Roomba lawn mower

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Roomba now also has a mop. How long until they come out with a lawn
mower? Yes, I've seen the video of a Roomba finding and splattering dog poop.
Never had a Roomba but I'd'a hoped they had some way of like fencing rooms
off with temporary guide slats.

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Per vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com:
Roomba now also has a mop. How long until they come out with a lawn
mower? Yes, I've seen the video of a Roomba finding and splattering dog poop.
Never had a Roomba but I'd'a hoped they had some way of like fencing rooms
off with temporary guide slats.
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If somebody came out with a "DeerBa" I'd pay at least a grand for it....

i.e. something that cruises the premises looking for body heat and
returns "Home" every so often for a re-charge.

If/when it senses body heat, it goes over to the source and repeatedly
bumps up against it.

Deer seem to get used to a lot of things... but I would hope that being
bumped on the shins by something hard would not be one of them.
--
Pete Cresswell
 
On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 6:01:37 PM UTC-4, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com:
Roomba now also has a mop. How long until they come out with a lawn
mower? Yes, I've seen the video of a Roomba finding and splattering dog poop.
Never had a Roomba but I'd'a hoped they had some way of like fencing rooms
off with temporary guide slats.

If somebody came out with a "DeerBa" I'd pay at least a grand for it....

i.e. something that cruises the premises looking for body heat and
returns "Home" every so often for a re-charge.

If/when it senses body heat, it goes over to the source and repeatedly
bumps up against it.

Deer seem to get used to a lot of things... but I would hope that being
bumped on the shins by something hard would not be one of them.
--
Pete Cresswell
Click to expand...

There is a device that does what you want, only it is movement operated. It sprays water (at as high a pressure as you can feed it) at anything that moves within 20 feet of it.
https://jet.com/product/detail/86c7ca25b20a4721929026254c8d0fc2?jcmp=pla:ggl:gen_home_garden_a2:household_supplies_a2_other:na:pLA_348543420_24223148220_pla-161716964940:na:na:na:2&code=PLA15&ds_c=gen_home_garden_a2&ds_cid=&ds_ag=household_supplies_a2_other&product_id=86c7ca25b20a4721929026254c8d0fc2&product_partition_id=161716964940&gclid=CjwKEAjwnebABRCjpvr13dHL8DsSJABB-ILJCsvwhKGKbay20ZSeZwmLYc01dPB3w2cWJe0I8O9JRhoCcpTw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

One of many options.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
 
On 11/01/2016 06:01 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com:
Roomba now also has a mop. How long until they come out with a lawn
mower? Yes, I've seen the video of a Roomba finding and splattering dog poop.
Never had a Roomba but I'd'a hoped they had some way of like fencing rooms
off with temporary guide slats.

If somebody came out with a "DeerBa" I'd pay at least a grand for it....
Click to expand...

Hello, or maybe a mobile device that permanently dispatches other folks
dogs that take a dump on your nice manicured lawn and the mess left by
their onlooking owners. Sincerely,

--
J. B. Wood e-mail: arl_123234@hotmail.com
 
On 11/01/2016 06:01 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com:
Roomba now also has a mop. How long until they come out with a lawn
mower? Yes, I've seen the video of a Roomba finding and splattering dog poop.
Never had a Roomba but I'd'a hoped they had some way of like fencing rooms
off with temporary guide slats.

If somebody came out with a "DeerBa" I'd pay at least a grand for it....

i.e. something that cruises the premises looking for body heat and
returns "Home" every so often for a re-charge.

If/when it senses body heat, it goes over to the source and repeatedly
bumps up against it.

Deer seem to get used to a lot of things... but I would hope that being
bumped on the shins by something hard would not be one of them.
Click to expand...

What I want for deer control is a robotically-aimed paintball gun. In
the winter the deer are harder to discourage, but frozen paintballs
would probably do it. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
Per pfjw@aol.com:
There is a device that does what you want, only it is movement operated. It sprays water (at as high a pressure as you can feed it) at anything that moves within 20 feet of it.
https://jet.com/product/detail/86c7ca25b20a4721929026254c8d0fc2?jcmp=pla:ggl:gen_home_garden_a2:household_supplies_a2_other:na:pLA_348543420_24223148220_pla-161716964940:na:na:na:2&code=PLA15&ds_c=gen_home_garden_a2&ds_cid=&ds_ag=household_supplies_a2_other&product_id=86c7ca25b20a4721929026254c8d0fc2&product_partition_id=161716964940&gclid=CjwKEAjwnebABRCjpvr13dHL8DsSJABB-ILJCsvwhKGKbay20ZSeZwmLYc01dPB3w2cWJe0I8O9JRhoCcpTw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Believe-it-or-not, I actually have one of those things.

