RCA TV Help

[Peter]

I have an RCA Model # F20601SE and I just tried to repair it because the
picture would disappear on me. It was the RF area, this much I knew for
sure. But I was trying to resolder the metal plate and I think during the
repair process I broke a surface mount component. I saw the remains of a
component and was hoping that it was just some garbage from before. I had to
remove the top plate with a screw driver and that's when I think I broke it.

I'm not sure what it was that I broke (i.e. resistor, capacitor, diode) but
now I don't get any picture at all. I need to pull it apart again, but I
would like to know if anyone can tell me if they know these TV's and can
help me determine the value and part that is broke.

Thanks in advance

 

[max]

Listen Sofie!Don't try upset people in this newsgroup.If the person ask you
to help him just give help.Otherwise leave it! You think that if you say
that send this TV to the shop will help him.I don't think so!!If the person
ask you for help and explain what he or she did with TV it means he or she
has minor knowledge how to fix it and try to save money in his pocket.
Best regards
Max
"Sofie" <sofie@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:vh44rt4tcpf962@corp.supernews.com...

Peter:
No way to know what the broken off part exactly is or where it should
be....
only you have (or had) those important clues.
No offense intended, but as evidenced by your recent repair technique and
the botched attempt to remove the top cover with a screwdriver (it is good
that you did not use a hammer)..... you really need to take your
television
to a trained and experienced technician at a service shop.
Taking it to a shop AFTER aborted and botched home service attempts will
almost always result in a higher service shop repair bill.
--
Best Regards,
Daniel Sofie
Electronics Supply & Repair
-------------------------------------------


"Peter" <bpeter97@aol.com> wrote in message
news:OPmQa.54867$H17.17783@sccrnsc02...
I have an RCA Model # F20601SE and I just tried to repair it because the
picture would disappear on me. It was the RF area, this much I knew for
sure. But I was trying to resolder the metal plate and I think during
the
repair process I broke a surface mount component. I saw the remains of a
component and was hoping that it was just some garbage from before. I
had
to
remove the top plate with a screw driver and that's when I think I broke
it.

I'm not sure what it was that I broke (i.e. resistor, capacitor, diode)
but
now I don't get any picture at all. I need to pull it apart again, but I
would like to know if anyone can tell me if they know these TV's and can
help me determine the value and part that is broke.

Thanks in advance

 

[max]

Listen David!Don't try upset people in this newsgroup.If the person ask you
to help him just give help.Otherwise leave it! You think that if you say
that send this TV to the shop will help him.I don't think so!!If the person
ask you for help and explain what he or she did with TV it means he or she
has minor knowledge how to fix it and try to save money in his pocket.
Best regards
Max
"David" <dkuhajda@locl.net.spam> wrote in message
news:3f124c8d@news.greennet.net...

Unless you have experience fixing at least 10 or 20 botched repair
attempts
by other people on these, you really need to take the set in now for an
experienced person to work on it. There is little chance that you would
be
able to visually see where the problems are unless you have lots of
experience with these sets.

If you are lucky it will still be under a $120 total repair at this point.
You just might be better served cost wise at this point to replace the set
and give this one away to someone who can do the repair and at least keep
it
out of the landfill.

If you had read the FAQ at www.repairfaq.org you surely would have read
the
proper way to remove the bottom tuner shield and the way to properly do
the
repair. Can we assume you did not even use a temperature controlled
soldering station?

David

Peter <bpeter97@aol.com> wrote in message
news:OPmQa.54867$H17.17783@sccrnsc02...
I have an RCA Model # F20601SE and I just tried to repair it because the
picture would disappear on me. It was the RF area, this much I knew for
sure. But I was trying to resolder the metal plate and I think during
the
repair process I broke a surface mount component. I saw the remains of a
component and was hoping that it was just some garbage from before. I
had
to
remove the top plate with a screw driver and that's when I think I broke
it.

I'm not sure what it was that I broke (i.e. resistor, capacitor, diode)
but
now I don't get any picture at all. I need to pull it apart again, but I
would like to know if anyone can tell me if they know these TV's and can
help me determine the value and part that is broke.

Thanks in advance

 

[bigmike]

"max" <maxg70@cwnet.com> wrote in message
news:vh4k6nkondgff5@corp.supernews.com...

