Silly question, fuel cells available?

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dg

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I really know very little about fuel cells, but I am sure somebody here
does. Is there any sort of butane fuel cell or similar that is available
for a hobbyist to experiment with? The thought of a refillable butane fuel
cell for my RC car is really neat. All the runtime of a gas engine powered
vehicle, all the gadgetry to satisfy me electronic interest. Any info is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
--Dan
 
dg wrote:

I really know very little about fuel cells, but I am sure somebody here
does. Is there any sort of butane fuel cell or similar that is available
for a hobbyist to experiment with? The thought of a refillable butane fuel
cell for my RC car is really neat. All the runtime of a gas engine powered
vehicle, all the gadgetry to satisfy me electronic interest. Any info is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
--Dan
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For fuel cells in general, try the NG alt.solar.photovoltaic.

If you're interested in a car with electric drive, consider a Toyota Prius.


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I was thinking more along the lines of a 1:10 scale Radio Controlled (RC)
car. There have been rumors of Butane fuel cells for laptops for quite some
time. I was just thinking of how sweet it would be to just recharge my RC
car with a can of butane from the grocery store. Just a dream.

--Dan


"Lizard Blizzard" <NOSPAM@rsccd.org> wrote in message
news:bm7evb$4ck50$2@hades.csu.net...
dg wrote:

I really know very little about fuel cells, but I am sure somebody here
does. Is there any sort of butane fuel cell or similar that is
available
for a hobbyist to experiment with? The thought of a refillable butane
fuel
cell for my RC car is really neat. All the runtime of a gas engine
powered
vehicle, all the gadgetry to satisfy me electronic interest. Any info
is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
--Dan

For fuel cells in general, try the NG alt.solar.photovoltaic.

If you're interested in a car with electric drive, consider a Toyota
Prius.
Click to expand...
 
"dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I was thinking more along the lines of a 1:10 scale Radio Controlled (RC)
car. There have been rumors of Butane fuel cells for laptops for quite
some
time. I was just thinking of how sweet it would be to just recharge my RC
car with a can of butane from the grocery store. Just a dream.

--Dan
They are available. The problem is the price. Currently about Ł2000...
Click to expand...
The units require a special fuel (not butane), and the 'refills' are about
Ł50, and give a few hours of use. At present the 'market', would be people
going to sites where power is not available.
For something 'reasonably priced', consider building a butane powered
external combustion engine, and running the car off this.

"Lizard Blizzard" <NOSPAM@rsccd.org> wrote in message
news:bm7evb$4ck50$2@hades.csu.net...
dg wrote:

I really know very little about fuel cells, but I am sure somebody
here
does. Is there any sort of butane fuel cell or similar that is
available
for a hobbyist to experiment with? The thought of a refillable butane
fuel
cell for my RC car is really neat. All the runtime of a gas engine
powered
vehicle, all the gadgetry to satisfy me electronic interest. Any info
is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
--Dan

For fuel cells in general, try the NG alt.solar.photovoltaic.

If you're interested in a car with electric drive, consider a Toyota
Prius.
Click to expand...
Best Wishes
 
Thanks for the info. Just for kicks, where would I spend my Ł2000 on a fuel
cell and what type of fuel are we talking? I can't even consider using an
IC engine in my models, I choose electric because its more fun for me if I
can tune the car electrically with high quality wires/connectors, good
electric motor maintenance, high tech speed controls, yada yada. So when I
asked about the fuel cells it wasn't really to solve a battery problem or
anything like that, it was just to take things up another level in high
tech. Although I can't afford to, Ł2000 doesn't seem like all that much
when it comes to somebody custom building a hobby project-especially if
nobody in the world has ever done it before. It would be too cool.

--Dan


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"dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I was thinking more along the lines of a 1:10 scale Radio Controlled
(RC)
car. There have been rumors of Butane fuel cells for laptops for quite
some
time. I was just thinking of how sweet it would be to just recharge my
RC
car with a can of butane from the grocery store. Just a dream.

