail. I have no worries.

In any case, he should have been saving, too.

A few might have. ?The fact is a lot of Americans didn't plan.

Duh! ?Ya think? ?

You wanted to know why the self _un_employed were posting to threads
that were out of their field.

...says the pool steno?

Are you educated enough to know why the statement "adiabatic engines
might be difficult to scale up" is so stoopid?

It's not, but why do I care? It's *your* fantasy.

Unless you ask an engineer you won't know why it's so stoopid.

I am an engineer, stoopid.

Wow, what a stinking pile of PKB!

You really think rightards can get back into power with arguments like
that?

PKB? No, that's your forte.

The Reaganomics get rick quick with the Gipster ain't working and they
don't know what to do.

Reagan has been dead a while and hasn't been in office for a *long*
while.

But some of his half baked notions still survived, at least until the
meltdown.

His "half-baked" notions brought us prosperity for 20 years until
the latter-day DemonicRats built their house of cards.

Now the question becomes:

Why can't Repugliars get their message out like the Gipper?

Good question. ?Maybe because the Gipper was a once-in-a-lifetime
person. ?

On the other hand, maybe he merely reflected a once in a lifetime
situation.

Leftist caused malaise? Misery index? Nope. We're going to see
that all again soon. ...best case.

Greatness is rare. ?

At one time rightards were talking about a memorial on the Mall.

I'd go for a $500 note, but that's me.

Now FDR is a more likely candidate.

If Obama bin Biden is another FDR we'll see another 15 year
depression, yes. BTW, Clinton already has dibs on the $3 bill.

Of course the press doesn't help. ?The
truly competent have no need for such treatment.

That explains why Jimmy Carter's approval rating passed that of the
Gipster 2 decades ago.

People were quite happy when "malaise" Carter left office, sure.

You guys ain't got no dough to buy TV ads?

Yeah. ?We'd never be able to reach you without the TeeVee.

Not directly but I hear about GOP bottom fishing on newsgroups.

No, you're the troll here. We're just little fishies playing with
your line so you think you're someone special.

Why ain't you rightards got no dough? ?Too lazy to WORK and MAKE some
dough?

Take a look at who gives the most. ?It surely ain't Obama bin Biden
and the losers who voted for him.

Then why can't you get anyone to believe in the Gipper anymore?

Um, he's dead?

That Gipper could really salute!

Yes, those who served under him did like him, unlike Clinton.
....but wait until they get a taste of Obama bin Biden.

 

[Eeyore]

Bret Cahill wrote:

HP lays off engineers by giving them $60K and a trip to La Jolla.
They can then pick up another 20K + in unemployment which will be more
than enough to coast to the recovery if they live modestly, assuming
they don't first get another job, not a good assumption.

It's at times like these I bless my Ł5,000 mortgage. And some decent
connections.

Graham

 

[Bret Cahill]

HP lays off engineers by giving them $60K and a trip to La Jolla.
They can then pick up another 20K + in unemployment which will be more
than enough to coast to the recovery if they live modestly, assuming
they don't first get another job, not a good assumption.

It's at times like these I bless my �5,000 mortgage.

�5,000 = $250,000 Dumbya dollars.


Bret Cahill

 

[Peter BP]

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:19:10 -0800, Bret Cahill wrote:

That critical mass is gone and so is Reaganomics.

Why are you so monomaniacally obsessed with that concept?

Bret, you look like one of the Kansas fundies who can only ascribe the
evils of the world to one or two things, the Devil and promiscuity, only
substitute one of the former with "Reaganomics" (which, btw, to those
educated enough in history and economics was little more than military
Keynesianism).

 

[Bret Cahill]

Must be painful for a rightard to think.

Thinking is often hard work,

Lazy thinking about not having any talking points left isn't hard
work.

It's denial.

though rewarding. �You should try it
sometime. �It sure beats your leftist weenie whining and loser's
lying.

News flash: Obama won. Rightards lost.

Now when you come out of your state of denial, remember to spree
local. Only shoot up the double wide.

Not to be cruel/sadistic but what do you think will save the GOP from
their tax cut recession?

Evidently Obama bin Biden and the rest of the leftists in power are
going to try loser give-aways and even larger deficits. �That
should make you happy.

No, I believe another high tax economic boom like under Clinton would
be better.

What is the rightard plan to get back into power?

Wait until the masses figure out they've been had. �It won't take
two years.

You said that 2 years ago when Repugliars lost congress.

.. . .

Again, what's the rightard plan to get back into power?

I told you.

Sit back and wait for rightardopia to break out?

Isn't that the Libertarian Party action plan?

.. . .

Conservatives tend to be realists, yes.

So what's the realistic way for rightards to get back into power?


.. . .

Are you educated enough to know why the statement "adiabatic engines
might be difficult to scale up" is so stoopid?

It's not,

So not only are you clueless about how rightards plan to get back into
political power, you are clueless as to thermo as well.

