Repairable ...

[Arfa Daily]

How nice was it when stuff was actually made to be repaired ? Someone
brought me a Grundig Concert Boy transistor radio to look at today. Due to
the clever way that the case had been designed, with the top of the back
hooking into the top of the front, the entire thing came apart with just two
screws at the bottom having to be removed. I needed to get the main PCB out.
It was fixed to a plastic sub-chassis that came out with just four easily
accessible screws, leaving the buttons, vol control, tone controls etc
behind. I was a bit concerned about the dial cord and drive for the tuning
gang, but even that had been thought of. Once the two screws securing the
PCB to the sub chassis had been removed - it was otherwise held firmly in
place by plastic mouldings in the sub chassis that it hooked under - the
whole board was able to be lifted away, leaving the entire dial drive
mechanism behind, still fully laced up, on the sub chassis. What a brilliant
piece of design work, and simple to manufacture and assemble originally.

Once I had done the work on it needed to get it going again, it went back
together in about 3 minutes, and the whole thing worked as good as it did
the day it came out of the factory 40 years ago, or whatever it was ...

Gentler times, eh ... ? d

Arfa

 

[petrus bitbyter]

"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> schreef in bericht
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How nice was it when stuff was actually made to be repaired ? Someone
brought me a Grundig Concert Boy transistor radio to look at today. Due to
the clever way that the case had been designed, with the top of the back
hooking into the top of the front, the entire thing came apart with just
two screws at the bottom having to be removed. I needed to get the main
PCB out. It was fixed to a plastic sub-chassis that came out with just
four easily accessible screws, leaving the buttons, vol control, tone
controls etc behind. I was a bit concerned about the dial cord and drive
for the tuning gang, but even that had been thought of. Once the two
screws securing the PCB to the sub chassis had been removed - it was
otherwise held firmly in place by plastic mouldings in the sub chassis
that it hooked under - the whole board was able to be lifted away, leaving
the entire dial drive mechanism behind, still fully laced up, on the sub
chassis. What a brilliant piece of design work, and simple to manufacture
and assemble originally.

Once I had done the work on it needed to get it going again, it went back
together in about 3 minutes, and the whole thing worked as good as it did
the day it came out of the factory 40 years ago, or whatever it was ...

Gentler times, eh ... ? d

Arfa

Grundig was known for designing with keeping maintenance and repair in mind.

petrus bitbyter

 

[Arfa Daily]

"petrus bitbyter" <petrus.bitbyter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> schreef in bericht
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How nice was it when stuff was actually made to be repaired ? Someone
brought me a Grundig Concert Boy transistor radio to look at today. Due
to the clever way that the case had been designed, with the top of the
back hooking into the top of the front, the entire thing came apart with
just two screws at the bottom having to be removed. I needed to get the
main PCB out. It was fixed to a plastic sub-chassis that came out with
just four easily accessible screws, leaving the buttons, vol control,
tone controls etc behind. I was a bit concerned about the dial cord and
drive for the tuning gang, but even that had been thought of. Once the
two screws securing the PCB to the sub chassis had been removed - it was
otherwise held firmly in place by plastic mouldings in the sub chassis
that it hooked under - the whole board was able to be lifted away,
leaving the entire dial drive mechanism behind, still fully laced up, on
the sub chassis. What a brilliant piece of design work, and simple to
manufacture and assemble originally.

Once I had done the work on it needed to get it going again, it went back
together in about 3 minutes, and the whole thing worked as good as it did
the day it came out of the factory 40 years ago, or whatever it was ...

Gentler times, eh ... ? d

Arfa

Grundig was known for designing with keeping maintenance and repair in
mind.

petrus bitbyter

Yes, sadly though, their schematics were very 'Germanic' and not easy to
follow, unlike most others of that time - Philips, whose efforts at an
understandable service manual were the worst in the world - excluded of
course ... !!

Arfa

 

[dave]

On 08/14/2013 04:21 AM, Arfa Daily wrote:

How nice was it when stuff was actually made to be repaired ? Someone
brought me a Grundig Concert Boy transistor radio to look at today. Due
to the clever way that the case had been designed, with the top of the
back hooking into the top of the front, the entire thing came apart with
just two screws at the bottom having to be removed. I needed to get the
main PCB out. It was fixed to a plastic sub-chassis that came out with
just four easily accessible screws, leaving the buttons, vol control,
tone controls etc behind. I was a bit concerned about the dial cord and
drive for the tuning gang, but even that had been thought of. Once the
two screws securing the PCB to the sub chassis had been removed - it was
otherwise held firmly in place by plastic mouldings in the sub chassis
that it hooked under - the whole board was able to be lifted away,
leaving the entire dial drive mechanism behind, still fully laced up, on
the sub chassis. What a brilliant piece of design work, and simple to
manufacture and assemble originally.