It "Works" in the sense that if something comes into it's sensory view
it really does turn on the water.... and I was using it for awhile to
guard a corridor that deer were coming in through from a valley across
the street.

But they are not practical for large areas - too much hose needed,
although I guess a major trenching project could deal with that.

Instead, I went over to these things:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014FGT8C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

A dozen-or-so placed around the yard. Place looks like a Christmas
tree at night and I make sure none are facing the street or neighbors.

Understood that correlation is not causation, but the number of deer
coming into our yard has dropped to about 2 percent of what it was and
our hostas (deer seem to enjoy eating hostas more than other plants)
have survived every summer since.

Still plenty foxes, raccoons, and 'possums - plus the occasional
neighbor's cat or dog - but virtually no deer.
--
Pete Cresswell
 
Phil Hobbs wrote:
What I want for deer control is a robotically-aimed paintball gun. In
the winter the deer are harder to discourage, but frozen paintballs
would probably do it. ;)
Click to expand...

How about using life sized scarecrow, with a leftover 'Hillary'
Halloween mask? ;-)


--
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)
 
On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 11:50:31 AM UTC-4, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per pfjw@aol.com:
There is a device that does what you want, only it is movement operated. It sprays water (at as high a pressure as you can feed it) at anything that moves within 20 feet of it.
https://jet.com/product/detail/86c7ca25b20a4721929026254c8d0fc2?jcmp=pla:ggl:gen_home_garden_a2:household_supplies_a2_other:na:pLA_348543420_24223148220_pla-161716964940:na:na:na:2&code=PLA15&ds_c=gen_home_garden_a2&ds_cid=&ds_ag=household_supplies_a2_other&product_id=86c7ca25b20a4721929026254c8d0fc2&product_partition_id=161716964940&gclid=CjwKEAjwnebABRCjpvr13dHL8DsSJABB-ILJCsvwhKGKbay20ZSeZwmLYc01dPB3w2cWJe0I8O9JRhoCcpTw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Believe-it-or-not, I actually have one of those things.

It "Works" in the sense that if something comes into it's sensory view
it really does turn on the water.... and I was using it for awhile to
guard a corridor that deer were coming in through from a valley across
the street.

But they are not practical for large areas - too much hose needed,
although I guess a major trenching project could deal with that.

Instead, I went over to these things:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014FGT8C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

A dozen-or-so placed around the yard. Place looks like a Christmas
tree at night and I make sure none are facing the street or neighbors.

Understood that correlation is not causation, but the number of deer
coming into our yard has dropped to about 2 percent of what it was and
our hostas (deer seem to enjoy eating hostas more than other plants)
have survived every summer since.

Still plenty foxes, raccoons, and 'possums - plus the occasional
neighbor's cat or dog - but virtually no deer.
--
Pete Cresswell
Click to expand...

What brand type light sensor did you use ?

estimates on sensor range....movement activation...effective target area ?

I lived above a waterfall in black bear country. The fall thundered n vibrated ground fall winter spring. Naybors had serious bear problems. Not in the falls area despite using a bottle landfill against the buildings north wall.

Added a Wolo motorcycle air horn to my van under hood lip...horn attached to hood. Horn freezes deer elk onto roadside. With the OEM horn operating.
 
On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 6:54:31 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:

What I want for deer control is a robotically-aimed paintball gun. In
the winter the deer are harder to discourage, but frozen paintballs
would probably do it. ;)


How about using life sized scarecrow, with a leftover 'Hillary'
Halloween mask? ;-)


--
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)
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True enough. Deer are rather stupid and might actually be afraid of Hillary.. Whereas a Trump mask would definitely attract them - also any sheep, goats, rabbits and other herd animals in the area. Certainly any such unwilling or unable to think for themselves.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.

Will Rogers

Vote Early and Vote Often.

