Risky to buy 27" TV Refurbished? Orion

[lbbs]

We have a liquidation store that sells Orion 27" tvs for a good price, but
it is refurbished, and has only 30 warrenty from the store. TV's don't
have as many moving parts as a vcr, is it likely to break down (if I take
good care of it)? Orion Model stv2763. thanks

 

[Hellraiser]

"lbbs" <none@mfergetel.com> wrote in message
news:1068669759.635476@news.vaxxine.com...

We have a liquidation store that sells Orion 27" tvs for a good price, but
it is refurbished, and has only 30 warrenty from the store. TV's don't
have as many moving parts as a vcr, is it likely to break down (if I take
good care of it)? Orion Model stv2763. thanks

Most modern TVs last for around 8-10 years minimum, so long as it's not too
old I shouldn't worry. I bought a 28" widescreen Sanyo for my Xbox the other
day, 2 years old, 99 ukp (around $140) with a 30 day warranty. Picture is
superb so I'm happy - mind you, my brother is a TV engineer, so....

Hellraiser..........>

 

[David]

Orion is not one of the better quality low end brands to begin with.
Being refurbished is not necessarily a bad thing as long as the repairs were
made properly.

You pay your money, you take your chances. 30 days just is not a very long
warranty at all. Although most tv sets today only have a 90 day labor
warranty and maybe one year on parts. 90 days is really not very long
either.

I would say if it costs 50-60% what the same model would cost new,
maybe go for it.

Orion tv sets in general cost around 10% less than similar slightly better
brand, Sanyo, RCA, GE, Philips, models when factory new.
(notice the slightly in the statement)

David

lbbs <none@mfergetel.com> wrote in message
news:1068669759.635476@news.vaxxine.com...

We have a liquidation store that sells Orion 27" tvs for a good price, but
it is refurbished, and has only 30 warrenty from the store. TV's don't
have as many moving parts as a vcr, is it likely to break down (if I take
good care of it)? Orion Model stv2763. thanks

 

[Jerry G.]

On any used set, you are taking a chance. It is important that the repairs
that were done, were done correctly. As for reliability, as the set gets
older, the reliability goes down. Most sets start to give problems after
about 6 to 8 years old. Some will start to have problems even earlier.
There are many parts that can go wrong in a set, therefore buying a used one
has a risk.

A 30 day warranty is very short. In our area, when getting a set serviced,
normally a 90 day warranty is given. I have no idea about the specifics in
other areas.

--

Greetings,

Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG
=========================================
WebPage http://www.zoom-one.com
Electronics http://www.zoom-one.com/electron.htm
=========================================


"lbbs" <none@mfergetel.com> wrote in message
news:1068669759.635476@news.vaxxine.com...
We have a liquidation store that sells Orion 27" tvs for a good price, but
it is refurbished, and has only 30 warrenty from the store. TV's don't
have as many moving parts as a vcr, is it likely to break down (if I take
good care of it)? Orion Model stv2763. thanks

 

[none]

Why do tvs have shorter warranties then vcr? vrc are have more moving
parts.
What are the chances that my tv will break down in the first year (one in a
100 or more like 1 in 10?)

"Hellraiser" <hellraiser1.nospam@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:boudkj$1inelg$1@ID-166521.news.uni-berlin.de...

"lbbs" <none@mfergetel.com> wrote in message
news:1068669759.635476@news.vaxxine.com...
We have a liquidation store that sells Orion 27" tvs for a good price,
but
it is refurbished, and has only 30 warrenty from the store. TV's
don't
have as many moving parts as a vcr, is it likely to break down (if I
take
good care of it)? Orion Model stv2763. thanks

Most modern TVs last for around 8-10 years minimum, so long as it's not
too
old I shouldn't worry. I bought a 28" widescreen Sanyo for my Xbox the
other
day, 2 years old, 99 ukp (around $140) with a 30 day warranty. Picture is
superb so I'm happy - mind you, my brother is a TV engineer, so....

Hellraiser..........

