RFID chips - what is not known?

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Bill

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All I ask is why take the risk? Where is the benefit when the risks
are quite unknown. Microchips are being pushed on the public sector
quite quickly. FDA approval of microchips? You have to be insane.
Does this mean that hospitals will be allowed to insert microchips in
people without their knowing? I think it does. Similar to a doctor
stating a specific drug is the most useful.

I only ask why? Beyond the government, how is it beneficial to the
individual? During a time when the government is more than supporting
illegal aliens - why would this be promoted? Just how is it useful?

Should the microchip promote nerve growth leading to the attachment of
nerve cells to the chip itself, what is the risk? You got me, but I
will tell you one thing -- it no longer is that pin stuck in your body
to hold your hip bone in place. Let's get that clear right now -
right up front.

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US hospitals move closer to under the skin ID chips
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=11859

VeriChip, the company that makes radio frequency
identification--RFID--tags for humans, has moved one step closer to
getting its technology into hospitals.

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Side effect supposedly unknown by FDA - that human nerve growth seeks
the electrical current.

Sci/Tech

Communicating with 'thought power'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/193946.stm

States quite simply that nerve cells grow towards the encouraged nerve
growth. It takes approximately 18 months for this to occur.

"The cones are laced with neurotrophic chemicals extracted from the
patient's own knees which encourage nerve growth."

=================================

So, what is another method of encouraging nerve growth? That is
right, electrical current. All over the place ... do a search on
google "nerve growth stimulation electricity"

Damaged Nerves Heal Faster With Electricity
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/04/000410091145.htm

..
..
..

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Text&db=PubMed&uid=7623154&dopt=Abstract
Repeated subconvulsive electrical stimulation of certain areas of the
forebrain
leads to kindling, a progressive and permanent amplification of evoked
epileptiform activity, which is a model for human temporal lobe
epilepsy.

New Plastic Heals Damaged Nerves
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/04/000410084857.htm
"Polymers that can conduct electricity have a beneficial effect on the
nerves," explained Schmidt.

..
..
..

http://www.cureparalysis.org/mission/growth/
"The NINDS Neural Prosthesis Program supports and encourages research
on the development of implantable devices to compensate electronically
for lost sensory and motor functions."

http://www.etgtreatment.com/etg/electro.html
Electro-stimulation developments have led to multi-billion dollar
markets
During the 1940's and 50's research began to show the way in which
electricity affects the heart and it's rhythms. By the 1960's,
physicians were beginning to routinely use special forms of electrical
stimulation, internally and externally, to regulate heartbeats in
patients whose own electrical signals were failing or compromised, and
to "restart" the hearts of patients that may have stopped beating
entirely. Since that time a huge multi-billion dollar market in
cardiac technology has arisen from the advancement of these
treatments.
 
Hospitals don't put anything in you unless you give consent (or it's life or
death and you haven't sign the DNR -- Do Not Resuscitate).
As far as life or death goes...about the only thing they might implant is a
pacemaker. But it'd only be temporary until you were well enough to receive
the permanent one (at which point you'd sign).

A doctor putting anything else in you otherwise without your consent is
malpractice (as if he forgot his Rolex in your stomach cavity).



"Bill" <bfdiii@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:56b3ad00.0408262206.52b0b435@posting.google.com...
All I ask is why take the risk? Where is the benefit when the risks
are quite unknown. Microchips are being pushed on the public sector
quite quickly. FDA approval of microchips? You have to be insane.
Does this mean that hospitals will be allowed to insert microchips in
people without their knowing? I think it does. Similar to a doctor
stating a specific drug is the most useful.

I only ask why? Beyond the government, how is it beneficial to the
individual? During a time when the government is more than supporting
illegal aliens - why would this be promoted? Just how is it useful?

Should the microchip promote nerve growth leading to the attachment of
nerve cells to the chip itself, what is the risk? You got me, but I
will tell you one thing -- it no longer is that pin stuck in your body
to hold your hip bone in place. Let's get that clear right now -
right up front.