Listen Sofie!Don't try upset people in this newsgroup.If the person ask
you
to help him just give help.Otherwise leave it! You think that if you say
that send this TV to the shop will help him.I don't think so!!If the
person
ask you for help and explain what he or she did with TV it means he or she
has minor knowledge how to fix it and try to save money in his pocket.
Best regards
Max

Hey Max, no offence intended, but Dave and Sofie are doing what they are
suppose to be doing, what any good tech would be doing, and that is trying
to determine whether this person has a clue about what he is doing, so he
does not destroy the set, or himself. If the guy was working on a
transistor radio, that's one thing, but a TV has enough voltage to kill, and
to also become a fire hazard if not repaired properly. Most untrained people
who ask for help on this site, want us to, and appreciate it, when we tell
them upfront whether we think they can handle the job themselves, or whether
it's time to take it to a professional. However, every now and then we will
get someone who sounds like they do not have a clue about what they are
doing, and are hoping we can baby walk them through it remotely, so they can
save a buck. As professionals, we cannot and will not encourage someone like
this to attempt to repair a tv, when it would be putting his life at risk.
At the very least, the person could end up damaging the set to the point of
no repair, which this guy sounds like he is already on his way to doing.
Every tech has their own way of getting the message across, but the message
is the same regarldless: if you don't know what your doing, stay out of the
set, and take it to someone that does.

"Sofie" <sofie@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:vh44rt4tcpf962@corp.supernews.com...
Peter:
No way to know what the broken off part exactly is or where it should
be....
only you have (or had) those important clues.
No offense intended, but as evidenced by your recent repair technique
and
the botched attempt to remove the top cover with a screwdriver (it is
good
that you did not use a hammer)..... you really need to take your
television
to a trained and experienced technician at a service shop.
Taking it to a shop AFTER aborted and botched home service attempts will
almost always result in a higher service shop repair bill.
--
Best Regards,
Daniel Sofie
Electronics Supply & Repair
-------------------------------------------


"Peter" <bpeter97@aol.com> wrote in message
news:OPmQa.54867$H17.17783@sccrnsc02...
I have an RCA Model # F20601SE and I just tried to repair it because
the
picture would disappear on me. It was the RF area, this much I knew
for
sure. But I was trying to resolder the metal plate and I think during
the
repair process I broke a surface mount component. I saw the remains of
a
component and was hoping that it was just some garbage from before. I
had
to
remove the top plate with a screw driver and that's when I think I
broke
it.

I'm not sure what it was that I broke (i.e. resistor, capacitor,
diode)
but
now I don't get any picture at all. I need to pull it apart again, but
I
would like to know if anyone can tell me if they know these TV's and
can
help me determine the value and part that is broke.

Thanks in advance

 

[Sofie]

Hey "dude" Max:
Since you have owned a shop for 13 years and have television repair
experience as your reply postings told us all....... then why are you not
offering specific and helpful suggestions to Peter in his attempt to fix his
RCA television??
As a reminder here, both Peter's RCA and your GE television were
manufactured by Thompson Consumer Electronics and you indicated that you
have serviced RCA for years..... so how about it Max? ..... instead of
blasting me for my past responses to your recent postings, why not
contribute to this newsgroup and HELP Peter with some pertinent and useful
suggestions for the repair of his television.???
--
Best Regards,
Daniel Sofie
Electronics Supply & Repair
-------------------------------------



"max" <maxg70@cwnet.com> wrote in message
news:vh4k6nkondgff5@corp.supernews.com...

Listen Sofie!Don't try upset people in this newsgroup.If the person ask
you
to help him just give help.Otherwise leave it! You think that if you say
that send this TV to the shop will help him.I don't think so!!If the
person
ask you for help and explain what he or she did with TV it means he or she
has minor knowledge how to fix it and try to save money in his pocket.
Best regards
Max
"Sofie" <sofie@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:vh44rt4tcpf962@corp.supernews.com...
Peter:
No way to know what the broken off part exactly is or where it should
be....
only you have (or had) those important clues.
No offense intended, but as evidenced by your recent repair technique
and
the botched attempt to remove the top cover with a screwdriver (it is
good
that you did not use a hammer)..... you really need to take your
television
to a trained and experienced technician at a service shop.
Taking it to a shop AFTER aborted and botched home service attempts will
almost always result in a higher service shop repair bill.
--
Best Regards,
Daniel Sofie
Electronics Supply & Repair
-------------------------------------------


