remote doorbell (buzzer)

S

Simon Roberts

Guest
A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.
 
On 2011-07-10, Simon Roberts <2assume@gmail.com> wrote:
A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.
either it's wrong, or it relies on threshold Vgs on the MOSFET being very close to 9V
also made of unobtanium.


+9V DC
|
BUZZER
|
+-------.
C |
100R |/ |
---+--------+--| TIP31 |
bell \ | |\ 100uF
circuit / - E |
\ 1n4001 ^ | |
/ | | |
---+--------+----+-------+-- 0v DC


TIP31 NPN nedium power transtitor was chosen because
it can handle 1A through the base with no damage
(also cheap and readily available)


--
⚂⚃ 100% natural
 
Simon Roberts wrote:

A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.
After finally tracking down the image, I notice it still has wires, and
no mention of remote access or anything.

Why didn't you give a direct link to the jpg, suitably scaled, rather
than that incomprehensible treatise?

Why not just go ahead and spring for a wireless doorbell? You should be able
to pick one up for a couple of decabucks at the local home handyman store.

Good Luck!
Rich
 
On 2011-07-12, Simon Roberts <2assume@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 11, 5:36 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2011-07-10, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:

A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.

either it's wrong, or it relies on threshold Vgs on the MOSFET being very close to 9V
also made of unobtanium.


Vgs = -2V

http://skory.z-net.hu/alkatresz/IRF9510.pdf
I meant the discontuniued PNP

are you sure that's not an MPM ?

and the base of the bjt draws only the current it needs.
the common collector layout would ensure that, but it also puts the
emitter at 0 to 1V whch wont't switch the mosfet with that circuit

there's something wrong with the drawing. possibly you've got the
MOSFET in the wong place?

--
⚂⚃ 100% natural
 
On Jul 11, 3:13 pm, Rich Grise <ri...@example.net.invalid> wrote:
Simon Roberts wrote:
A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.

After finally tracking down the image, I notice it still has wires, and
no mention of remote access or anything.

Why didn't you give a direct link to the jpg, suitably scaled, rather
than that incomprehensible treatise?

Why not just go ahead and spring for a wireless doorbell? You should be able
to pick one up for a couple of decabucks at the local home handyman store..

Good Luck!
Rich

A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.
hooked up to existing doorbell or dooerbells transformer.

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/proofs/doorbell.jpg?attredirects=0

will take you right there
 
On Jul 10, 10:54 am, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:
A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.
IT works, and has been for at least 1 year. (but nobody comes to my
door)
 
On Jul 10, 10:54 am, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:
A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.
I'm sure the circuit can be redesigned using a npn bjt and n channel
MOSFET (and a more modern bjt) but I used what was available. I think
it's a pretty decent circuit.

Regards,

Simon
 
On Jul 11, 3:13 pm, Rich Grise <ri...@example.net.invalid> wrote:
Simon Roberts wrote:
A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.

After finally tracking down the image, I notice it still has wires, and
no mention of remote access or anything.

Why didn't you give a direct link to the jpg, suitably scaled, rather
than that incomprehensible treatise?

Why not just go ahead and spring for a wireless doorbell? You should be able
to pick one up for a couple of decabucks at the local home handyman store..

Good Luck!
Rich
WHy do anything when it's so convenient to pay someone to do it for
you? I pay a guy to have sex with my girlfriend because I can't be
bothered.

Good Luck,

Simon
 
On Jul 12, 8:07 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2011-07-12, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:





On Jul 11, 5:36 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2011-07-10, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:

A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.

either it's wrong, or it relies on threshold Vgs on the MOSFET being very close to 9V
also made of unobtanium.

Vgs = -2V

http://skory.z-net.hu/alkatresz/IRF9510.pdf

I meant the discontuniued PNP

are you sure that's not an MPM ?

and the base of the bjt draws only the current it needs.

the common collector layout would ensure that, but it also puts the
emitter at 0 to 1V whch wont't switch the mosfet with that circuit

there's something wrong with the drawing.  possibly you've got the
MOSFET in the wong place?

--
⚂⚃ 100% natural- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Maybe, but if Vgs<~-2V the MOSFET is "on". I might have the source
and drain switched (reversed) on the diagram. (Will check and get back
to you). Thanks!
 