================================================================

US hospitals move closer to under the skin ID chips
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=11859

VeriChip, the company that makes radio frequency
identification--RFID--tags for humans, has moved one step closer to
getting its technology into hospitals.

-----------------------------------------

Side effect supposedly unknown by FDA - that human nerve growth seeks
the electrical current.

Sci/Tech

Communicating with 'thought power'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/193946.stm

States quite simply that nerve cells grow towards the encouraged nerve
growth. It takes approximately 18 months for this to occur.

"The cones are laced with neurotrophic chemicals extracted from the
patient's own knees which encourage nerve growth."

=================================

So, what is another method of encouraging nerve growth? That is
right, electrical current. All over the place ... do a search on
google "nerve growth stimulation electricity"

Damaged Nerves Heal Faster With Electricity
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/04/000410091145.htm

.
.
.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Text&db=PubMed&uid=7623154&dopt=Abstract
Repeated subconvulsive electrical stimulation of certain areas of the
forebrain
leads to kindling, a progressive and permanent amplification of evoked
epileptiform activity, which is a model for human temporal lobe
epilepsy.

New Plastic Heals Damaged Nerves
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/04/000410084857.htm
"Polymers that can conduct electricity have a beneficial effect on the
nerves," explained Schmidt.

.
.
.

http://www.cureparalysis.org/mission/growth/
"The NINDS Neural Prosthesis Program supports and encourages research
on the development of implantable devices to compensate electronically
for lost sensory and motor functions."

http://www.etgtreatment.com/etg/electro.html
Electro-stimulation developments have led to multi-billion dollar
markets
During the 1940's and 50's research began to show the way in which
electricity affects the heart and it's rhythms. By the 1960's,
physicians were beginning to routinely use special forms of electrical
stimulation, internally and externally, to regulate heartbeats in
patients whose own electrical signals were failing or compromised, and
to "restart" the hearts of patients that may have stopped beating
entirely. Since that time a huge multi-billion dollar market in
cardiac technology has arisen from the advancement of these
treatments.
 
Hmmm Lets check the Wacko Index (tm) on this one.

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From: bfdiii@hotmail.com (Bill)
Using a Hotmail or Yahoo address? Check.

All I ask is why take the risk? Where is the benefit when the risks
are quite unknown. Microchips are being pushed on the public sector
quite quickly. FDA approval of microchips? You have to be insane.
Does this mean that hospitals will be allowed to insert microchips in
people without their knowing? I think it does. Similar to a doctor
stating a specific drug is the most useful.
Silly conspiracy theory? Check.

I only ask why? Beyond the government, how is it beneficial to the
individual? During a time when the government is more than supporting
illegal aliens - why would this be promoted? Just how is it useful?
Involving the government? check.

Should the microchip promote nerve growth leading to the attachment of
nerve cells to the chip itself, what is the risk? You got me, but I
will tell you one thing -- it no longer is that pin stuck in your body
to hold your hip bone in place. Let's get that clear right now -
right up front.
Misunderstanding of basic science or technology? Check.

================================================================

US hospitals move closer to under the skin ID chips
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=11859

VeriChip, the company that makes radio frequency
identification--RFID--tags for humans, has moved one step closer to
getting its technology into hospitals.

-----------------------------------------

Side effect supposedly unknown by FDA - that human nerve growth seeks
the electrical current.
Silly strawmen assertions? Check.

Ah, well. That's enough.

You really should get together with News2020, who hangs out over in
sci.electronics.design. You haven't seen people following you around
with lasers, have you?

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
 
FDA approval of microchips? You have to be insane.
Does this mean that hospitals will be allowed to insert microchips in
people without their knowing? I think it does. Similar to a doctor
stating a specific drug is the most useful.
FDA-approved or not, hospitals are not allowed to give medical treatments
without the patient's consent, except in certain bona fide emergencies and
certain cases where permission is given by proxy or by court.
 

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