Once I had done the work on it needed to get it going again, it went
back together in about 3 minutes, and the whole thing worked as good as
it did the day it came out of the factory 40 years ago, or whatever it
was ...

Gentler times, eh ... ? d

Arfa

New manufacturer, Eton?

 

[N_Cook]

On 14/08/2013 12:21, Arfa Daily wrote:

How nice was it when stuff was actually made to be repaired ? Someone
brought me a Grundig Concert Boy transistor radio to look at today. Due
to the clever way that the case had been designed, with the top of the
back hooking into the top of the front, the entire thing came apart with
just two screws at the bottom having to be removed. I needed to get the
main PCB out. It was fixed to a plastic sub-chassis that came out with
just four easily accessible screws, leaving the buttons, vol control,
tone controls etc behind. I was a bit concerned about the dial cord and
drive for the tuning gang, but even that had been thought of. Once the
two screws securing the PCB to the sub chassis had been removed - it was
otherwise held firmly in place by plastic mouldings in the sub chassis
that it hooked under - the whole board was able to be lifted away,
leaving the entire dial drive mechanism behind, still fully laced up, on
the sub chassis. What a brilliant piece of design work, and simple to
manufacture and assemble originally.

Once I had done the work on it needed to get it going again, it went
back together in about 3 minutes, and the whole thing worked as good as
it did the day it came out of the factory 40 years ago, or whatever it
was ...

Gentler times, eh ... ? d

Arfa

Aside: Seen the trailers on the BBC recently for some world music series
soon?
No one at the Beeb is now familiar with vinyl decks it would seem. The
discs are all rotaing anticlockwise and the arms weirdly offset the
other way. Been like it for some days now without them being pulled

 

[dave]

On 08/14/2013 08:36 AM, N_Cook wrote:

On 14/08/2013 12:21, Arfa Daily wrote:
How nice was it when stuff was actually made to be repaired ? Someone
brought me a Grundig Concert Boy transistor radio to look at today. Due
to the clever way that the case had been designed, with the top of the
back hooking into the top of the front, the entire thing came apart with
just two screws at the bottom having to be removed. I needed to get the
main PCB out. It was fixed to a plastic sub-chassis that came out with
just four easily accessible screws, leaving the buttons, vol control,
tone controls etc behind. I was a bit concerned about the dial cord and
drive for the tuning gang, but even that had been thought of. Once the
two screws securing the PCB to the sub chassis had been removed - it was
otherwise held firmly in place by plastic mouldings in the sub chassis
that it hooked under - the whole board was able to be lifted away,
leaving the entire dial drive mechanism behind, still fully laced up, on
the sub chassis. What a brilliant piece of design work, and simple to
manufacture and assemble originally.

Once I had done the work on it needed to get it going again, it went
back together in about 3 minutes, and the whole thing worked as good as
it did the day it came out of the factory 40 years ago, or whatever it
was ...

Gentler times, eh ... ? d

Arfa

Aside: Seen the trailers on the BBC recently for some world music series
soon?
No one at the Beeb is now familiar with vinyl decks it would seem. The
discs are all rotaing anticlockwise and the arms weirdly offset the
other way. Been like it for some days now without them being pulled

Perhaps shot via a mirror?

 

[Arfa Daily]

"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
news:kug86f$e4f$1@dont-email.me...

On 14/08/2013 12:21, Arfa Daily wrote:
How nice was it when stuff was actually made to be repaired ? Someone
brought me a Grundig Concert Boy transistor radio to look at today. Due
to the clever way that the case had been designed, with the top of the
back hooking into the top of the front, the entire thing came apart with
just two screws at the bottom having to be removed. I needed to get the
main PCB out. It was fixed to a plastic sub-chassis that came out with
just four easily accessible screws, leaving the buttons, vol control,
tone controls etc behind. I was a bit concerned about the dial cord and
drive for the tuning gang, but even that had been thought of. Once the
two screws securing the PCB to the sub chassis had been removed - it was
otherwise held firmly in place by plastic mouldings in the sub chassis
that it hooked under - the whole board was able to be lifted away,
leaving the entire dial drive mechanism behind, still fully laced up, on
the sub chassis. What a brilliant piece of design work, and simple to
manufacture and assemble originally.

Once I had done the work on it needed to get it going again, it went
back together in about 3 minutes, and the whole thing worked as good as
it did the day it came out of the factory 40 years ago, or whatever it
was ...