--Dan
They are available. The problem is the price. Currently about Ł2000...
The units require a special fuel (not butane), and the 'refills' are about
Ł50, and give a few hours of use. At present the 'market', would be people
going to sites where power is not available.
For something 'reasonably priced', consider building a butane powered
external combustion engine, and running the car off this.
Click to expand...
 
"dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<news:Mc1ib.13763$Pu7.2424@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>:
"Roger Hamlett" <rogerspamignored@ttelmah.demon.co.uk> wrote in
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They are available. The problem is the price. Currently about
Ł2000... The units require a special fuel (not butane), and the
'refills' are about Ł50, and give a few hours of use.
snip
For something 'reasonably priced', consider building a butane powered
external combustion engine, and running the car off this.

Thanks for the info. Just for kicks, where would I spend my Ł2000 on
a fuel cell and what type of fuel are we talking? I can't even
consider using an IC engine in my models,
snip
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IC? Wait a minute Dan, Roger said EXTERNAL combustion! Rocket engine???
Not that it would be any quieter than a glo-fuel or other piston
engine...

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In article <h7Whb.454$lR3.92740856@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
dan_gus@hotmail.com mentioned...
I was thinking more along the lines of a 1:10 scale Radio Controlled (RC)
car. There have been rumors of Butane fuel cells for laptops for quite some
time. I was just thinking of how sweet it would be to just recharge my RC
car with a can of butane from the grocery store. Just a dream.
Click to expand...
My guess is that if we haven't seen fuel cells in full-sized vehicles,
then there's a very high probability that we won't see them in models,
either. For the same reasons that they haven't made it into any of
the full-sized vehicles. Pick one of the following reasons:
Efficiency; Safety; Weight; Fuel storage problems; etc.


--Dan


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dg wrote:

I really know very little about fuel cells, but I am sure somebody here
does. Is there any sort of butane fuel cell or similar that is
available
for a hobbyist to experiment with? The thought of a refillable butane
fuel
cell for my RC car is really neat. All the runtime of a gas engine
powered
vehicle, all the gadgetry to satisfy me electronic interest. Any info
is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
--Dan

For fuel cells in general, try the NG alt.solar.photovoltaic.

If you're interested in a car with electric drive, consider a Toyota
Prius.
Click to expand...
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They are available. The problem is the price. Currently about
Ł2000... The units require a special fuel (not butane), and the
'refills' are about Ł50, and give a few hours of use.
snip
For something 'reasonably priced', consider building a butane powered
external combustion engine, and running the car off this.

Thanks for the info. Just for kicks, where would I spend my Ł2000 on
a fuel cell and what type of fuel are we talking? I can't even
consider using an IC engine in my models,
snip

IC? Wait a minute Dan, Roger said EXTERNAL combustion! Rocket engine???
Not that it would be any quieter than a glo-fuel or other piston
engine...
I was thinking of something like the Stirling engine, which in it's more
Click to expand...
sophisticated forms, is being used for power systems for enviroments ranging
from boats, through to units being fitted in space craft.
I built a Stirling engine, based on the 'Rhombic drive; some years ago, and
while this involved a lot of machining, it did make a lovely engine.
The fuel cell systems to power laptops, have just been announced in a couple
of press releases in the UK. No mention is made of what the fuel actually
is, just the refill price.

Best Wishes
 
In article <%XXhb.1166$LU3.425@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net>,
rogerspamignored@ttelmah.demon.co.uk mentioned...
"dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I was thinking more along the lines of a 1:10 scale Radio Controlled (RC)
car. There have been rumors of Butane fuel cells for laptops for quite
some
time. I was just thinking of how sweet it would be to just recharge my RC
car with a can of butane from the grocery store. Just a dream.