On Jul 12, 8:07 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2011-07-12, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:





On Jul 11, 5:36 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2011-07-10, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:

A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.

either it's wrong, or it relies on threshold Vgs on the MOSFET being very close to 9V
also made of unobtanium.

Vgs = -2V

http://skory.z-net.hu/alkatresz/IRF9510.pdf

I meant the discontuniued PNP

are you sure that's not an MPM ?

and the base of the bjt draws only the current it needs.

the common collector layout would ensure that, but it also puts the
emitter at 0 to 1V whch wont't switch the mosfet with that circuit

there's something wrong with the drawing.  possibly you've got the
MOSFET in the wong place?

--
⚂⚃ 100% natural- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
No, there is nothing wrong. I wish I could direct you to the specs of
IRF9510.

Please try:

http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/I/R/F/9/IRF9510.shtml
 
On Jul 12, 9:31 am, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 12, 8:07 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:





On 2011-07-12, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 11, 5:36 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2011-07-10, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:

A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.

either it's wrong, or it relies on threshold Vgs on the MOSFET being very close to 9V
also made of unobtanium.

Vgs = -2V

http://skory.z-net.hu/alkatresz/IRF9510.pdf

I meant the discontuniued PNP

are you sure that's not an MPM ?

and the base of the bjt draws only the current it needs.

the common collector layout would ensure that, but it also puts the
emitter at 0 to 1V whch wont't switch the mosfet with that circuit

there's something wrong with the drawing.  possibly you've got the
MOSFET in the wong place?

--
⚂⚃ 100% natural- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, there is nothing wrong.  I wish I could direct you to the specs of
IRF9510.

Please try:

http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/I/R/F/9/IRF9510.shtml- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
As for the pnp transistor I don't know if it's a bjt or not; can't
find the specs. But most (normal) pnp bjt's will do.
 
On Jul 12, 9:31 am, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 12, 8:07 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:





On 2011-07-12, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 11, 5:36 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2011-07-10, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:

A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.

either it's wrong, or it relies on threshold Vgs on the MOSFET being very close to 9V
also made of unobtanium.

Vgs = -2V

http://skory.z-net.hu/alkatresz/IRF9510.pdf

I meant the discontuniued PNP

are you sure that's not an MPM ?

and the base of the bjt draws only the current it needs.

the common collector layout would ensure that, but it also puts the
emitter at 0 to 1V whch wont't switch the mosfet with that circuit

there's something wrong with the drawing.  possibly you've got the
MOSFET in the wong place?

--
⚂⚃ 100% natural- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, there is nothing wrong.  I wish I could direct you to the specs of
IRF9510.

Please try:

http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/I/R/F/9/IRF9510.shtml- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
May be I should put a resistor in series with existing resitor and
capacitor (that are in parallel) to avoid to much current in the
collector of the small transistor. This may be the only flaw. But I
think most electrolytics have some resistance (not sure how much this
one has)
 
On Jul 12, 10:01 am, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 12, 9:31 am, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:





On Jul 12, 8:07 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2011-07-12, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 11, 5:36 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2011-07-10, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:

A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.

either it's wrong, or it relies on threshold Vgs on the MOSFET being very close to 9V
also made of unobtanium.

Vgs = -2V

http://skory.z-net.hu/alkatresz/IRF9510.pdf

I meant the discontuniued PNP

are you sure that's not an MPM ?

and the base of the bjt draws only the current it needs.

the common collector layout would ensure that, but it also puts the
emitter at 0 to 1V whch wont't switch the mosfet with that circuit

there's something wrong with the drawing.  possibly you've got the
MOSFET in the wong place?

--
⚂⚃ 100% natural- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, there is nothing wrong.  I wish I could direct you to the specs of
IRF9510.

Please try:

http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/I/R/F/9/IRF9510.shtml-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

May be I should put a resistor in series with existing resitor and
capacitor (that are in parallel) to avoid to much current in the
collector of the small transistor.  This may be the only flaw. But I
think most electrolytics have some resistance (not sure how much this
one has)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
It (capacitor) doesn't have enogh series resistance (in the vicinity
of 1 ohm). So you WERE right. Circuit requies ("small") series
resisatance (resistor) in the Emitter. It does work, but I don't know
how much longer. Thanks Again. I will modify and repost.
 