 

[Technician]

It is a ORION....expect what you pay for.



"Hellraiser" <hellraiser1.nospam@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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"lbbs" <none@mfergetel.com> wrote in message
news:1068669759.635476@news.vaxxine.com...
We have a liquidation store that sells Orion 27" tvs for a good price,
but
it is refurbished, and has only 30 warrenty from the store. TV's
don't
have as many moving parts as a vcr, is it likely to break down (if I
take
good care of it)? Orion Model stv2763. thanks

Most modern TVs last for around 8-10 years minimum, so long as it's not
too
old I shouldn't worry. I bought a 28" widescreen Sanyo for my Xbox the
other
day, 2 years old, 99 ukp (around $140) with a 30 day warranty. Picture is
superb so I'm happy - mind you, my brother is a TV engineer, so....

Hellraiser..........

 

[Technician]

That is true...but I warranty my work, not the entire operation of the
set.....just like a Doctor.


"Jerry G." <jerryg50@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bouh0f$jco$1@news.eusc.inter.net...

On any used set, you are taking a chance. It is important that the
repairs
that were done, were done correctly. As for reliability, as the set gets
older, the reliability goes down. Most sets start to give problems after
about 6 to 8 years old. Some will start to have problems even earlier.
There are many parts that can go wrong in a set, therefore buying a used
one
has a risk.

A 30 day warranty is very short. In our area, when getting a set
serviced,
normally a 90 day warranty is given. I have no idea about the specifics in
other areas.

--

Greetings,

Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG
=========================================
WebPage http://www.zoom-one.com
Electronics http://www.zoom-one.com/electron.htm
=========================================


"lbbs" <none@mfergetel.com> wrote in message
news:1068669759.635476@news.vaxxine.com...
We have a liquidation store that sells Orion 27" tvs for a good price, but
it is refurbished, and has only 30 warrenty from the store. TV's don't
have as many moving parts as a vcr, is it likely to break down (if I take
good care of it)? Orion Model stv2763. thanks

 

[H. R. Bob Hofmann]

"David" <dkuhajda@locl.net.spam> wrote in message news:<3fb2f605@news.greennet.net>...

Orion is not one of the better quality low end brands to begin with.
Being refurbished is not necessarily a bad thing as long as the repairs were
made properly.

You pay your money, you take your chances. 30 days just is not a very long
warranty at all. Although most tv sets today only have a 90 day labor
warranty and maybe one year on parts. 90 days is really not very long
either.

I would say if it costs 50-60% what the same model would cost new,
maybe go for it.

Orion tv sets in general cost around 10% less than similar slightly better
brand, Sanyo, RCA, GE, Philips, models when factory new.
(notice the slightly in the statement)

David

lbbs <none@mfergetel.com> wrote in message
news:1068669759.635476@news.vaxxine.com...
We have a liquidation store that sells Orion 27" tvs for a good price, but
it is refurbished, and has only 30 warrenty from the store. TV's don't
have as many moving parts as a vcr, is it likely to break down (if I take
good care of it)? Orion Model stv2763. thanks

RCA and GE hasve a very poor repair history according to Consume's
Reports. They have reliability info for more common sets, I don't
think Orion is in their list.

H. R. Hofmann

 

[BOB URZ]

lbbs wrote:

We have a liquidation store that sells Orion 27" tvs for a good price, but
it is refurbished, and has only 30 warrenty from the store. TV's don't
have as many moving parts as a vcr, is it likely to break down (if I take
good care of it)? Orion Model stv2763. thanks

Does the word POS ring a bell?.
ANd how cheap is cheap?

BOB



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[lbbs]

To clarify, the TV set is manufactured in 2003 and since has been
refurbished by Orion.
They have a truck load of these TV set and I assume they mostly had the same
problem and
has been fix properly. It is about 40% cheaper then an equivalent TV set.
If the TV
does not break down in the first 30 days it most likely will not break down
for quite a few years.
Would that be correct to assume?

"lbbs" <none@mfergetel.com> wrote in message
news:1068669759.635476@news.vaxxine.com...

