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Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
Germany did something similar. Twice.
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
Germany did something similar. Twice.
Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it\'s industrial output is about the same as Texas.
Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia\'s stocks of weapons and conscripts.
It\'s strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn\'t achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn\'t paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
Germany did something similar. Twice.
Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it\'s industrial output is about the same as Texas.
Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia\'s stocks of weapons and conscripts.
It\'s strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn\'t achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn\'t paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
Germany did something similar. Twice.
Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it\'s industrial output is about the same as Texas.
Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia\'s stocks of weapons and conscripts.
It\'s strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn\'t achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn\'t paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
Meanwhile, the blow to the image of military might by Russia, is enormous. If Russia didn\'t have nuclear capability, I suspect any number of other countries would be involved in the fighting, and it would already be over.
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On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:08:12 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
Germany did something similar. Twice.
Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it\'s industrial output is about the same as Texas.
Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia\'s stocks of weapons and conscripts.
It\'s strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn\'t achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn\'t paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
Don\'t worry about Putin/Xi faces. Send more missiles to Ukraine/Taiwan.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 1:29:44 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:08:12 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4,
bill....@ieee.org wrote
:
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which
results in
many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list
is commercial aviation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
Germany did something similar. Twice.
Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is
geographically lar
ge, but it\'s industrial output is about the same as Texas.
Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder
to use th
e weapons they supply to chew up Russia\'s stocks of weapons and
conscripts.
It\'s strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn\'t
achieve th
e first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and
persistence isn\'t paying off the way it needs to justify continued
expenditure.
Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why
else wa
s the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were
both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way
for Rus
sia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
Don\'t worry about Putin/Xi faces. Send more missiles to
Ukraine/Taiwan.
Let\'s face it. If China wants to invade Taiwan, they will take
out a few military objectives then land troops and be done with
it.
That\'s what should have happened in Ukraine, but the Russian army
has aged other than gracefully it would seem. I don\'t think the
Chinese military will have that problem. Their weapons are new,
shiny and they are ready to get them dirty. I can\'t say how they
would fare against our military, but I think it is unlikely that
we will be involved directly unless attacked. We probably
wouldn\'t even have ships in the area.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:08:12 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
Germany did something similar. Twice.
Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it\'s industrial output is about the same as Texas.
Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia\'s stocks of weapons and conscripts.
It\'s strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn\'t achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn\'t paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
Meanwhile, the blow to the image of military might by Russia, is enormous. If Russia didn\'t have nuclear capability, I suspect any number of other countries would be involved in the fighting, and it would already be over.
Putin is having some serious medical issues and may want a big victory under his belt before he dies or is deposed.
On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:56:52 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:08:12 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
Germany did something similar. Twice.
Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it\'s industrial output is about the same as Texas.
Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia\'s stocks of weapons and conscripts.
It\'s strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn\'t achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn\'t paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
Meanwhile, the blow to the image of military might by Russia, is enormous. If Russia didn\'t have nuclear capability, I suspect any number of other countries would be involved in the fighting, and it would already be over.
Putin is having some serious medical issues and may want a big victory under his belt before he dies or is deposed.
The same kind as Gnatguy. Senile dementia is a bitch.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:56:52 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:08:12 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:55:04 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most foreign companies are pulling out of Russia, which results in many severe consequences for Russian industries. Top of the list is commercial aviation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOO11tywbM
Germany did something similar. Twice.
Germany was bigger, relatively speaking. Russia is geographically large, but it\'s industrial output is about the same as Texas.
Europe and America seem happy to use Ukranian cannon fodder to use the weapons they supply to chew up Russia\'s stocks of weapons and conscripts.
It\'s strategic imbecility on the Russian side. They didn\'t achieve the first strike success that they clearly hoped for, and persistence isn\'t paying off the way it needs to justify continued expenditure.
Just as with all governments, there is a need to save face. Why else was the US in Vietnam and the rest of SE Asia for so long? Why were both the Soviet Union and the US in Afghanistan so long?
The war would have likely already ended if there had been a way for Russia and Putin to save face and declare a victory.
Meanwhile, the blow to the image of military might by Russia, is enormous. If Russia didn\'t have nuclear capability, I suspect any number of other countries would be involved in the fighting, and it would already be over.
Putin is having some serious medical issues and may want a big victory under his belt before he dies or is deposed.
The same kind as Gnatguy. Senile dementia is a bitch.
Sloman speaks with PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
Wanting a big victory when you haven\'t got the army that can deliver it is understandable, but even somebody as intellectually crippled as Gnatguy should know that it isn\'t going to happen.
See what I mean?
The war in Ukrain is just a US plot to keep the Military
Industrial Complex funded
Well, if you go back a few years in history at least *I* do remember the CIA plot to overthrow the Ukrainian government
that succeeded.
The Ukrainian people in Donbas had clearly voted to remain part of Russia, most are Russian speaking
and Shitkensky clearly violated previous peace treaties by bombing places in Donbas,
On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 2:40:57 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
The Ukrainian people in Donbas had clearly voted to remain part of Russia, most are Russian speaking
and Shitkensky clearly violated previous peace treaties by bombing places in Donbas,
The people in Donbas weren\'t voting in a sanctioned and normal inspected election,
and the vote count happened during military surprise attack (by a small number of
nonuniformed \"covert\" Russian troops, mainly assaulting at government buildings).
Russian heavy weapons like the antiaircraft battery that took down Malasia
airlines MH14 were also clearly in place.
Crimea \'voted\' 6 March 2014.
Putin acknowledged the troop presence afterward, in April 2014.
Internet and other communications during and after those events were
dominated by Moscow, and the \'election results\' was just a Russian invention.
On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 2:40:57 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
The Ukrainian people in Donbas had clearly voted to remain part of
Russia, most are Russian speaking and Shitkensky clearly violated
previous peace treaties by bombing places in Donbas,
The people in Donbas weren\'t voting in a sanctioned and normal inspected
election, and the vote count happened during military surprise attack
(by a small number of nonuniformed \"covert\" Russian troops, mainly
assaulting at government buildings). Russian heavy weapons like the
antiaircraft battery that took down Malasia airlines MH14 were also
clearly in place.
Crimea \'voted\' 6 March 2014.
Putin acknowledged the troop presence afterward, in April 2014.
Internet and other communications during and after those events were
dominated by Moscow, and the \'election results\' was just a Russian
invention.
whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 2:40:57 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
The Ukrainian people in Donbas had clearly voted to remain part of
Russia, most are Russian speaking and Shitkensky clearly violated
previous peace treaties by bombing places in Donbas,
The people in Donbas weren\'t voting in a sanctioned and normal inspected
election, and the vote count happened during military surprise attack
(by a small number of nonuniformed \"covert\" Russian troops, mainly
assaulting at government buildings). Russian heavy weapons like the
antiaircraft battery that took down Malasia airlines MH14 were also
clearly in place.
Crimea \'voted\' 6 March 2014.
Putin acknowledged the troop presence afterward, in April 2014.
Internet and other communications during and after those events were
dominated by Moscow, and the \'election results\' was just a Russian
invention.
The Russian election is not recognized by the international community. It
will have no effect on the war and Ukraine\'s determination to take back
their country. Anyone who wants to remain Russian can evacuate back to
Russia.
The major effect will be when Ukrain takes down the Crimea bridge. I\'ve
been thinking of different ways to do it. One way might be to plant
explosives against the piers under water, a la Dambusters. The problem is
how to get them there, and how to to trigger them. But just blowing holes
in the road or twisting the rails won\'t work. The bridge has to be taken
down.