Real cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more th

These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner, maybe even drawn and quartered.

'Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180 people have been arrested for starting them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7860635/Australian-bushfire-crisis-183-people-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html

 

bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote in
news:dc011a55-3d61-4a2b-ac40-7f0d2760930c@googlegroups.com:

These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner,
maybe even drawn and quartered.

Public vivisection, Alcohol bath dip, then come on baby lets light
*your* fire!

'Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real
cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180
people have been arrested for starting them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7860635/Australian-bushfir
e-crisis-183-people-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html

Just look at it like this... now that the entire continent has
burned (I know it has not), the risk is less for the next 15 years.

Maybe all y'all motherfuckers could think about getting some ships
to haul polar ice down there in tankers to slowly greenify things.
Haul in some tonnage of sterilized deep elder forest top soils too!

If you think just letting things go again is gonna work, just turn
on the news. There's your sign...

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 8/1/20 5:56 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner, maybe even drawn and quartered.

'Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180 people have been arrested for starting them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7860635/Australian-bushfire-crisis-183-people-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html

This is a false report created by anti-AGW liars. Many of those 180 were
arrested long before the fires, and for things like chucking away a used
cigarette butt, and not for arson.

The vast majority of the fires were started by lightning, often in the
dry thunderstorms arising from existing fires. But the source of
ignition is simply not the point. The entire land is terribly
drought-stricken. The NSW fires ripped through what used to be some of
the wettest greenest areas in the entire country, e.g. in New England
area - but when we drove through there at the start of September, there
was barely a blade of dry grass left in the fields, and everywhere trees
were dying of drought - in Springtime when it's usually lush and wet.

The Gondwanaland rainforests just east of there had not had fire for
millenia, and now are irrevocably *gone* - roots burned out. Even if the
climate returned to 100 years ago, it would take another 100 years to
regrow anything resembling a rainforest.

But sure, tell me about those arsonists. I'm sure they started the drought.

CH

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 8/1/20 6:46 am, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Just look at it like this... now that the entire continent has
burned (I know it has not), the risk is less for the next 15 years.

Unfortunately that's not true. There have been repeat fires as little as
two weeks after a major disaster. Only rarely does the first fire
consume everything, but it causes the remaining vegetation to brown and
dry off, making it more flammable than ever. And if not, the regrowth is
rapid and very vulnerable the following years, if the first fire wasn't
intense enough to kill everything.

Please, if you've never lived in Australia, do try to at least read some
credible information before spouting nonsense.

CH

 

[Jim Jackson]

On 2020-01-07, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner, maybe even drawn and quartered.

'Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180 people have been arrested for starting them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7860635/Australian-bushfire-crisis-183-people-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html

It's the bloody dailymail, itr's not a news paper

Down near the bottom....

"So far 24 people across the state have been charged with starting blazes
in the bush, while a further 159 have been charged or cautioned over less
serious fire offences."

and at

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australia-wildfires-dozens-arrested-starting-fires-a9273446.html

"24 Australians have been arrested in New South Wales for deliberately
igniting fires since November, alongside 53 who failed to obey a total
fire ban and 47 who allegedly threw lit cigarettes or matches."

There are always a few sicko's around, 24, deliberately making things
worse. There are also people who just don't think about what they are
doing, prob. the majority of the rest of those arrested. See the
Independant article

"NSW Police Force Deputy Commissioner Gary Worboys told reporters: "I know
that all of those people aren't [alleged] arsonists in a sense, I know a
lot of them were doing things like using fireworks or lighting fires to
camp or cook food or young children, in fact, that got the benefits of the
Young Offenders Act and quite rightly so."

There's also a few sicko's around that deliberately try to misrepresent
the news. A google search for "people arrested for starting australian
bush fires" doesn't actually find many reputable sites.

 

[Clive Arthur]

On 07/01/2020 18:56, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner, maybe even drawn and quartered.

'Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180 people have been arrested for starting them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/totalshite/asusual

Daily Mail. Really Robert, that's not a credible source, it's a
spiteful rag owned by billionaires and aimed at their servants.

Cheers
--
Clive

 

On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 4:50:35 PM UTC-5, Clifford Heath wrote:

On 8/1/20 5:56 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner, maybe even drawn and quartered.

'Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180 people have been arrested for starting them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7860635/Australian-bushfire-crisis-183-people-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html


This is a false report created by anti-AGW liars. Many of those 180 were
arrested long before the fires, and for things like chucking away a used
cigarette butt, and not for arson.

The vast majority of the fires were started by lightning, often in the
dry thunderstorms arising from existing fires. But the source of
ignition is simply not the point. The entire land is terribly
drought-stricken. The NSW fires ripped through what used to be some of
the wettest greenest areas in the entire country, e.g. in New England
area - but when we drove through there at the start of September, there
was barely a blade of dry grass left in the fields, and everywhere trees
were dying of drought - in Springtime when it's usually lush and wet.

The Gondwanaland rainforests just east of there had not had fire for
millenia, and now are irrevocably *gone* - roots burned out. Even if the
climate returned to 100 years ago, it would take another 100 years to
regrow anything resembling a rainforest.