We have a liquidation store that sells Orion 27" tvs for a good price, but
it is refurbished, and has only 30 warrenty from the store. TV's don't
have as many moving parts as a vcr, is it likely to break down (if I take
good care of it)? Orion Model stv2763. thanks

 

[do_not_spam_me]

"lbbs" <none@mfergetel.com> wrote in message news:<1068728336.917852@news.vaxxine.com>...

We have a liquidation store that sells Orion 27" tvs for a
good price, but it is refurbished, and has only 30 warrenty
from the store. Orion Model stv2763.
To clarify, the TV set is manufactured in 2003 and since has been
refurbished by Orion.
It is about 40% cheaper then an equivalent TV set.

$100 for a TV without a 100% money-back guarantee seems high to me,
especially when it's a brand like Orion, which isn't known for having
the best quality in the first place. I'd rather spend the $160-180
that a brand-new Orion, Emerson, Apex, Funai, or RCA/GE costs from a
store known for customer satisfaction. Better yet, spend about $260
and get a Sanyo from Wal-mart.

 

[do_not_spam_me]

"David" <dkuhajda@locl.net.spam> wrote in message news:<3fb2f605@news.greennet.net>...

Orion is not one of the better quality low end brands to begin with.

What ism one of the better low-end brands? Sanyo?

Orion tv sets in general cost around 10% less than similar slightly
better brand, Sanyo, RCA, GE, Philips, models when factory new.
(notice the slightly in the statement)

Is Sanyo still using good tubes (curved and flat)? I have Sears brand
Sanyos from as early as the 1970s that all still work well, some with
Hitachi tubes, others maybe with COTY tubes (did RCA make all COTYs,
or was only the design shared?). The only problems have been
electrolytics, wire wraps on flybacks, and mechanical tuners (dirt,
holes worn through contacts).

 

[do_not_spam_me]

"none" <NOPAM@cogeco.ca> wrote in message news:<swzsb.17$ge.6517@read2.cgocable.net>...

Why do tvs have shorter warranties then vcr? vrc are have
more moving parts.

Most VCRs have 90-day warranties, just like most TVs. I've gotten
well over 10 years from TVs (all Sanyos, except for a 5" Panasonic and
a 13" Emerson that somebody gave me), but none of my VCRs have (I
didn't feel like buying new heads when Panasonic VCRs are just
$60-70).

What are the chances that my tv will break down in the first year
(one in a 100 or more like 1 in 10?)

According to Consumer Reports, for the worst brands it's slightly
worse than 1 in 50 per year, for the best, 1 in 200.

 

[James Sweet]

RCA and GE hasve a very poor repair history according to Consume's
Reports. They have reliability info for more common sets, I don't
think Orion is in their list.

H. R. Hofmann

Consumer Reports isn't very useful there, RCA and GE (same thing) of certain
models have a *very* common problem with the soldering on the tuner ground
shields, however pretty much any shop you can find will be experienced in
diagnosing and repairing this fault, at which point they're some of the more
reliable low end sets.

 

[James Sweet]

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"lbbs" <none@mfergetel.com> wrote in message
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We have a liquidation store that sells Orion 27" tvs for a
good price, but it is refurbished, and has only 30 warrenty
from the store. Orion Model stv2763.
To clarify, the TV set is manufactured in 2003 and since has been
refurbished by Orion.
It is about 40% cheaper then an equivalent TV set.

$100 for a TV without a 100% money-back guarantee seems high to me,
especially when it's a brand like Orion, which isn't known for having
the best quality in the first place. I'd rather spend the $160-180
that a brand-new Orion, Emerson, Apex, Funai, or RCA/GE costs from a
store known for customer satisfaction. Better yet, spend about $260
and get a Sanyo from Wal-mart.

For $100 you should be able to find a nice used Sony of the same size, much
better set, if you're lucky you might even come across an early 90's XBR, I
have one downstairs, the picture is incredible, 3 Svideo inputs, stereo
sound, built in subwoofer and removeable speakers, blows away any modern set
in the price range.