--Dan
They are available. The problem is the price. Currently about Ł2000...
The units require a special fuel (not butane), and the 'refills' are about
Ł50, and give a few hours of use. At present the 'market', would be people
going to sites where power is not available.
For something 'reasonably priced', consider building a butane powered
external combustion engine, and running the car off this.
^^^^^^^^
Click to expand...

Meaning steam engine? That's an external combustion engine. Cool!
An R/C steam engine without any RR tracks!

Reminds me of the time I was going to work and had to stop at the RR
crossing. Lights flashing and the gate arms come down, and what goes
by? A pickup truck! :p



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dg wrote:

I really know very little about fuel cells, but I am sure somebody
here
does. Is there any sort of butane fuel cell or similar that is
available
for a hobbyist to experiment with? The thought of a refillable butane
fuel
cell for my RC car is really neat. All the runtime of a gas engine
powered
vehicle, all the gadgetry to satisfy me electronic interest. Any info
is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
--Dan

For fuel cells in general, try the NG alt.solar.photovoltaic.

If you're interested in a car with electric drive, consider a Toyota
Prius.

Best Wishes
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In article <Mc1ib.13763$Pu7.2424@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>,
dan_gus@hotmail.com mentioned...
Thanks for the info. Just for kicks, where would I spend my Ł2000 on a fuel
cell and what type of fuel are we talking? I can't even consider using an
IC engine in my models, I choose electric because its more fun for me if I
can tune the car electrically with high quality wires/connectors, good
electric motor maintenance, high tech speed controls, yada yada. So when I
asked about the fuel cells it wasn't really to solve a battery problem or
anything like that, it was just to take things up another level in high
tech. Although I can't afford to, Ł2000 doesn't seem like all that much
when it comes to somebody custom building a hobby project-especially if
nobody in the world has ever done it before. It would be too cool.
Click to expand...
Cool, until you run into a lamppost in the parking lot. There goes
two grand! ^$^


--Dan


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"dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I was thinking more along the lines of a 1:10 scale Radio Controlled
(RC)
car. There have been rumors of Butane fuel cells for laptops for quite
some
time. I was just thinking of how sweet it would be to just recharge my
RC
car with a can of butane from the grocery store. Just a dream.

--Dan
They are available. The problem is the price. Currently about Ł2000...
The units require a special fuel (not butane), and the 'refills' are about
Ł50, and give a few hours of use. At present the 'market', would be people
going to sites where power is not available.
For something 'reasonably priced', consider building a butane powered
external combustion engine, and running the car off this.
Click to expand...

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In article <%XXhb.1166$LU3.425@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net>,
rogerspamignored@ttelmah.demon.co.uk mentioned...

"dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I was thinking more along the lines of a 1:10 scale Radio Controlled
(RC)
car. There have been rumors of Butane fuel cells for laptops for
quite
some
time. I was just thinking of how sweet it would be to just recharge
my RC
car with a can of butane from the grocery store. Just a dream.

--Dan
They are available. The problem is the price. Currently about Ł2000...
The units require a special fuel (not butane), and the 'refills' are
about
Ł50, and give a few hours of use. At present the 'market', would be
people
going to sites where power is not available.
For something 'reasonably priced', consider building a butane powered
external combustion engine, and running the car off this.
^^^^^^^^

Meaning steam engine? That's an external combustion engine. Cool!
An R/C steam engine without any RR tracks!
No steam.
Click to expand...
The Stirling, is a pure thermal engine. The simplest form, can be built very
easily (a couple of tin cans, and a simple crank). The basic form works by
shifting the 'working' gas, into the hot cylinder, where it expands,
increasing in volume, and creating pressure on the 'working' cylinder. The
two motions (thrust, and displacement), have to be 90 degrees out of phase.
The rhombic drive version, uses a single cylinder, with the work piston at
the bottom, and the displacer piston moving up and down in the same
cylinder. The cylinder is hot at one end, and cool at the other. The
displacer, is filled with a material, which improves efficiency, by cooling
the transfered gas in one direction, and heating it as it moves the other
way. With careful design of the displacer (sophisticated ceramics), and
selection of the working gas, the units offer very good efficiencies, but
tend not to 'throttle' well. This makes them ideal for generator
applications, but not as direct motors for applications like cars.

