Sad, but how could anyone be so stupid?

[Sylvia Else]

"A 23-year-old man has become the first casualty of Cyclone Yasi after
he suffocated from using a generator inside a closed room as the storm
cut power supplies, Premier Anna Bligh said."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/queensland-cyclone-yasi/story-e6freuy9-1225999829642

"The coroner wanted me to make people understand that if you are using a
generator for power, doing it in a closed room without any ventilation
means you are at risk from asphyxiation from diesel fumes."

Diesel fumes? Must be a big generator.

Sylvia.

 

[John G]

Sylvia Else formulated on Friday :

"A 23-year-old man has become the first casualty of Cyclone Yasi after he
suffocated from using a generator inside a closed room as the storm cut power
supplies, Premier Anna Bligh said."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/queensland-cyclone-yasi/story-e6freuy9-1225999829642

"The coroner wanted me to make people understand that if you are using a
generator for power, doing it in a closed room without any ventilation means
you are at risk from asphyxiation from diesel fumes."

Diesel fumes? Must be a big generator.

Sylvia.

The fact is CARBON MONOXIDE from even the smallest IC engine.

Don't people watch suicides on Mid Somer Murders etc?

--
John G

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 02/04/11 19:39, John G wrote:

Sylvia Else formulated on Friday :
Diesel fumes? Must be a big generator.
The fact is CARBON MONOXIDE from even the smallest IC engine.

People assume they'll smell it and be able to turn it off before it gets them,
but CO is an odorless poison, and once you've inhaled enough, breathing fresh
air doesn't make you recover - it takes weeks. The poisoned haemoglobin cannot
carry oxygen, but the blood cells don't die. It takes 2-4 weeks to make a full
complement of new red blood cells.

 

[kreed]

On Feb 4, 4:04 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:

"A 23-year-old man has become the first casualty of Cyclone Yasi after
he suffocated from using a generator inside a closed room as the storm
cut power supplies, Premier Anna Bligh said."

Strange Sylvia, I heard that this morning, and thought the same,
Dickhead of the year.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/queensland-cyclone-yasi/story-e...

"The coroner wanted me to make people understand that if you are using a
generator for power, doing it in a closed room without any ventilation
means you are at risk from asphyxiation from diesel fumes."

Diesel fumes? Must be a big generator.

Sylvia.

 

[regn.pickford]

George Orwell wrote:

Sylvia Else wrote:
"A 23-year-old man has become the first casualty of Cyclone Yasi
after he suffocated from using a generator inside a closed room as
the storm cut power supplies, Premier Anna Bligh said."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/queensland-cyclone-yasi/story-e6freuy9-1225999829642

"The coroner wanted me to make people understand that if you are
using a generator for power, doing it in a closed room without any
ventilation means you are at risk from asphyxiation from diesel
fumes."
Diesel fumes? Must be a big generator.

I've got a 5 hp diesel air compressor. The motor is
abt the same size as a lawn mower engine.

Sylvia.

Yeah, so sad for the Liberals/ National party will have one less vote
next elections.

 

[George Orwell]

Sylvia Else wrote:

"A 23-year-old man has become the first casualty of Cyclone Yasi after
he suffocated from using a generator inside a closed room as the storm
cut power supplies, Premier Anna Bligh said."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/queensland-cyclone-yasi/story-e6freuy9-1225999829642

"The coroner wanted me to make people understand that if you are
using a generator for power, doing it in a closed room without any
ventilation means you are at risk from asphyxiation from diesel
fumes."
Diesel fumes? Must be a big generator.

Sylvia.

Yeah, so sad for the Liberals/ National party will have one less vote next elections.

 

[John Tserkezis]

Clifford Heath wrote:

People assume they'll smell it and be able to turn it off before it gets them,
but CO is an odorless poison, and once you've inhaled enough, breathing fresh
air doesn't make you recover - it takes weeks. The poisoned haemoglobin cannot
carry oxygen, but the blood cells don't die. It takes 2-4 weeks to make a full
complement of new red blood cells.

Nice in theory, but this situation and above theory doesn't work in
practice.
This guy either had a faulty sense of smell and was deaf and was
stupid, or he smelt the exhaust and heard the racket and ignored both.

Generators are relatively "dirty" and release a smellier combination of
gasses, so not only will you get carbon monoxide, you'll get a whole
variety of gasses and smoke in the mix too.
And far as the noise goes, with the smaller ones you're looking at
50-60dB, you simply can't be in the same room as these little things and
just "not notice".