 

[jakdedert]

I saw a TV 'gadget' show today that quoted (perhaps misquoted?) a CR report
on DVD players. The commentator said that one should look for a unit with a
*composite video* output in order the get the best quality video....WHAT?

jak

"James Sweet" <jamessweet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:wZRsb.142325$9E1.720782@attbi_s52...

RCA and GE hasve a very poor repair history according to Consume's
Reports. They have reliability info for more common sets, I don't
think Orion is in their list.

H. R. Hofmann

Consumer Reports isn't very useful there, RCA and GE (same thing) of
certain
models have a *very* common problem with the soldering on the tuner ground
shields, however pretty much any shop you can find will be experienced in
diagnosing and repairing this fault, at which point they're some of the
more
reliable low end sets.

 

[Daniel L. Belton]

On 14-Nov-2003, "jakdedert" <jdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote:

I saw a TV 'gadget' show today that quoted (perhaps misquoted?) a CR
report
on DVD players. The commentator said that one should look for a unit with
a
*composite video* output in order the get the best quality video....WHAT?

jak

Composite video... This is the separate video and audio outputs versus the
RF output which plugs into the antenna input of the TV. Composite video has
several different forms nowdays. Some are the RCA type video out, some use
the S-Video din plug, and then there are some that separate the color and
sync and you run 3 cables from the DVD player to the TV.. Mine has all 3
types of output. RF output on a DVD only unit is rare, since it actually
requires circuits not needed by the DVD.

Composite video is actually labeled Component video on my unit, though...
So maybe the moderator of the show misquoted, or maybe the two are used
interchangeably.

 

[James Sweet]

"Daniel L. Belton" <abuse@spam.gov> wrote in message
news:uVftb.30369$oC5.18528@clmboh1-nws5.columbus.rr.com...

On 14-Nov-2003, "jakdedert" <jdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote:

I saw a TV 'gadget' show today that quoted (perhaps misquoted?) a CR
report
on DVD players. The commentator said that one should look for a unit
with
a
*composite video* output in order the get the best quality
video....WHAT?

jak

Composite video... This is the separate video and audio outputs versus
the
RF output which plugs into the antenna input of the TV. Composite video
has
several different forms nowdays. Some are the RCA type video out, some
use
the S-Video din plug, and then there are some that separate the color and
sync and you run 3 cables from the DVD player to the TV.. Mine has all 3
types of output. RF output on a DVD only unit is rare, since it actually
requires circuits not needed by the DVD.

Composite video is actually labeled Component video on my unit, though...
So maybe the moderator of the show misquoted, or maybe the two are used
interchangeably.

Composite video refers to the single RCA jack, it's chroma and luminance all
stuffed together on one wire. Svideo and Component are just that, they're
separate standards. I'm not aware of any DVD player that even has an RF
jack, much less *lacks* something as basic as composite.

 

[LASERandDVDfan]

To clarify, the TV set is manufactured in 2003 and since has been
refurbished by Orion.
They have a truck load of these TV set and I assume they mostly had the same
problem and
has been fix properly. It is about 40% cheaper then an equivalent TV set.
If the TV
does not break down in the first 30 days it most likely will not break down
for quite a few years.
Would that be correct to assume?

Orion is not a very good set. Very cheap in terms of construction and design.

As for alternatives, pretty much consider only Japanese brands.

Sony, Toshiba, Hitachi, Sharp, JVC, Panasonic, and Sanyo are what I would
recommend. - Reinhart

 

[Royal19960]

in this thead there was a question about why the tv's only have a 30 day labor
warranty. One of the reasons is that to give a longer warranty you have to get
the authorized service centers to agree to do the repair for the price the
manufacture offers. Normally the maker offers less then the normal customer
charge is. If you come to me and say that you are going to warranty the set for
2 years and you will pay me 20% less than I can make on a cash customer and I
get paid right awat as opossed to waiting for 30-45 days for warranty payment I
would have to tell you to find a different service center.