Reminds me of the time I was going to work and had to stop at the RR
crossing. Lights flashing and the gate arms come down, and what goes
by? A pickup truck! :p
:)
Click to expand...

"Lizard Blizzard" <NOSPAM@rsccd.org> wrote in message
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dg wrote:

I really know very little about fuel cells, but I am sure somebody
here
does. Is there any sort of butane fuel cell or similar that is
available
for a hobbyist to experiment with? The thought of a refillable
butane
fuel
cell for my RC car is really neat. All the runtime of a gas
engine
powered
vehicle, all the gadgetry to satisfy me electronic interest. Any
info
is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
--Dan

For fuel cells in general, try the NG alt.solar.photovoltaic.

If you're interested in a car with electric drive, consider a Toyota
Prius.
Click to expand...
Best Wishes
 
Stirling engines are also really cool, I saw a show on TV with that guy who
made the Segway scooter, he is big on the stirling engines. When I read
your post about an "external" combustion engine, I was reading it as "an IC
engine external to the car, which would turn a generator and charge
batteries".

--Dan

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"Roger Hamlett" <rogerspamignored@ttelmah.demon.co.uk> wrote in
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They are available. The problem is the price. Currently about
Ł2000... The units require a special fuel (not butane), and the
'refills' are about Ł50, and give a few hours of use.
snip
For something 'reasonably priced', consider building a butane powered
external combustion engine, and running the car off this.

Thanks for the info. Just for kicks, where would I spend my Ł2000 on
a fuel cell and what type of fuel are we talking? I can't even
consider using an IC engine in my models,
snip

IC? Wait a minute Dan, Roger said EXTERNAL combustion! Rocket engine???
Not that it would be any quieter than a glo-fuel or other piston
engine...
I was thinking of something like the Stirling engine, which in it's more
sophisticated forms, is being used for power systems for enviroments
ranging
from boats, through to units being fitted in space craft.
I built a Stirling engine, based on the 'Rhombic drive; some years ago,
and
while this involved a lot of machining, it did make a lovely engine.
The fuel cell systems to power laptops, have just been announced in a
couple
of press releases in the UK. No mention is made of what the fuel actually
is, just the refill price.

Best Wishes
Click to expand...
 
In article <MPG.19f3356147fe9c989788@news.dslextreme.com>, Watson A.
Name - Watt Sun <alondra101@hotmail.com> writes
In article <h7Whb.454$lR3.92740856@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
dan_gus@hotmail.com mentioned...
I was thinking more along the lines of a 1:10 scale Radio Controlled (RC)
car. There have been rumors of Butane fuel cells for laptops for quite some
time. I was just thinking of how sweet it would be to just recharge my RC
car with a can of butane from the grocery store. Just a dream.

My guess is that if we haven't seen fuel cells in full-sized vehicles,
then there's a very high probability that we won't see them in models,
either. For the same reasons that they haven't made it into any of
the full-sized vehicles. Pick one of the following reasons:
Efficiency; Safety; Weight; Fuel storage problems; etc.


--Dan


"Lizard Blizzard" <NOSPAM@rsccd.org> wrote in message
news:bm7evb$4ck50$2@hades.csu.net...
dg wrote:

I really know very little about fuel cells, but I am sure somebody here
does. Is there any sort of butane fuel cell or similar that is
available
for a hobbyist to experiment with? The thought of a refillable butane
fuel
cell for my RC car is really neat. All the runtime of a gas engine
powered
vehicle, all the gadgetry to satisfy me electronic interest. Any info
is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
--Dan

For fuel cells in general, try the NG alt.solar.photovoltaic.

If you're interested in a car with electric drive, consider a Toyota
Prius.