Cars are the "cleanest" of the lot and you can STILL smell them. Rotten
eggs anyone?
If it's diluted enough, you might not smell it, because the CO will
still have an effect even if it is diluted enough not to smell the sulphur.

But we're not talking about a car, nor are we talking about holes in
the floorboards combined with faulty exhaust pipes creating the leaking
CO. We're talking about a frigging noisy, smelly, smoky generator
positioned INDOORS.

If that ain't a clue, then he obviously didn't have one.
--
Modem: What landscapers do to dem lawns.

 

[Phil Allison]

"regn.pickford" .

I've got a 5 hp diesel air compressor. The motor is
abt the same size as a lawn mower engine.

** Might have been something like this combined 240 volt AC and 160 amp
welding generator.

http://www.generatorsearch.com.au/general-generators/details/1-generators/4-hyundai-estart-3kw-open-welder-generator.html

84 dB SPL at 7 metres ain't exactly "quiet" - be very noisy indeed inside a
room.



...... Phil

 

[terryc]

Sylvia Else wrote:

"A 23-year-old man has become the first casualty of Cyclone Yasi after
he suffocated from using a generator inside a closed room as the storm
cut power supplies, Premier Anna Bligh said."

It is a regular occurence OS.

 

[no one]

yeah , but , ya NOT breathing carbon monoxide in is pure form which is
oudorless....

IF YA BREATHING IT FROM A I.C ENGINE , WITH ALL THE CHEMICALS IN IT THATS
WHY IT STINKS... I MEAN , WHO CAN BE IN A SHED WITH A IC ENGINE RUNNING
???? YOU GOTTA BE NUTS BREATHING THAT IN FOR SO LONG....
PUT YA NOSE NEXT TO A EXHAUST PIPE AND TELL ME HOW LONG YOU CAN BREATH THAT
IN FOR ??????


"Clifford Heath" <no@spam.please.net> wrote in message
news:4d4bc7dd$0$13389$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

On 02/04/11 19:39, John G wrote:
Sylvia Else formulated on Friday :
Diesel fumes? Must be a big generator.
The fact is CARBON MONOXIDE from even the smallest IC engine.

People assume they'll smell it and be able to turn it off before it gets
them,
but CO is an odorless poison, and once you've inhaled enough, breathing
fresh
air doesn't make you recover - it takes weeks. The poisoned haemoglobin
cannot
carry oxygen, but the blood cells don't die. It takes 2-4 weeks to make a
full
complement of new red blood cells.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2011-02-04, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote:

"A 23-year-old man has become the first casualty of Cyclone Yasi after
he suffocated from using a generator inside a closed room as the storm
cut power supplies, Premier Anna Bligh said."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/queensland-cyclone-yasi/story-e6freuy9-1225999829642

"The coroner wanted me to make people understand that if you are using a
generator for power, doing it in a closed room without any ventilation
means you are at risk from asphyxiation from diesel fumes."

Diesel fumes? Must be a big generator.

probably a two man lift for a 4KW diesel generator
(especially if it's a synchronous generator, and not a lighter
inverter based design)

diesels typically run lean, and so, don't produce much CO.
(that'll change if they run out of O2 though)




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[Sylvia Else]

On 6/02/2011 1:02 AM, terryc wrote:

Sylvia Else wrote:
"A 23-year-old man has become the first casualty of Cyclone Yasi after
he suffocated from using a generator inside a closed room as the storm
cut power supplies, Premier Anna Bligh said."

It is a regular occurence OS.

I have just acquired a generator, and started it up for the first time.
Outside of course. Merely being in its general vicinity has made me feel
a bit queasy from its fumes (admittedly, I'm quite sensitive to such
things). I can't imagine how anyone would want it running inside a
building even if it were thought to be completely harmless.

Sylvia.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2011-02-18, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote:

On 6/02/2011 1:02 AM, terryc wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
"A 23-year-old man has become the first casualty of Cyclone Yasi after
he suffocated from using a generator inside a closed room as the storm
cut power supplies, Premier Anna Bligh said."

It is a regular occurence OS.

I have just acquired a generator, and started it up for the first time.
Outside of course. Merely being in its general vicinity has made me feel
a bit queasy from its fumes (admittedly, I'm quite sensitive to such
things). I can't imagine how anyone would want it running inside a
building even if it were thought to be completely harmless.

I've got one now too the whole neighbourhood's on generator power.
Still, it beats the alternative. It's a big CAT-Power 450KW generator,
100M away and inside it's still audible and quite noisy from across the
road, none of the mains powered clocks keep good time.

I went for a walk and saw a hole with a broken 11KV cable dunno if it's
that one whough.

Jasen (in Christchurch)


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