But sure, tell me about those arsonists. I'm sure they started the drought.

CH

Your claims are not in agreement with the NSW Fire Service:

The two leading causes of fire starting in NSW parks are:

lightning - 38%
arson or suspicious causes -18%

https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/topics/parks-reserves-and-protected-areas/fire/fire-facts

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 8/1/20 10:29 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 4:50:35 PM UTC-5, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 8/1/20 5:56 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner, maybe even drawn and quartered.

'Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180 people have been arrested for starting them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7860635/Australian-bushfire-crisis-183-people-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html


This is a false report created by anti-AGW liars. Many of those 180 were
arrested long before the fires, and for things like chucking away a used
cigarette butt, and not for arson.

The vast majority of the fires were started by lightning, often in the
dry thunderstorms arising from existing fires. But the source of
ignition is simply not the point. The entire land is terribly
drought-stricken. The NSW fires ripped through what used to be some of
the wettest greenest areas in the entire country, e.g. in New England
area - but when we drove through there at the start of September, there
was barely a blade of dry grass left in the fields, and everywhere trees
were dying of drought - in Springtime when it's usually lush and wet.

The Gondwanaland rainforests just east of there had not had fire for
millenia, and now are irrevocably *gone* - roots burned out. Even if the
climate returned to 100 years ago, it would take another 100 years to
regrow anything resembling a rainforest.

But sure, tell me about those arsonists. I'm sure they started the drought.

CH

Your claims are not in agreement with the NSW Fire Service:

The two leading causes of fire starting in NSW parks are:

You're not listening. It doesn't matter how they started.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 10:56:59 -0800 (PST),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner, maybe even drawn and quartered.

'Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180 people have been arrested for starting them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7860635/Australian-bushfire-crisis-183-people-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html

There will always be ignition sources. The real cause of Australia's
and California's huge fires are

1) building houses in harm's way and

2) using modern technology to put out small fires, building fuel load
to make giant fires.

Both Aussie and California natives apparently did controlled burns to
reduce the fuel loads.

So the arsonists are reducing the chances of having even bigger fire
storms.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:47:09 PM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 10:56:59 -0800 (PST),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:


These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner, maybe even drawn and quartered.

'Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180 people have been arrested for starting them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7860635/Australian-bushfire-crisis-183-people-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html

There will always be ignition sources. The real cause of Australia's
and California's huge fires are

1) building houses in harm's way and

Actually, it is having lots of flammable vegetation and a warmer and drier local climate (which is one of the local variations that anthropogenic climate change can deliver).

Putting houses in places that didn't used to have forest and bush fires does lead to them getting burnt out, but it doesn't cause the fires.

2) using modern technology to put out small fires, building fuel load
to make giant fires.

Both Aussie and California natives apparently did controlled burns to
reduce the fuel loads.

Australia does a lot of fuel reduction burns. They did a lot before the current fire season, but clearly not enough.

Australian aborigines certainly used fire to shape the landscape, and indigenous groups are now touting their "cultural burns" as doing a better job than the Australian Rural Fire Service has been able to manage.

They don't have any more experience of the local consequences of anthropogenic climate change than anybody else - they were here before the end of the most recent ice age, but that experiences isn't exactly helpful.

So the arsonists are reducing the chances of having even bigger fire
storms.

That's not the way it works. Doing a fuel reduction burn at what turned out to be the wrong moment has started several bush-fires - one guy wanted to protect his marijuana crop.

Once the weather has put the vegetation into an inflammable state, life gets tricky.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
news:mqca1f11bpeh8iac8up3cel3n65378t7gn@4ax.com:

On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 10:56:59 -0800 (PST),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:


These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner,
maybe even drawn and quartered.

'Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real
cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180
people have been arrested for starting them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7860635/Australian-bushfir
e-crisis-183-people-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html

There will always be ignition sources. The real cause of
Australia's and California's huge fires are

1) building houses in harm's way and

2) using modern technology to put out small fires, building fuel
load to make giant fires.

Both Aussie and California natives apparently did controlled burns
to reduce the fuel loads.

So the arsonists are reducing the chances of having even bigger
fire storms.

Some asshole shit all over me for stating that the fuel load is
reduced. Spouting some lame stupid shit about me not knowing
anything about Australia.

It is about fuel and fire, dipshit. (not you this time johnny).
It is about greenifying hudreds of square miles of land resting on
the fringes of the poulated areas.

Deserts grow. We should be as a people making sure that green
grows and especially around population centers surrounded by desert
or desert like lands and soils.

We need to spread the water... that is gather the polar water and
move it to the hot zones and storing it because right now the deserts
are winning. We should also add quality top soils to those regions
we greenify.

We need to fight the monsters of ocean level rise and fresh water
depletion folks.

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 8/1/20 5:56 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner

"These things" are not the occasional arsonists, but parties unknown,
almost certainly funded by the coal and mining lobbies (Gina Rhinehard
and others) and by the Murdoch media, who love nothing better than a
good catastrophe; all of whom have corrupted our political process to a
grave extent. The parties behind this disinformation campaign are the
ones who deserve to be executed, along with their collaborators.