I think the Prius and other hybrids are the way to have big car
Click to expand...
performance and weight as well as super fuel economy. The increased
complexity becomes more attractive as fuel costs rise.
--
ddwyer
 
In article <49Cu3LAIswi$EwQh@ddwyer.demon.co.uk>,
dd@ddwyer.demon.co.uk mentioned...
In article <MPG.19f3356147fe9c989788@news.dslextreme.com>, Watson A.
Name - Watt Sun <alondra101@hotmail.com> writes
In article <h7Whb.454$lR3.92740856@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
dan_gus@hotmail.com mentioned...
I was thinking more along the lines of a 1:10 scale Radio Controlled (RC)
car. There have been rumors of Butane fuel cells for laptops for quite some
time. I was just thinking of how sweet it would be to just recharge my RC
car with a can of butane from the grocery store. Just a dream.

My guess is that if we haven't seen fuel cells in full-sized vehicles,
then there's a very high probability that we won't see them in models,
either. For the same reasons that they haven't made it into any of
the full-sized vehicles. Pick one of the following reasons:
Efficiency; Safety; Weight; Fuel storage problems; etc.


--Dan


"Lizard Blizzard" <NOSPAM@rsccd.org> wrote in message
news:bm7evb$4ck50$2@hades.csu.net...
dg wrote:

I really know very little about fuel cells, but I am sure somebody here
does. Is there any sort of butane fuel cell or similar that is
available
for a hobbyist to experiment with? The thought of a refillable butane
fuel
cell for my RC car is really neat. All the runtime of a gas engine
powered
vehicle, all the gadgetry to satisfy me electronic interest. Any info
is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
--Dan

For fuel cells in general, try the NG alt.solar.photovoltaic.

If you're interested in a car with electric drive, consider a Toyota
Prius.

I think the Prius and other hybrids are the way to have big car
performance and weight as well as super fuel economy. The increased
complexity becomes more attractive as fuel costs rise.
Click to expand...
Have you noticed the already increased complexioty of today's engine
compartments? Last week I opened a Chev SUV fuse box up and found
several dozen fuses, plus relays plugged in. There are a whole lotta
wires under the hood.

One of the guys at work wants me to buy his 2002 Prius, so he can then
buy the 2004, which is bigger and gets better mileage. A few days ago
I saw a piece on TV about the cars going to better gas mileage. One
guy from GM says they will use a system that shuts off half the
cylinders, so cruising will only use 4 of 8 cylinders. They also
talked about fuel cells. Seems that one problem is how to store and
distribute hydrogen fuel.

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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 02:02:45 -0700, Watson A. Name - "Watt Sun" wrote:

One guy from GM
says they will use a system that shuts off half the cylinders, so cruising
will only use 4 of 8 cylinders.
Click to expand...
They've already had one go at it. Cadillac tried it years ago. It was so
fault prone that most owners opted to have it disabled.

Maybe it'll work better with modern technology.

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In article <pan.2003.10.14.18.16.27.769872@cerebrumconfus.it>,
excretatauris@cerebrumconfus.it mentioned...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 02:02:45 -0700, Watson A. Name - "Watt Sun" wrote:

One guy from GM
says they will use a system that shuts off half the cylinders, so cruising
will only use 4 of 8 cylinders.

They've already had one go at it. Cadillac tried it years ago. It was so
fault prone that most owners opted to have it disabled.

Maybe it'll work better with modern technology.
Click to expand...
I think Corvettes had an ignition key position that did something like
that. But according to the reporter, she couldn't tell when it had
taken place, other than a LED changing color at that time.

Also another gas saver that may be used is stopping the engine when
the car is standing still. As soon as the light turns green, it
starts up again. Of course, the hybrids already so something like
this. Except the engine may quit running while the car's moving.
Hey, it's running on batteries!

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###Got a Question about ELECTRONICS? Check HERE First:###
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Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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