On Jul 12, 8:18 am, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 11, 3:13 pm, Rich Grise <ri...@example.net.invalid> wrote:





Simon Roberts wrote:
A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.

After finally tracking down the image, I notice it still has wires, and
no mention of remote access or anything.

Why didn't you give a direct link to the jpg, suitably scaled, rather
than that incomprehensible treatise?

Why not just go ahead and spring for a wireless doorbell? You should be able
to pick one up for a couple of decabucks at the local home handyman store.

Good Luck!
Rich

WHy do anything when it's so convenient to pay someone to do it for
you?   I pay a guy to have sex with my girlfriend because I can't be
bothered.

Good Luck,

Simon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
"
Maybe I should get a Chinaman to mass produce it, market it, and
distribute to my "local" handyman store so that you could spend $10 or
$20 to buy it.
 
On Jul 12, 10:48 am, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 12, 8:18 am, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Jul 11, 3:13 pm, Rich Grise <ri...@example.net.invalid> wrote:

Simon Roberts wrote:
A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.

After finally tracking down the image, I notice it still has wires, and
no mention of remote access or anything.

Why didn't you give a direct link to the jpg, suitably scaled, rather
than that incomprehensible treatise?

Why not just go ahead and spring for a wireless doorbell? You should be able
to pick one up for a couple of decabucks at the local home handyman store.

Good Luck!
Rich

WHy do anything when it's so convenient to pay someone to do it for
you?   I pay a guy to have sex with my girlfriend because I can't be
bothered.

Good Luck,

Simon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"
Maybe I should get a Chinaman to mass produce it, market it, and
distribute to my "local" handyman store so that you could spend $10 or
$20 to buy it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
And just for the record I have nothing against the Chinese or
capatilism but why do you even bother to visit? For that matter why
do I?
 
On Jul 12, 11:18 am, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 12, 10:48 am, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:





On Jul 12, 8:18 am, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 11, 3:13 pm, Rich Grise <ri...@example.net.invalid> wrote:

Simon Roberts wrote:
A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.

After finally tracking down the image, I notice it still has wires, and
no mention of remote access or anything.

Why didn't you give a direct link to the jpg, suitably scaled, rather
than that incomprehensible treatise?

Why not just go ahead and spring for a wireless doorbell? You should be able
to pick one up for a couple of decabucks at the local home handyman store.

Good Luck!
Rich

WHy do anything when it's so convenient to pay someone to do it for
you?   I pay a guy to have sex with my girlfriend because I can't be
bothered.

Good Luck,

Simon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"
Maybe I should get a Chinaman to mass produce it, market it, and
distribute to my "local" handyman store so that you could spend $10 or
$20 to buy it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And just for the record I have nothing against the Chinese or
capatilism but why do you even bother to visit?  For that matter why
do I?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Don't worry, you're just the straw that broke the camel's back. One
day I will learn that this all a waste of time.
 
Simon Roberts wrote:

On Jul 12, 8:18 am, Simon Roberts <2ass...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 11, 3:13 pm, Rich Grise <ri...@example.net.invalid> wrote:





Simon Roberts wrote:
A doorbell when access to push button wires not practical and placed
where primary doorbell can't be heard.

bottom of page at:

https://sites.google.com/site/thetalkingfly/home

jpg file.

After finally tracking down the image, I notice it still has wires, and
no mention of remote access or anything.

Why didn't you give a direct link to the jpg, suitably scaled, rather
than that incomprehensible treatise?

Why not just go ahead and spring for a wireless doorbell? You should be
able to pick one up for a couple of decabucks at the local home
handyman store.

Good Luck!
Rich

WHy do anything when it's so convenient to pay someone to do it for
you?   I pay a guy to have sex with my girlfriend because I can't be
bothered.

Good Luck,

Simon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
"
Maybe I should get a Chinaman to mass produce it, market it, and
distribute to my "local" handyman store so that you could spend $10 or
$20 to buy it.
Now you're just trolling.

'Bye.
 
Jasen Betts wrote:
are you sure that's not an MPM ?

MPM? 'Mighty Proud Moron'?


--
It's easy to think outside the box, when you have a cutting torch.
 

Welcome to EDABoard.com

Sponsor

Back
Top