"Peter" <bpeter97@aol.com> wrote in message
news:OPmQa.54867$H17.17783@sccrnsc02...
I have an RCA Model # F20601SE and I just tried to repair it because
the
picture would disappear on me. It was the RF area, this much I knew
for
sure. But I was trying to resolder the metal plate and I think during
the
repair process I broke a surface mount component. I saw the remains of
a
component and was hoping that it was just some garbage from before. I
had
to
remove the top plate with a screw driver and that's when I think I
broke
it.

I'm not sure what it was that I broke (i.e. resistor, capacitor,
diode)
but
now I don't get any picture at all. I need to pull it apart again, but
I
would like to know if anyone can tell me if they know these TV's and
can
help me determine the value and part that is broke.

Thanks in advance

 

[max]

Don't worry Dude I helped him sending the personal e-mail but your help is
helpless.Everybody can say Hey body take your garbage to the shop.Let's guys
fix it for you for $$$$$$
"Sofie" <sofie@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:vh5getkd51gb07@corp.supernews.com...

Hey "dude" Max:
Since you have owned a shop for 13 years and have television repair
experience as your reply postings told us all....... then why are you
not
offering specific and helpful suggestions to Peter in his attempt to fix
his
RCA television??
As a reminder here, both Peter's RCA and your GE television were
manufactured by Thompson Consumer Electronics and you indicated that you
have serviced RCA for years..... so how about it Max? ..... instead of
blasting me for my past responses to your recent postings, why not
contribute to this newsgroup and HELP Peter with some pertinent and useful
suggestions for the repair of his television.???
--
Best Regards,
Daniel Sofie
Electronics Supply & Repair
-------------------------------------



"max" <maxg70@cwnet.com> wrote in message
news:vh4k6nkondgff5@corp.supernews.com...
Listen Sofie!Don't try upset people in this newsgroup.If the person ask
you
to help him just give help.Otherwise leave it! You think that if you say
that send this TV to the shop will help him.I don't think so!!If the
person
ask you for help and explain what he or she did with TV it means he or
she
has minor knowledge how to fix it and try to save money in his pocket.
Best regards
Max
"Sofie" <sofie@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:vh44rt4tcpf962@corp.supernews.com...
Peter:
No way to know what the broken off part exactly is or where it should
be....
only you have (or had) those important clues.
No offense intended, but as evidenced by your recent repair technique
and
the botched attempt to remove the top cover with a screwdriver (it is
good
that you did not use a hammer)..... you really need to take your
television
to a trained and experienced technician at a service shop.
Taking it to a shop AFTER aborted and botched home service attempts
will
almost always result in a higher service shop repair bill.
--
Best Regards,
Daniel Sofie
Electronics Supply & Repair
-------------------------------------------


"Peter" <bpeter97@aol.com> wrote in message
news:OPmQa.54867$H17.17783@sccrnsc02...
I have an RCA Model # F20601SE and I just tried to repair it because
the
picture would disappear on me. It was the RF area, this much I knew
for
sure. But I was trying to resolder the metal plate and I think
during
the
repair process I broke a surface mount component. I saw the remains
of
a
component and was hoping that it was just some garbage from before.
I
had
to
remove the top plate with a screw driver and that's when I think I
broke
it.

I'm not sure what it was that I broke (i.e. resistor, capacitor,
diode)
but
now I don't get any picture at all. I need to pull it apart again,
but
I
would like to know if anyone can tell me if they know these TV's and
can
help me determine the value and part that is broke.

Thanks in advance

 

[max]

By the way I fixed my TV replaced only one chip in Tuner.Thanks for your
"help" dude.
"Sofie" <sofie@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:vh5getkd51gb07@corp.supernews.com...