Gentler times, eh ... ? d

Arfa

Aside: Seen the trailers on the BBC recently for some world music series
soon?
No one at the Beeb is now familiar with vinyl decks it would seem. The
discs are all rotaing anticlockwise and the arms weirdly offset the other
way. Been like it for some days now without them being pulled

No, haven't seen them. I'll look out.

Arfa

 

[N_Cook]

On 15/08/2013 01:14, dave wrote:

On 08/14/2013 08:36 AM, N_Cook wrote:
On 14/08/2013 12:21, Arfa Daily wrote:
How nice was it when stuff was actually made to be repaired ? Someone
brought me a Grundig Concert Boy transistor radio to look at today. Due
to the clever way that the case had been designed, with the top of the
back hooking into the top of the front, the entire thing came apart with
just two screws at the bottom having to be removed. I needed to get the
main PCB out. It was fixed to a plastic sub-chassis that came out with
just four easily accessible screws, leaving the buttons, vol control,
tone controls etc behind. I was a bit concerned about the dial cord and
drive for the tuning gang, but even that had been thought of. Once the
two screws securing the PCB to the sub chassis had been removed - it was
otherwise held firmly in place by plastic mouldings in the sub chassis
that it hooked under - the whole board was able to be lifted away,
leaving the entire dial drive mechanism behind, still fully laced up, on
the sub chassis. What a brilliant piece of design work, and simple to
manufacture and assemble originally.

Once I had done the work on it needed to get it going again, it went
back together in about 3 minutes, and the whole thing worked as good as
it did the day it came out of the factory 40 years ago, or whatever it
was ...

Gentler times, eh ... ? d

Arfa

Aside: Seen the trailers on the BBC recently for some world music series
soon?
No one at the Beeb is now familiar with vinyl decks it would seem. The
discs are all rotaing anticlockwise and the arms weirdly offset the
other way. Been like it for some days now without them being pulled

Perhaps shot via a mirror?

No they are animated computer graphics images, so the graphic artist had
never seen a vinyl deck in operation in all probability

 

[Mike]

In article <kuiclj$e6p$2@dont-email.me>, N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:

Aside: Seen the trailers on the BBC recently for some world music series
soon?
No one at the Beeb is now familiar with vinyl decks it would seem. The
discs are all rotaing anticlockwise and the arms weirdly offset the
other way. Been like it for some days now without them being pulled

Perhaps shot via a mirror?

No they are animated computer graphics images, so the graphic artist had
never seen a vinyl deck in operation in all probability

Also, the little arm to pick up the head-shell is pointing INWARD
to the record, most point OUTWARD. It looks like the arm has been
bent all the way round to face the wrong way, give it a 100' twist
counter-clockwise, spin the record the other way, it would look
better.

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[N_Cook]

On 15/08/2013 18:08, Mike wrote:

In article <kuiclj$e6p$2@dont-email.me>, N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:

Aside: Seen the trailers on the BBC recently for some world music series
soon?
No one at the Beeb is now familiar with vinyl decks it would seem. The
discs are all rotaing anticlockwise and the arms weirdly offset the
other way. Been like it for some days now without them being pulled

Perhaps shot via a mirror?

No they are animated computer graphics images, so the graphic artist had
never seen a vinyl deck in operation in all probability

Also, the little arm to pick up the head-shell is pointing INWARD
to the record, most point OUTWARD. It looks like the arm has been
bent all the way round to face the wrong way, give it a 100' twist
counter-clockwise, spin the record the other way, it would look
better.

I managed to record it accidently on video tape and could replay it.
Yes, the arm angles are all wrong.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour doesn#t seem to have schedules for 29
August when that series starts

I do own an experimental record that plays backwards and also inside to
outside and for good measure 50 rpm if I remember correctly

 

[N_Cook]

Its turned up on u-tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh6J3-GdOHY

 

[Arfa Daily]

"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
news:kuje9v$v8n$1@dont-email.me...

Its turned up on u-tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh6J3-GdOHY

Hmmmm. That is inexcusably poor for the likes of the BBC. You may also
notice that the arm is firmly locked onto its parking stand with the clip
over it, even though it is apparently moving across the record. I can see
the concept of putting the arm into the stand of a world globe, but it would
have worked just as well with it actually the correct way round. The stylus
is also supposed to be down on the record, but the arm lift lever is right
up in the 'lifted' position.

Yes. Definitely piss-poor ...

Arfa

 

[William Sommerwerck]

"Arfa Daily" wrote in message newsrePt.20963$8I3.2354@fx05.am4...

> Yes. Definitely piss-poor ...

I don't think it's a "mistake". It's deliberate, to create an exciting image.

 

[Arfa Daily]

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:kujslr$9j5$1@dont-email.me...