<https://www.buzzfeed.com/cameronwilson/unverified-false-information-list-australian-bushfires>

CH.

 

[Robert Baer]

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote in
news:dc011a55-3d61-4a2b-ac40-7f0d2760930c@googlegroups.com:


These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner,
maybe even drawn and quartered.

Public vivisection, Alcohol bath dip, then come on baby lets light
*your* fire!

'Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real
cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180
people have been arrested for starting them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7860635/Australian-bushfir
e-crisis-183-people-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html


Just look at it like this... now that the entire continent has
burned (I know it has not), the risk is less for the next 15 years.

Maybe all y'all motherfuckers could think about getting some ships
to haul polar ice down there in tankers to slowly greenify things.
Haul in some tonnage of sterilized deep elder forest top soils too!

If you think just letting things go again is gonna work, just turn
on the news. There's your sign...

STERIALIZED? _No_ nutrients? Not so good for Gurr-owth (am a baer so
i gurrowled).

 

[boB]

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 17:31:16 +1100, Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>
wrote:

On 8/1/20 5:56 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner

"These things" are not the occasional arsonists, but parties unknown,
almost certainly funded by the coal and mining lobbies (Gina Rhinehard
and others) and by the Murdoch media, who love nothing better than a
good catastrophe; all of whom have corrupted our political process to a
grave extent. The parties behind this disinformation campaign are the
ones who deserve to be executed, along with their collaborators.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/cameronwilson/unverified-false-information-list-australian-bushfires

CH.

I have heard that 7 fire fighters were also arrested for starting
fires. A bit ironic.

 

Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in
news:2KeRF.98092$Cb2.34576@fx44.iad:

STERIALIZED? _No_ nutrients? Not so good for Gurr-owth (am a
baer so
i gurrowled).

No, ya dope. Countries do not like letting outside organics in, so
you sterilize it to kill bacteria, to get them to allow it, but if you
think that depletes the soil's nutrients, you need to restart your
entire elementary and jumior high school classes over.

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 8/1/20 6:43 pm, boB wrote:

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 17:31:16 +1100, Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net
wrote:

On 8/1/20 5:56 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner

"These things" are not the occasional arsonists, but parties unknown,
almost certainly funded by the coal and mining lobbies (Gina Rhinehard
and others) and by the Murdoch media, who love nothing better than a
good catastrophe; all of whom have corrupted our political process to a
grave extent. The parties behind this disinformation campaign are the
ones who deserve to be executed, along with their collaborators.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/cameronwilson/unverified-false-information-list-australian-bushfires

CH.


I have heard that 7 fire fighters were also arrested for starting
fires. A bit ironic.

That has been a known phenomenon, but I've heard no mention of it this
time - and I think it would have been very big news. So I suspect you're
referring to earlier (and very different) circumstances.

Fire-fighters often get into it because they like fire. None of them are
enjoying anything about what's happening now - it's bloody terrifying.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 2:43:13 AM UTC-5, boB wrote:

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 17:31:16 +1100, Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net
wrote:

On 8/1/20 5:56 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner

"These things" are not the occasional arsonists, but parties unknown,
almost certainly funded by the coal and mining lobbies (Gina Rhinehard
and others) and by the Murdoch media, who love nothing better than a
good catastrophe; all of whom have corrupted our political process to a
grave extent. The parties behind this disinformation campaign are the
ones who deserve to be executed, along with their collaborators.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/cameronwilson/unverified-false-information-list-australian-bushfires

CH.


I have heard that 7 fire fighters were also arrested for starting
fires. A bit ironic.

Not really. Known firebugs have been caught trying to be hired by fire departments many times. If there aren't enough real fires, they go light their own.

 

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 05:25:30 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
news:mqca1f11bpeh8iac8up3cel3n65378t7gn@4ax.com:

On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 10:56:59 -0800 (PST),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:


These "things" need to be executed in the most public manner,
maybe even drawn and quartered.

'Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real
cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180
people have been arrested for starting them

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7860635/Australian-bushfir
e-crisis-183-people-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html

There will always be ignition sources. The real cause of
Australia's and California's huge fires are

1) building houses in harm's way and

2) using modern technology to put out small fires, building fuel
load to make giant fires.

Both Aussie and California natives apparently did controlled burns
to reduce the fuel loads.

So the arsonists are reducing the chances of having even bigger
fire storms.


Some asshole shit all over me

Did you enjoy it?



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Clive Arthur]

On 07/01/2020 21:35, Clifford Heath wrote:

<snipped>

This is a false report created by anti-AGW liars.
But arson is Anthropogenic Global Warming in its purest form, Shirley?

Cheers
--
Clive

 

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:qsrb1fl5rjfp28rptao685l4ptq707oks5@4ax.com:

Some asshole shit all over me

Did you enjoy it?

So, it is only 'fun' to you to joke about it when it suits you.
Otherwise, you would be spouting off claiming I have some retarded
fetish.

Sorry, Johnny, but that crap is from your part of town. I have been
celibate for years and was never into all that wild stuff.

But I subconciously knew some dorkoflex jackass would make a crack.
Pretty funny that it was you.