Hey "dude" Max:
Since you have owned a shop for 13 years and have television repair
experience as your reply postings told us all....... then why are you
not
offering specific and helpful suggestions to Peter in his attempt to fix
his
RCA television??
As a reminder here, both Peter's RCA and your GE television were
manufactured by Thompson Consumer Electronics and you indicated that you
have serviced RCA for years..... so how about it Max? ..... instead of
blasting me for my past responses to your recent postings, why not
contribute to this newsgroup and HELP Peter with some pertinent and useful
suggestions for the repair of his television.???
--
Best Regards,
Daniel Sofie
Electronics Supply & Repair
-------------------------------------



"max" <maxg70@cwnet.com> wrote in message
news:vh4k6nkondgff5@corp.supernews.com...
Listen Sofie!Don't try upset people in this newsgroup.If the person ask
you
to help him just give help.Otherwise leave it! You think that if you say
that send this TV to the shop will help him.I don't think so!!If the
person
ask you for help and explain what he or she did with TV it means he or
she
has minor knowledge how to fix it and try to save money in his pocket.
Best regards
Max
"Sofie" <sofie@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:vh44rt4tcpf962@corp.supernews.com...
Peter:
No way to know what the broken off part exactly is or where it should
be....
only you have (or had) those important clues.
No offense intended, but as evidenced by your recent repair technique
and
the botched attempt to remove the top cover with a screwdriver (it is
good
that you did not use a hammer)..... you really need to take your
television
to a trained and experienced technician at a service shop.
Taking it to a shop AFTER aborted and botched home service attempts
will
almost always result in a higher service shop repair bill.
--
Best Regards,
Daniel Sofie
Electronics Supply & Repair
-------------------------------------------


"Peter" <bpeter97@aol.com> wrote in message
news:OPmQa.54867$H17.17783@sccrnsc02...
I have an RCA Model # F20601SE and I just tried to repair it because
the
picture would disappear on me. It was the RF area, this much I knew
for
sure. But I was trying to resolder the metal plate and I think
during
the
repair process I broke a surface mount component. I saw the remains
of
a
component and was hoping that it was just some garbage from before.
I
had
to
remove the top plate with a screw driver and that's when I think I
broke
it.

I'm not sure what it was that I broke (i.e. resistor, capacitor,
diode)
but
now I don't get any picture at all. I need to pull it apart again,
but
I
would like to know if anyone can tell me if they know these TV's and
can
help me determine the value and part that is broke.

Thanks in advance

 

[Sofie]

I really doubt it
----------------


"max" <maxg70@cwnet.com> wrote in message
news:vh5u0732fede39@corp.supernews.com...

By the way I fixed my TV replaced only one chip in Tuner.Thanks for your
"help" dude.

 

[Sofie]

max:
You are missing the benefit of Newsgroups...... you need to "post" your
repair suggestions for all to see so all of us can learn and share ideas....
why bother coming to any newsgroup if you are not going to share information
with public postings..... private e-mails do not allow others to receive
your help or to see your suggestions.
--
Best Regards,
Daniel Sofie
Electronics Supply & Repair
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


"max" <maxg70@cwnet.com> wrote in message
news:vh5tnef1b1hmb0@corp.supernews.com...

Don't worry Dude I helped him sending the personal e-mail but your help is
helpless.Everybody can say Hey body take your garbage to the shop.Let's
guys
fix it for you for $$$$$$

 

[bigmike]

"Sofie" <sofie@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:vh5veeafq9k5c5@corp.supernews.com...

I really doubt it
----------------

That makes two of us.

"max" <maxg70@cwnet.com> wrote in message
news:vh5u0732fede39@corp.supernews.com...
By the way I fixed my TV replaced only one chip in Tuner.Thanks for your
"help" dude.

 

[Peter]

OK everyone, listen here!

Daniel does have a point, a person without experience can hurt themselves.
Max, I appreciate you backing me up and sticking up for me. but we have to
remember one thing, we are all interested in repairing things and with
everyone yelling at each other, we will fall apart and soon have to do away
with sending a friendly message when we need help.

As far as my mistake, that's what it was. I started to go overboard and
wanted to use a little pressure to assist the removal of the cover. I had
worked on computer monitors for 3yrs and I now work on Cesium Standards so
as far as Daniel thinking I should take it to someone at a TV repair place,
you're very quick at making decisions! So my technical level really does not
need to be insulted here. I made a mistake and I'm aware of it. Most people
will cover up their mistakes and say, hey I have NO idea what happened and I
need everyone in this newsgroup to assist me. I think I was VERY detailed in
my message and very polite. Daniel, I made a simple mistake that can easily
be fixed if I just knew what value the component was. I don't know your
experience, but I'm sure you have made your share of mistakes along with
installing a $20 transistor and having it blow the second you turn the unit
on because you did not look beyond the problem and only assumed.