.. . .

Unless you ask an engineer you won't know why it's so stoopid.

I am an engineer, stoopid.

Now every one who's had thermo now knows you ain't never taken thermo.

Not with a mistake like THAT.

You're another dunce fraud.

.. . .

Greatness is rare. ?

At one time rightards were talking about a memorial on the Mall.

I'd go for a $500 note,

Ain't gonna happen. Gippernomics is on the ash heap of history.

but that's me.

And everyone knows yer a rightard, a group that gets smaller every
election.


.. . .

That explains why Jimmy Carter's approval rating passed that of the
Gipster 2 decades ago.

People were quite happy when "malaise" Carter left office, sure.

Jimmy Carter's approval rating passed that of the Gipster 2 decades
ago and has increased ever since.

You guys ain't got no dough to buy TV ads?

Yeah. ?We'd never be able to reach you without the TeeVee.

Not directly but I hear about GOP bottom fishing on newsgroups.

No, you're the troll here. ďż˝

That doesn't mean I don't hear about GOP bottom fishing here.

You know, patriotic quagmires, fundies, gun nutters and other
rightarded votes.


.. . .

Why ain't you rightards got no dough? ?Too lazy to WORK and MAKE some
dough?

Take a look at who gives the most. ?It surely ain't Obama bin Biden
and the losers who voted for him.

Then why can't you get anyone to believe in the Gipper anymore?

Um, he's dead?

So the Gipper never had a message like Jefferson, Lincoln and FDR?

Small wonder the Hollywood actor ain't gettin' no memorial on the
Mall!

That Gipper could really salute!

Yes,

Let's all salute the Gipper!


Bret Cahill

 

[Bret Cahill]

That critical mass is gone and so is Reaganomics.

Why are you so monomaniacally obsessed with that concept?

13 figures a year in income and civil liberties for starters.

It's also important to give fair warning to rightards that the scam is
over so that they won't go on so many shooting sprees.

Why are you clicking on threads on issues which you cannot comprehend?


Bret Cahill

 

[Peter BP]

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:31:54 -0800, Bret Cahill wrote:

That critical mass is gone and so is Reaganomics.

Why are you so monomaniacally obsessed with that concept?

13 figures a year in income and civil liberties for starters.

I have my doubts if you care about civil liberties, when you obviously
don't even know the meaning of the concepts you throw into the air.

It's also important to give fair warning to rightards that the scam is
over so that they won't go on so many shooting sprees.

Since when was constant insults and inability to properly debate the
things being debated, both shown above, "a fair warning"?

Why are you clicking on threads on issues which you cannot comprehend?


Bret Cahill

Nevermind. I should have know it was a waste of time to respond to your
verbiage.

As for 'comprehension', isn't that a big word to use for someone whose #1
vocabulary term is "rightard"?

 

[Bret Cahill]

That critical mass is gone and so is Reaganomics.

Why are you so monomaniacally obsessed with that concept?

13 figures a year in income and civil liberties for starters.

I have my doubts if you care about civil liberties,

If you understood civil liberties you'ld know why it was always 100%
certain Reaganism would end up on the ash heap of history.


Bret Cahill

 

[krw]

In article <472dnYqxgd5MuP_UnZ2dnUVZ8uidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
joe@somewhere.org says...>

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:31:54 -0800, Bret Cahill wrote:

That critical mass is gone and so is Reaganomics.

Why are you so monomaniacally obsessed with that concept?

13 figures a year in income and civil liberties for starters.

I have my doubts if you care about civil liberties, when you obviously
don't even know the meaning of the concepts you throw into the air.


It's also important to give fair warning to rightards that the scam is
over so that they won't go on so many shooting sprees.

Since when was constant insults and inability to properly debate the
things being debated, both shown above, "a fair warning"?


Why are you clicking on threads on issues which you cannot comprehend?


Bret Cahill

Nevermind. I should have know it was a waste of time to respond to your
verbiage.

It is. Killfile him and be done with it.

As for 'comprehension', isn't that a big word to use for someone whose #1
vocabulary term is "rightard"?

 

On Jan 2, 3:52 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:

HP lays off engineers by giving them $60K and a trip to La Jolla.
They can then pick up another 20K + in unemployment which will be more
than enough to coast to the recovery if they live modestly, assuming
they don't first get another job, not a good assumption.

An overlooked solution to the "problem": earn an engineering degree.

Michael

 

On Jan 5, 4:28 pm, mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Jan 2, 3:52 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:

HP lays off engineers by giving them $60K and a trip to La Jolla.
They can then pick up another 20K + in unemployment which will be more
than enough to coast to the recovery if they live modestly, assuming
they don't first get another job, not a good assumption.

An overlooked solution to the "problem": earn an engineering degree.

Michael

Just thought of a recession-proof field: medicine. Duh. If med
school is too tough for you (memorizing enzymatic pathways wasn't my
strong point either) go for nursing.

Michael