"Arfa Daily" wrote in message newsrePt.20963$8I3.2354@fx05.am4...
Yes. Definitely piss-poor ...

I don't think it's a "mistake". It's deliberate, to create an exciting
image.

Huh ? In what way 'exciting' ? How would it be any less exciting - if that
is indeed what it's intended to be - if the arm was doing all the same
things, but from the correct side ?

I think I agree with Nigel on this one that the graphic artist who did it,
had no concept of how a tone arm is mounted and works in the physical world
....

Arfa
>

 

[N_Cook]

On 16/08/2013 02:19, Arfa Daily wrote:

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:kujslr$9j5$1@dont-email.me...
"Arfa Daily" wrote in message newsrePt.20963$8I3.2354@fx05.am4...
Yes. Definitely piss-poor ...

I don't think it's a "mistake". It's deliberate, to create an exciting
image.

Huh ? In what way 'exciting' ? How would it be any less exciting - if
that is indeed what it's intended to be - if the arm was doing all the
same things, but from the correct side ?

I think I agree with Nigel on this one that the graphic artist who did
it, had no concept of how a tone arm is mounted and works in the
physical world ...

Arfa

ala Durer's rhino drawing

 

[dave]

On 08/15/2013 10:08 AM, Mike wrote:

In article <kuiclj$e6p$2@dont-email.me>, N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:

Aside: Seen the trailers on the BBC recently for some world music series
soon?
No one at the Beeb is now familiar with vinyl decks it would seem. The
discs are all rotaing anticlockwise and the arms weirdly offset the
other way. Been like it for some days now without them being pulled

Perhaps shot via a mirror?

No they are animated computer graphics images, so the graphic artist had
never seen a vinyl deck in operation in all probability

Also, the little arm to pick up the head-shell is pointing INWARD
to the record, most point OUTWARD. It looks like the arm has been
bent all the way round to face the wrong way, give it a 100' twist
counter-clockwise, spin the record the other way, it would look
better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6znfD6EKvjQ

 

[Cydrome Leader]

dave <ricketzz@earthlink.net> wrote:

On 08/14/2013 04:21 AM, Arfa Daily wrote:
How nice was it when stuff was actually made to be repaired ? Someone
brought me a Grundig Concert Boy transistor radio to look at today. Due
to the clever way that the case had been designed, with the top of the
back hooking into the top of the front, the entire thing came apart with
just two screws at the bottom having to be removed. I needed to get the
main PCB out. It was fixed to a plastic sub-chassis that came out with
just four easily accessible screws, leaving the buttons, vol control,
tone controls etc behind. I was a bit concerned about the dial cord and
drive for the tuning gang, but even that had been thought of. Once the
two screws securing the PCB to the sub chassis had been removed - it was
otherwise held firmly in place by plastic mouldings in the sub chassis
that it hooked under - the whole board was able to be lifted away,
leaving the entire dial drive mechanism behind, still fully laced up, on
the sub chassis. What a brilliant piece of design work, and simple to
manufacture and assemble originally.

Once I had done the work on it needed to get it going again, it went
back together in about 3 minutes, and the whole thing worked as good as
it did the day it came out of the factory 40 years ago, or whatever it
was ...

Gentler times, eh ... ? d

Arfa

New manufacturer, Eton?

Real servers are designed for really fast part swapouts, sort of like a
Zenith console television from the 1970s, but with 5000 less cables to
undo.

Of course, you're not going to repair any of the parts inside, but they
all swap out easily with few to no tools. That's as good as it gets there
days, and no special test equipment is required, like with cars.

Motorola two way radios were like this too- almost no tools needed. They
had some really good designers even 20 years ago.

Laptops on the other hands are real hassles to work with, even with a
service guide as they have some many consumable repair parts like screws
and screw covers etc.

 

[N_Cook]

On 15/08/2013 21:39, N_Cook wrote:

Its turned up on u-tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh6J3-GdOHY

Someone at the BBC has now flipped the image , for current trails

 

[Arfa Daily]

"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
news:kvngpg$ll$1@dont-email.me...

On 15/08/2013 21:39, N_Cook wrote:
Its turned up on u-tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh6J3-GdOHY

Someone at the BBC has now flipped the image , for current trails

So come on then. Own up !! Which one of you works for the BBC... ?

Arfa

 

[N_Cook]

On 29/08/2013 16:47, Arfa Daily wrote:

"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
news:kvngpg$ll$1@dont-email.me...
On 15/08/2013 21:39, N_Cook wrote:
Its turned up on u-tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh6J3-GdOHY

Someone at the BBC has now flipped the image , for current trails


So come on then. Own up !! Which one of you works for the BBC... ?


Arfa

I used to work at Kingswood Warren but a long time ago