If anyone wants to insult anyone, it should be the guy that doesn't send an
email to a person looking for help that knows the answer.

To be honest, after cleaning that area with alcohol and not having an air
gun to dry it off, I turned the TV on after a few hours and I got the lower
channels, and now one day later, I get all of them. So I am either wrong and
I didn't break a component (which I doubt) or what I broke may be a filter
capacitor to ground and it's not causing major problems. In any case,
whoever sends me an email I will gladly work with and hopefully resolve this
once and for all because I'm sure I'll need the component no matter what
it's function.

Thanks everyone
Peter


"max" <maxg70@cwnet.com> wrote in message
news:vh4k7eblovk806@corp.supernews.com...

Listen David!Don't try upset people in this newsgroup.If the person ask
you
to help him just give help.Otherwise leave it! You think that if you say
that send this TV to the shop will help him.I don't think so!!If the
person
ask you for help and explain what he or she did with TV it means he or she
has minor knowledge how to fix it and try to save money in his pocket.
Best regards
Max
"David" <dkuhajda@locl.net.spam> wrote in message
news:3f124c8d@news.greennet.net...
Unless you have experience fixing at least 10 or 20 botched repair
attempts
by other people on these, you really need to take the set in now for an
experienced person to work on it. There is little chance that you would
be
able to visually see where the problems are unless you have lots of
experience with these sets.

If you are lucky it will still be under a $120 total repair at this
point.
You just might be better served cost wise at this point to replace the
set
and give this one away to someone who can do the repair and at least
keep
it
out of the landfill.

If you had read the FAQ at www.repairfaq.org you surely would have read
the
proper way to remove the bottom tuner shield and the way to properly do
the
repair. Can we assume you did not even use a temperature controlled
soldering station?

David

Peter <bpeter97@aol.com> wrote in message
news:OPmQa.54867$H17.17783@sccrnsc02...
I have an RCA Model # F20601SE and I just tried to repair it because
the
picture would disappear on me. It was the RF area, this much I knew
for
sure. But I was trying to resolder the metal plate and I think during
the
repair process I broke a surface mount component. I saw the remains of
a
component and was hoping that it was just some garbage from before. I
had
to
remove the top plate with a screw driver and that's when I think I
broke
it.

I'm not sure what it was that I broke (i.e. resistor, capacitor,
diode)
but
now I don't get any picture at all. I need to pull it apart again, but
I
would like to know if anyone can tell me if they know these TV's and
can
help me determine the value and part that is broke.

Thanks in advance

 

[Sofie]

Peter:
I not certain but I think you were responding to David's posting, but I am
sure I am in the same boat as he so I will post my reply.
I appreciate your candor and I can understand your desire to fix this
yourself......
....the desired result of my original advice to you... that you should take
it to a repair shop.... was that you could save money and get the job done
properly and safely.
If the on-board-tuner section of your RCA television is buggered up enough
it can become unrepairable at any reasonable price.... and as you pointed
out..... there are dangerous things going on in a television.
As you undoubtedly have seen in other postings, you would be best advised to
go to the website for this newsgroup at
http://www.repairfaq.org/
There, with some searching, you will find a wealth of troubleshooting tips,
repair procedures, component testing methods and IMPORTANT safety
information that will help you to stay away from dangerous and lethal
electrical shock hazards inside your television.... note that these hazards
can still be present even when the television is turned off and unplugged
from the AC power.... be very careful.
You can also type in your CHASSIS NUMBER and do a google group archival
search .... you should be able to find additional repair information. In
the repairfaq and in google groups there is much detailed repair information
about specific Model numbers and Chassis numbers.
Good luck to you on your repair efforts..... be gentle.... be precise and
again, be very careful...... and if you are still not certain how to
proceed...... you still might consider taking your television to a service
shop for a proper and safe repair.
By the way..... per Alan Harriman's reply post and advice..... if you can
take a close-up picture of the broken part or at least point to where it
came from on the board we might be able to suggest a replacement.
--
Best Regards,
Daniel Sofie
Electronics Supply & Repair
-------------------------------

snipperoo:

"Peter" <bpeter97@aol.com> wrote in message
Daniel does have a point, a person without experience can hurt themselves.
As far as my mistake, that's what it was. I started to go overboard and
wanted to use a little pressure to assist the removal of the cover.
as far as Daniel thinking I should take it to someone at a TV repair
place,
I made a mistake and I'm aware of it.
Daniel, I made a simple mistake that can easily
be fixed if I just knew what value the component was.
To be honest, after cleaning that area with alcohol and not having an air
gun to dry it off, I turned the TV on after a few hours and I got the
lower
channels, and now one day later, I get all of them. So I am either wrong
and
I didn't break a component (which I doubt) or what I broke may be a filter
capacitor to ground and it's not causing major problems.
......because I'm sure I'll need the component no matter what
it's function.
Peter
------------------------------

"max" <maxg70@cwnet.com> wrote in message
Listen David!Don't try upset people in this newsgroup.
If the person ask you to help him just give help.
Otherwise leave it! You think that if you say
that send this TV to the shop will help him.
I don't think so!!If the person ask you for help and
explain what he or she did with TV it means he or she
has minor knowledge how to fix it and try to
save money in his pocket.
Best regards
Max
-------------------------------

"David" <dkuhajda@locl.net.spam> wrote in message
If you had read the FAQ at www.repairfaq.org
you surely would have read the
proper way to remove the bottom tuner
shield and the way to properly do the repair.
Can we assume you did not even use a
temperature controlled soldering station?
David
-----------------

Peter <bpeter97@aol.com> wrote in message
I have an RCA Model # F20601SE and I just tried to repair it because
But I was trying to resolder the
metal plate and I think during the
repair process I broke a surface mount
component. I saw the remains of a
component and was hoping that it was just
some garbage from before. I had to
remove the top plate with a screw driver and
that's when I think I broke it
I'm not sure what it was that I broke (i.e. resistor, capacitor,

 

[Peter]

Well the two things that remain charged in a TV is the CRT which can build
up a charge anyway and the big capacitor (s) in the power supply, but
usually they have a bleeder resistor to discharge them. As long as you are
careful around the CRT and remove the anode with a screw driver (insulated),
you should be all set, correct?

Unless there was something I have been missing when I worked on monitors
for 3yrs.

Thanks for the advice


"Sofie" <sofie@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:vh747ebjgdkfe3@corp.supernews.com...

Peter:
I not certain but I think you were responding to David's posting, but I am
sure I am in the same boat as he so I will post my reply.
I appreciate your candor and I can understand your desire to fix this
yourself......
...the desired result of my original advice to you... that you should take
it to a repair shop.... was that you could save money and get the job done
properly and safely.
If the on-board-tuner section of your RCA television is buggered up enough
it can become unrepairable at any reasonable price.... and as you pointed
out..... there are dangerous things going on in a television.
As you undoubtedly have seen in other postings, you would be best advised
to
go to the website for this newsgroup at
http://www.repairfaq.org/
There, with some searching, you will find a wealth of troubleshooting
tips,
repair procedures, component testing methods and IMPORTANT safety
information that will help you to stay away from dangerous and lethal
electrical shock hazards inside your television.... note that these
hazards
can still be present even when the television is turned off and unplugged
from the AC power.... be very careful.
You can also type in your CHASSIS NUMBER and do a google group archival
search .... you should be able to find additional repair information. In
the repairfaq and in google groups there is much detailed repair
information
about specific Model numbers and Chassis numbers.
Good luck to you on your repair efforts..... be gentle.... be precise and
again, be very careful...... and if you are still not certain how to
proceed...... you still might consider taking your television to a service
shop for a proper and safe repair.
By the way..... per Alan Harriman's reply post and advice..... if you can
take a close-up picture of the broken part or at least point to where it
came from on the board we might be able to suggest a replacement.
--
Best Regards,
Daniel Sofie
Electronics Supply & Repair
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snipperoo:

"Peter" <bpeter97@aol.com> wrote in message
Daniel does have a point, a person without experience can hurt
themselves.
As far as my mistake, that's what it was. I started to go overboard and
wanted to use a little pressure to assist the removal of the cover.
as far as Daniel thinking I should take it to someone at a TV repair
place,
I made a mistake and I'm aware of it.
Daniel, I made a simple mistake that can easily
be fixed if I just knew what value the component was.
To be honest, after cleaning that area with alcohol and not having an
air
gun to dry it off, I turned the TV on after a few hours and I got the
lower
channels, and now one day later, I get all of them. So I am either wrong
and
I didn't break a component (which I doubt) or what I broke may be a
filter
capacitor to ground and it's not causing major problems.
......because I'm sure I'll need the component no matter what
it's function.
Peter
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"max" <maxg70@cwnet.com> wrote in message
Listen David!Don't try upset people in this newsgroup.
If the person ask you to help him just give help.
Otherwise leave it! You think that if you say
that send this TV to the shop will help him.
I don't think so!!If the person ask you for help and
explain what he or she did with TV it means he or she
has minor knowledge how to fix it and try to
save money in his pocket.
Best regards
Max
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"David" <dkuhajda@locl.net.spam> wrote in message
If you had read the FAQ at www.repairfaq.org
you surely would have read the
proper way to remove the bottom tuner
shield and the way to properly do the repair.
Can we assume you did not even use a
temperature controlled soldering station?
David
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Peter <bpeter97@aol.com> wrote in message
I have an RCA Model # F20601SE and I just tried to repair it because
But I was trying to resolder the
metal plate and I think during the
repair process I broke a surface mount
component. I saw the remains of a
component and was hoping that it was just
some garbage from before. I had to
remove the top plate with a screw driver and
that's when I think I broke it
I'm not sure what it was that I broke (i.e. resistor, capacitor,

 

[Asimov]

"Peter" wrote to "All" (15 Jul 03 21:16:26)
--- on the topic of "Re: RCA TV Help"

Always discharge the CRT even if it doesn't need it for a couple of
reasons. The first is simply that the bleeder may be damaged open. And
second, because the CRT aquadag shield can develop a voltage on its own
due to a phenomenon called dielectric absorption. The charge can in
effect build up again even after being discharged because though shorted
for a while not all the energy is released instantly from the glass
atoms forming the dielectric. Atoms deeper in the glass retain energy
longer than atoms near the capacitor plate surface.


Pe> From: "Peter" <bpeter97@aol.com>

Pe> Well the two things that remain charged in a TV is the CRT which can
Pe> build up a charge anyway and the big capacitor (s) in the power supply,
Pe> but usually they have a bleeder resistor to discharge them. As long as
Pe> you are careful around the CRT and remove the anode with a screw driver
Pe> (insulated), you should be all set, correct?

Pe> Unless there was something I have been missing when I worked on
Pe> monitors for 3yrs.

Pe> Thanks for the advice

.... Techs would rather pee on an electric fence for the light show

 

[bigmike]

"Asimov" <warpcastgate@-removethis-bbs.juxtaposition.dynip.com> wrote in
message news:MSGID_1=3a167=2f133.0_3f14c794@fidonet.org...
"Peter" wrote to "All" (15 Jul 03 21:16:26)
--- on the topic of "Re: RCA TV Help"

Always discharge the CRT even if it doesn't need it for a couple of
reasons. The first is simply that the bleeder may be damaged open. And
second, because the CRT aquadag shield can develop a voltage on its own
due to a phenomenon called dielectric absorption. The charge can in
effect build up again even after being discharged because though shorted
for a while not all the energy is released instantly from the glass
atoms forming the dielectric. Atoms deeper in the glass retain energy
longer than atoms near the capacitor plate surface.

Oh yes. I have been jolted more than once by a "discharged" crt.

Pe> From: "Peter" <bpeter97@aol.com>

Pe> Well the two things that remain charged in a TV is the CRT which can
Pe> build up a charge anyway and the big capacitor (s) in the power supply,
Pe> but usually they have a bleeder resistor to discharge them. As long as
Pe> you are careful around the CRT and remove the anode with a screw driver
Pe> (insulated), you should be all set, correct?

Pe> Unless there was something I have been missing when I worked on
Pe> monitors for 3yrs.

Pe> Thanks for the advice

.... Techs would rather pee on an electric fence for the light show