Alphonse Gabriel Capone
 
pfjw@aol.com wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 6:54:31 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:

What I want for deer control is a robotically-aimed paintball gun. In
the winter the deer are harder to discourage, but frozen paintballs
would probably do it. ;)

How about using life sized scarecrow, with a leftover 'Hillary'
Halloween mask? ;-)

True enough. Deer are rather stupid and might actually be afraid of Hillary. Whereas a Trump mask would definitely attract them - also any sheep, goats, rabbits and other herd animals in the area. Certainly any such unwilling or unable to think for themselves.
Click to expand...

They apparently think well enough not to vote for Hillary.


--
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)
 
On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 9:55:58 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
pfjw@aol.com wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 6:54:31 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:

What I want for deer control is a robotically-aimed paintball gun. In
the winter the deer are harder to discourage, but frozen paintballs
would probably do it. ;)

How about using life sized scarecrow, with a leftover 'Hillary'
Halloween mask? ;-)

True enough. Deer are rather stupid and might actually be afraid of Hillary. Whereas a Trump mask would definitely attract them - also any sheep, goats, rabbits and other herd animals in the area. Certainly any such unwilling or unable to think for themselves.


They apparently think well enough not to vote for Hillary.

Time will tell.
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Most of the time cattle, sheep and even chickens will march right up the ramp into the slaughterhouse without any hesitation at all, even with the full visual of their fellow herd companions being shocked, beheaded or otherwise abused directly in front of them. That is the sort of "think well enough of" that we are discussing.

May you live in interesting times, and may all your wishes come true.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

H.L. Mencken
 
pfjw@aol.com wrote:
On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 9:55:58 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
pfjw@aol.com wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 6:54:31 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:

What I want for deer control is a robotically-aimed paintball gun. In
the winter the deer are harder to discourage, but frozen paintballs
would probably do it. ;)

How about using life sized scarecrow, with a leftover 'Hillary'
Halloween mask? ;-)

True enough. Deer are rather stupid and might actually be afraid of Hillary. Whereas a Trump mask would definitely attract them - also any sheep, goats, rabbits and other herd animals in the area. Certainly any such unwilling or unable to think for themselves.


They apparently think well enough not to vote for Hillary.

Time will tell.

Most of the time cattle, sheep and even chickens will march right up the ramp into the slaughterhouse without any hesitation at all, even with the full visual of their fellow herd companions being shocked, beheaded or otherwise abused directly in front of them. That is the sort of "think well enough of" that we are discussing.
Click to expand...

You do know that Bengazi was an attempt for Hillary and Obama to
recover weapons she illegally sold to our enemies? The same ones who
behead people. That the so called anti trump protests are funded by the
Nazi conspirator, George Soros?

It is the sheep who sell their soul for a free cell phone and
section eight housing.


--
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)
 
On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 6:50:27 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:

You do know that Bengazi was an attempt for Hillary and Obama to
recover weapons she illegally sold to our enemies? The same ones who
behead people. That the so called anti trump protests are funded by the
Nazi conspirator, George Soros?

It is the sheep who sell their soul for a free cell phone and
section eight housing.
Click to expand...

That sounds strangely conspiratorial. And, of course, the problem with popular conspiracy theories is that far too many people have to know about it to keep in even a little bit secret, or even dimly lit.

Point being that "begging the question" fallacies usually start with a statement along the lines of "you do know that....".

Followed by the 'false premises' fallacy: "But everyone knows that....".

Usually there is a sprinkling of "ad hominum" in the mix - such as the word Nazi and so forth.

Sorry. But we here in the US are entirely within a "time will tell" situation. We have not had such a polarized election with two such foul candidates since Grant ran against Seymour in 1868. Grant did not rise to the occasion. One hopes that this is not an historical precedent.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
 
https://mail.aol.com/webmail/getPart?uid=33646633&partId=2&scope=STANDARD&saveAs=Trump.jpg


Just an FYI.
 
pfjw@aol.com wrote:
https://mail.aol.com/webmail/getPart?uid=33646633&partId=2&scope=STANDARD&saveAs=Trump.jpg


Just an FYI.
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You posted a link with your account ID. That's not very smart, and
it isn't accessible by anyone else.


--
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)
 
pfjw@aol.com wrote:
On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 6:50:27 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:

You do know that Bengazi was an attempt for Hillary and Obama to
recover weapons she illegally sold to our enemies? The same ones who
behead people. That the so called anti trump protests are funded by the
Nazi conspirator, George Soros?

It is the sheep who sell their soul for a free cell phone and
section eight housing.

That sounds strangely conspiratorial. And, of course, the problem with popular conspiracy theories is that far too many people have to know about it to keep in even a little bit secret, or even dimly lit.

Point being that "begging the question" fallacies usually start with a statement along the lines of "you do know that....".

Followed by the 'false premises' fallacy: "But everyone knows that....".

Usually there is a sprinkling of "ad hominum" in the mix - such as the word Nazi and so forth.

Sorry. But we here in the US are entirely within a "time will tell" situation. We have not had such a polarized election with two such foul candidates since Grant ran against Seymour in 1868. Grant did not rise to the occasion. One hopes that this is not an historical precedent.
Click to expand...


It was in some of the deleted emails.


--
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)
 
On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 9:36:37 PM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:

You posted a link with your account ID. That's not very smart, and
it isn't accessible by anyone else.

That is the point of DropBox - it allows one to share large and small files without risking a direct connection. My "account ID" is the sharing link. I have used it for years without incident. Nor is there anything in it that is at all actionable or confidential
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Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
 
On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 9:32:08 PM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
pfjw@aol.com wrote:
On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 6:50:27 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:

You do know that Bengazi was an attempt for Hillary and Obama to
recover weapons she illegally sold to our enemies? The same ones who
behead people. That the so called anti trump protests are funded by the
Nazi conspirator, George Soros?

It is the sheep who sell their soul for a free cell phone and
section eight housing.

That sounds strangely conspiratorial. And, of course, the problem with popular conspiracy theories is that far too many people have to know about it to keep in even a little bit secret, or even dimly lit.

Point being that "begging the question" fallacies usually start with a statement along the lines of "you do know that....".

Followed by the 'false premises' fallacy: "But everyone knows that...."..

Usually there is a sprinkling of "ad hominum" in the mix - such as the word Nazi and so forth.

Sorry. But we here in the US are entirely within a "time will tell" situation. We have not had such a polarized election with two such foul candidates since Grant ran against Seymour in 1868. Grant did not rise to the occasion. One hopes that this is not an historical precedent.



It was in some of the deleted emails.

And the independently verifiable links to that information are?
Click to expand...

Thanks in advance!

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
 
pfjw@aol.com wrote:
On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 9:32:08 PM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
pfjw@aol.com wrote:
On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 6:50:27 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:

You do know that Bengazi was an attempt for Hillary and Obama to
recover weapons she illegally sold to our enemies? The same ones who
behead people. That the so called anti trump protests are funded by the
Nazi conspirator, George Soros?

It is the sheep who sell their soul for a free cell phone and
section eight housing.

That sounds strangely conspiratorial. And, of course, the problem with popular conspiracy theories is that far too many people have to know about it to keep in even a little bit secret, or even dimly lit.

Point being that "begging the question" fallacies usually start with a statement along the lines of "you do know that....".

Followed by the 'false premises' fallacy: "But everyone knows that....".

Usually there is a sprinkling of "ad hominum" in the mix - such as the word Nazi and so forth.

Sorry. But we here in the US are entirely within a "time will tell" situation. We have not had such a polarized election with two such foul candidates since Grant ran against Seymour in 1868. Grant did not rise to the occasion. One hopes that this is not an historical precedent.



It was in some of the deleted emails.

And the independently verifiable links to that information are?

Thanks in advance!
Click to expand...

You wouldn't read them, so why bother? Thousands of the emails are
available online.


--
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)
 
pfjw@aol.com wrote:
On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 9:36:37 PM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:


You posted a link with your account ID. That's not very smart, and
it isn't accessible by anyone else.

That is the point of DropBox - it allows one to share large and small files without risking a direct connection. My "account ID" is the sharing link. I have used it for years without incident. Nor is there anything in it that is at all actionable or confidential
Click to expand...


All I got was a file not found error from your link.

Dropbox was originally created for use by members of the Newsgroup
news:rec.crafts.metalworking

It's domain name was later bought, along with the concept for general
use so don't try to sell me on it. Others use it, and I have no trouble
viewing files that are configured properly for sharing. I use 'Google
Drive', for the same purpose.


--
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)
 
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